[R129 SL] Shift Knobs WAS: overhead map light assembly issues
Charles Held
r129list@mbcoupes.com
Wed, 4 Jun 2003 18:11:40 -0400
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I have the "fused" knob (1992 500SL) and had to return one of those =
Canadian
wood ones you're talking about. If you figure out how to accomodate the
burlwood one please share with the list!
=20
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com [mailto:r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com] =
On
Behalf Of Cliff Sadler
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 5:53 PM
To: r129list@mbcoupes.com
Subject: RE: [R129 SL] overhead map light assembly issues
Finally!
=20
Thanks. That was the info I was looking for. I'll report back with what
paint or other technique I use. I had a similar mess on the
vanity mirror covers in the sun shades. I used Goo Gone (lots of it, and
carefully) to remove the gick (and the air bag warnings).
They are now a nice Parchment color, and no longer collecting bugs when =
I
drive with the top down.
I believe that Goo Gone will render the map light cover Black when =
finished.
=20
Evenutally, though I'll probably spring for the Burlwood cover. The =
source
that I sent the link for is Performance Products.
=20
Stay tuned on the shifter replacement. Early ones use a fused on knob, =
which
will NOT screw off for replacements. I may
have a source for shift levers. I'm testing one out this weekend, and I =
have
already gotten a real nice knob from Canada.
=20
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com [mailto:r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com]On
Behalf Of Rogers, Charlie
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 3:50 PM
To: 'r129list@mbcoupes.com'
Subject: RE: [R129 SL] overhead map light assembly issues
I had the same problem with my 1991 300SL. I takes about 15 to 20 =
minutes
to remove the cover and I just repainted the existing cover with some =
spray
paint I got at and auto parts store that matched the interior (sort of).
The toughest part about pulling the cover is to remove the rear view =
mirror.
It just pulls down (hard) to disengage from the retainer. Then push the =
2
light holders up (from the side) into the assembly and you can remove =
the
covers and bulbs. There are 2 screws (one in each light well) that =
unscrew
to remove the cover.
Be careful, because there are wiring harnesses that need to be unplugged
from the mirror and the assembly. Once removed, the assembly has
electronics and sensors inside.
For more details on this process, I got a subscription to AlldataDIY for =
the
manual for my car. If you go to their website, www.alldatadiy.co, you =
can
subscribe for 1 years use of their technical data for about $28. It
contains almost all the repair manual data for the car and you can print =
out
what you need.
Charles
=20
=20
=20
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Cynthia Carr [mailto:cindi679@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 1:02 PM
To: r129list@mbcoupes.com
Subject: RE: [R129 SL] overhead map light assembly issues
Mr. Sadler
=20
I guess I did not get your previous messages in reference to the Map =
Light
Assembly. Who was it that you contacted and stated that they were on =
back
order. =20
Also, YES YES I am very interested in joining in with others who may =
like to
order the burlwood cover. I went to the link you provided and I am so
hooked!!!! I also want to change the steering wheel and shift knob. =
Dreams
Dreams I have Dreams..... Hopefully we would get a discount. As I have
stated before my Map light is only working on one side as well as one =
of
the switches has fell off and it has that sticky feel to the outside and =
the
paint seems to be coming off. I can not take my top off with that =
crazy
look. (smile) I want to fix it and I went to the Mercedes Dealer in my =
area
(NC) and the price to replace it was almost 400.00 wow!!! Any Ideas. =
Maybe
a used one or maybe I can get this one fixed and just cover it with the =
Wood
finish which is what I am shooting for. Is there anyone out there who =
can
help??
Cliff Sadler <sadler@comcast.net> wrote:
just talked to them. These are on backorder until the end of June at the
earliest, so don't pull the old one off yet.
I am being told conflicting info on how easy/hard it is to remove this
surround.=20
Any mechanics on this list with an opinion?
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com [mailto:r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com]On
Behalf Of Cliff Sadler
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 9:37 AM
To: r129list@mbcoupes.com
Subject: RE: [R129 SL] overhead map light assembly issues
OK,
if you want to replace it, there is a source for a burlwood cover at
performance products. If you put in 500sl, it will not come up though.
I have asked them for installation instructions on this, to see just how
involved this is going to get.=20
Here's the link for the burlwood version.
http://www.performanceproducts.com/ProductPage.aspx?ProductName=3DOverhea=
d+Map
+Light+Cover+(W129)
<http://www.performanceproducts.com/ProductPage.aspx?ProductName=3DOverhe=
ad+Ma
p+Light+Cover+(W129)&productid=3D109275&producttype=3D20>
&productid=3D109275&producttype=3D20
=20
If we have enough interest, perhaps we can get a quantity discount with =
a
single order.
