[R129 SL] Shift Knobs WAS: overhead map light assembly issues
Cliff Sadler
r129list@mbcoupes.com
Wed, 4 Jun 2003 18:15:33 -0400
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-----Original Message-----
From: r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com [mailto:r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com]On
Behalf Of Charles Held
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 5:12 PM
To: r129list@mbcoupes.com
Subject: RE: [R129 SL] Shift Knobs WAS: overhead map light assembly issues
I have the "fused" knob (1992 500SL) and had to return one of those
Canadian wood ones you're talking about. If you figure out how to
accomodate the burlwood one please share with the list!
-----Original Message-----
From: r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com [mailto:r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com]
On Behalf Of Cliff Sadler
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 5:53 PM
To: r129list@mbcoupes.com
Subject: RE: [R129 SL] overhead map light assembly issues
Finally!
Thanks. That was the info I was looking for. I'll report back with what
paint or other technique I use. I had a similar mess on the
vanity mirror covers in the sun shades. I used Goo Gone (lots of it, and
carefully) to remove the gick (and the air bag warnings).
They are now a nice Parchment color, and no longer collecting bugs when
I drive with the top down.
I believe that Goo Gone will render the map light cover Black when
finished.
Evenutally, though I'll probably spring for the Burlwood cover. The
source that I sent the link for is Performance Products.
Stay tuned on the shifter replacement. Early ones use a fused on knob,
which will NOT screw off for replacements. I may
have a source for shift levers. I'm testing one out this weekend, and I
have already gotten a real nice knob from Canada.
-----Original Message-----
From: r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com
[mailto:r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com]On Behalf Of Rogers, Charlie
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 3:50 PM
To: 'r129list@mbcoupes.com'
Subject: RE: [R129 SL] overhead map light assembly issues
I had the same problem with my 1991 300SL. I takes about 15 to 20
minutes to remove the cover and I just repainted the existing cover with
some spray paint I got at and auto parts store that matched the interior
(sort of).
The toughest part about pulling the cover is to remove the rear view
mirror. It just pulls down (hard) to disengage from the retainer. Then push
the 2 light holders up (from the side) into the assembly and you can remove
the covers and bulbs. There are 2 screws (one in each light well) that
unscrew to remove the cover.
Be careful, because there are wiring harnesses that need to be
unplugged from the mirror and the assembly. Once removed, the assembly has
electronics and sensors inside.
For more details on this process, I got a subscription to AlldataDIY
for the manual for my car. If you go to their website, www.alldatadiy.co,
you can subscribe for 1 years use of their technical data for about $28.
It contains almost all the repair manual data for the car and you can print
out what you need.
Charles
-----Original Message-----
From: Cynthia Carr [mailto:cindi679@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 1:02 PM
To: r129list@mbcoupes.com
Subject: RE: [R129 SL] overhead map light assembly issues
Mr. Sadler
I guess I did not get your previous messages in reference to the
Map Light Assembly. Who was it that you contacted and stated that they were
on back order.
Also, YES YES I am very interested in joining in with others who may
like to order the burlwood cover. I went to the link you provided and I am
so hooked!!!! I also want to change the steering wheel and shift knob.
Dreams Dreams I have Dreams..... Hopefully we would get a discount. As I
have stated before my Map light is only working on one side as well as one
of the switches has fell off and it has that sticky feel to the outside and
the paint seems to be coming off. I can not take my top off with that
crazy look. (smile) I want to fix it and I went to the Mercedes Dealer in
my area (NC) and the price to replace it was almost 400.00 wow!!! Any
Ideas. Maybe a used one or maybe I can get this one fixed and just cover it
with the Wood finish which is what I am shooting for. Is there anyone out
there who can help??
Cliff Sadler <sadler@comcast.net> wrote:
just talked to them. These are on backorder until the end of June
at the earliest, so don't pull the old one off yet.
I am being told conflicting info on how easy/hard it is to remove
this surround.
Any mechanics on this list with an opinion?