Cliff=20
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com [mailto:r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com]On
Behalf Of Cynthia Carr
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 8:21 AM
To: r129list@mbcoupes.com
Subject: Re: [R129 SL] overhead map light assembly issues
Hey Guys I have the same problem!!!!! The paint, or outer layer of =
plastic
is horrible!! I also have what seems to be a short. I guess I must =
replace
the whole assembly. I even thought of covering it with some factory =
matched
burrolwood. Any Ideas??? =20
Cliff Sadler <sadler@comcast.net> wrote:=20
The map lights work fine.
I have noticed that the paint, or outer layer of plastic is real soft,=20
I thought that maybe this was due to someone trying to clean it
with a chemical that softened the paint. Others have said that
it is a reaction to exposure to the sun, or heat. Either way, it has to
come off, and get refinished, or replaced.
So, how do I remove this shell, so that I can do something with it?
I have found the 2 screws under the map lamp assemblies, but there
are more holding that unit under the windshield frame that I cannot =
find.
Do I have to remove the rear view mirror as well?
TIA.
91 500SL
> ATTACHMENT part 2 application/ms-tnef name=3Dwinmail.dat=20
Cynthia A. Richardson-Carr
"Through God All Things are Possible"=20
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Do you Yahoo!?
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D361191022-04062003>I have=20
the "fused" knob (1992 500SL) and had to return one of those =
Canadian wood=20
ones you're talking about. If you figure out how to accomodate the =
burlwood one please share with the list!</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D361191022-04062003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
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<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr =
align=3Dleft><FONT=20
face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com [mailto:r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com] <B>On =
Behalf=20
Of </B>Cliff Sadler<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 04, 2003 5:53=20
PM<BR><B>To:</B> r129list@mbcoupes.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [R129 =
SL]=20
overhead map light assembly issues<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D275384321-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Finally!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D275384321-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D275384321-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Thanks. That was the info I was looking for. I'll report back =
with what=20
paint or other technique I use. I had a similar mess on=20
the</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D275384321-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>vanity mirror covers in the sun shades. I used Goo Gone (lots =
of it,=20
and carefully) to remove the gick (and the air bag=20
warnings).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D275384321-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>They=20
are now a nice Parchment color, and no longer collecting bugs when I =
drive=20
with the top down.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D275384321-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I=20
believe that Goo Gone will render the map light cover Black when=20
finished.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D275384321-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D275384321-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Evenutally, though I'll probably spring for the Burlwood =
cover. =20
The source that I sent the link for is Performance=20
Products.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D275384321-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D275384321-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Stay=20
tuned on the shifter replacement. Early ones use a fused on knob, =
which will=20
NOT screw off for replacements. I may</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D275384321-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>have=20
a source for shift levers. I'm testing one out this weekend, and I =
have=20
already gotten a real nice knob from Canada.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D275384321-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D275384321-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com =
[mailto:r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com]<B>On Behalf=20
Of </B>Rogers, Charlie<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 04, 2003 3:50 =
PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'r129list@mbcoupes.com'<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: =
[R129 SL]=20
overhead map light assembly issues<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D140333820-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I=20
had the same problem with my 1991 300SL. I takes about 15 to =
20=20
minutes to remove the cover and I just repainted the existing =
cover=20
with some spray paint I got at and auto parts store that matched the =
interior (sort of).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D140333820-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>The toughest part about pulling the cover is to remove the =
rear view=20
mirror. It just pulls down (hard) to disengage from the =
retainer. Then=20
push the 2 light holders up (from the side) into the assembly and =
you can=20
remove the covers and bulbs. There are 2 screws (one in each =
light=20
well) that unscrew to remove the cover.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D140333820-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Be=20
careful, because there are wiring harnesses that need to be =
unplugged from=20
the mirror and the assembly. Once removed, the assembly has=20
electronics and sensors inside.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D140333820-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>For more details on this process, I got a subscription to =
AlldataDIY=20
for the manual for my car. If you go to their website, <A=20
href=3D"http://www.alldatadiy.co">www.alldatadiy.co</A>, you can =
subscribe for=20
1 years use of their technical data for about $28. It =
contains=20
almost all the repair manual data for the car and you can print out =
what you=20
need.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D140333820-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Charles</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D140333820-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D140333820-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D140333820-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D140333820-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
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size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Cynthia Carr=20
[mailto:cindi679@yahoo.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 04, =
2003 1:02=20
PM<BR><B>To:</B> r129list@mbcoupes.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: =
[R129 SL]=20
overhead map light assembly issues<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Mr. Sadler</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I guess I did not get your previous messages in reference =
to =20
the Map Light Assembly. Who was it that you contacted and =
stated=20
that they were on back order. </DIV>
<DIV>Also, YES YES I am very interested in joining in with others =
who may=20
like to order the burlwood cover. I went to the link you =
provided=20
and I am so hooked!!!! I also want to change the steering =
wheel and=20
shift knob. Dreams Dreams I have Dreams..... Hopefully we =
would get a=20
discount. As I have stated before my Map light is only =
working=20
on one side as well as one of the switches has fell off and it has =
that=20
sticky feel to the outside and the paint seems to be coming=20
off. I can not take my top off with that crazy =
look. =20
(smile) I want to fix it and I went to the Mercedes Dealer in my =
area (NC)=20
and the price to replace it was almost 400.00 wow!!! Any=20
Ideas. Maybe a used one or maybe I can get this one fixed =
and just=20
cover it with the Wood finish which is what I am shooting =
for. Is=20
there anyone out there who can help??<BR><BR><B><I>Cliff Sadler=20
<sadler@comcast.net></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D807044614-02062003>just talked to them. These are on =
backorder=20
until the end of June at the earliest, so don't pull the old one =
off=20
yet.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D807044614-02062003>I am being told conflicting info on =
how=20
easy/hard it is to remove this surround. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D807044614-02062003>Any mechanics on this list with an=20
opinion?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D807044614-02062003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com =
[mailto:r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com]<B>On=20
Behalf Of </B>Cliff Sadler<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 02, =
2003 9:37=20
AM<BR><B>To:</B> r129list@mbcoupes.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: =
[R129=20
SL] overhead map light assembly issues<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D795553414-02062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>OK,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D795553414-02062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>if you want to replace it, there is a source for a =
burlwood=20
cover at performance products. If you put in 500sl, it will =
not come=20
up though.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D795553414-02062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>I have asked them for installation instructions on =
this, to see=20
just how involved this is going to get. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D795553414-02062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Here's the link for the burlwood =
version.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D795553414-02062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.performanceproducts.com/ProductPage.aspx?ProductName=3D=
Overhead+Map+Light+Cover+(W129)&productid=3D109275&producttype=3D=
20">http://www.performanceproducts.com/ProductPage.aspx?ProductName=3DOve=
rhead+Map+Light+Cover+(W129)&productid=3D109275&producttype=3D20<=
/A></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D795553414-02062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D795553414-02062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>If we have enough interest, perhaps we can get a =
quantity=20
discount with a single order.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D795553414-02062003><FONT face=3DArial><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2>Cliff<SPAN=20
=
class=3D807044614-02062003> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV=
>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D795553414-02062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
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<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr =
align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com=20
[mailto:r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com]<B>On Behalf Of =
</B>Cynthia=20
Carr<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 02, 2003 8:21 =
AM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
r129list@mbcoupes.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [R129 SL] =
overhead map=20
light assembly issues<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Hey Guys I have the same problem!!!!! The paint, or =
outer layer=20
of plastic is horrible!! I also have what seems to be =
a=20
short. I guess I must replace the whole =
assembly. I even=20
thought of covering it with some factory matched =
burrolwood. =20
Any Ideas??? <BR><BR><B><I>Cliff Sadler=20
<sadler@comcast.net></I></B> wrote:=20
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: =
#1010ff 2px solid"><BR>The=20
map lights work fine.<BR><BR>I have noticed that the =
paint, or=20
outer layer of plastic is real soft, <BR>I thought that =
maybe this=20
was due to someone trying to clean it<BR>with a chemical =
that=20
softened the paint. Others have said that<BR>it is a =
reaction to=20
exposure to the sun, or heat. Either way, it has =
to<BR>come off,=20
and get refinished, or replaced.<BR><BR>So, how do I =
remove this=20
shell, so that I can do something with it?<BR>I have found =
the 2=20
screws under the map lamp assemblies, but there<BR>are =
more=20
holding that unit under the windshield frame that I cannot =
find.<BR>Do I have to remove the rear view mirror as=20
well?<BR><BR>TIA.<BR><BR>91 500SL<BR><BR>> ATTACHMENT =
part 2=20
application/ms-tnef name=3Dwinmail.dat=20
</BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><BR>Cynthia A.=20
Richardson-Carr<BR><BR>"Through God All Things are Possible" =
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