-----Original Message-----
From: r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com
[mailto:r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com]On Behalf Of Cliff Sadler
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 9:37 AM
To: r129list@mbcoupes.com
Subject: RE: [R129 SL] overhead map light assembly issues
OK,
if you want to replace it, there is a source for a burlwood
cover at performance products. If you put in 500sl, it will not come up
though.
I have asked them for installation instructions on this, to see
just how involved this is going to get.
Here's the link for the burlwood version.
http://www.performanceproducts.com/ProductPage.aspx?ProductName=Overhead+Map
+Light+Cover+(W129)&productid=109275&producttype=20
If we have enough interest, perhaps we can get a quantity
discount with a single order.
Cliff
-----Original Message-----
From: r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com
[mailto:r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com]On Behalf Of Cynthia Carr
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 8:21 AM
To: r129list@mbcoupes.com
Subject: Re: [R129 SL] overhead map light assembly issues
Hey Guys I have the same problem!!!!! The paint, or outer
layer of plastic is horrible!! I also have what seems to be a short. I
guess I must replace the whole assembly. I even thought of covering it with
some factory matched burrolwood. Any Ideas???
Cliff Sadler <sadler@comcast.net> wrote:
The map lights work fine.
I have noticed that the paint, or outer layer of plastic is
real soft,
I thought that maybe this was due to someone trying to clean
it
with a chemical that softened the paint. Others have said
that
it is a reaction to exposure to the sun, or heat. Either
way, it has to
come off, and get refinished, or replaced.
So, how do I remove this shell, so that I can do something
with it?
I have found the 2 screws under the map lamp assemblies, but
there
are more holding that unit under the windshield frame that I
cannot find.
Do I have to remove the rear view mirror as well?
TIA.
91 500SL
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[mailto:r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Charles=20
Held<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 04, 2003 5:12 PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
r129list@mbcoupes.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [R129 SL] Shift Knobs =
WAS:=20
overhead map light assembly issues<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D361191022-04062003>I=20
have the "fused" knob (1992 500SL) and had to return one of those =
Canadian wood ones you're talking about. If you figure out how =
to=20
accomodate the burlwood one please share with the =
list!</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D361191022-04062003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
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align=3Dleft><FONT=20
face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com [mailto:r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com] =
<B>On=20
Behalf Of </B>Cliff Sadler<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 04, 2003 =
5:53=20
PM<BR><B>To:</B> r129list@mbcoupes.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [R129 =
SL]=20
overhead map light assembly issues<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D275384321-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Finally!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D275384321-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D275384321-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Thanks. That was the info I was looking for. I'll report =
back with=20
what paint or other technique I use. I had a similar mess on=20
the</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D275384321-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>vanity mirror covers in the sun shades. I used Goo Gone =
(lots of it,=20
and carefully) to remove the gick (and the air bag=20
warnings).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D275384321-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>They are now a nice Parchment color, and no longer =
collecting bugs=20
when I drive with the top down.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D275384321-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I=20
believe that Goo Gone will render the map light cover Black when=20
finished.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D275384321-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D275384321-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Evenutally, though I'll probably spring for the Burlwood =
cover. =20
The source that I sent the link for is Performance=20
Products.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D275384321-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D275384321-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Stay tuned on the shifter replacement. Early ones use a =
fused on=20
knob, which will NOT screw off for replacements. I =
may</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D275384321-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>have a source for shift levers. I'm testing one out this =
weekend, and=20
I have already gotten a real nice knob from =
Canada.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D275384321-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D275384321-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com =
[mailto:r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com]<B>On=20
Behalf Of </B>Rogers, Charlie<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 04, =
2003=20
3:50 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'r129list@mbcoupes.com'<BR><B>Subject:</B> =
RE: [R129=20
SL] overhead map light assembly issues<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D140333820-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>I had the same problem with my 1991 300SL. I takes =
about 15=20
to 20 minutes to remove the cover and I just repainted the =
existing=20
cover with some spray paint I got at and auto parts store that =
matched the=20
interior (sort of).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D140333820-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>The toughest part about pulling the cover is to remove =
the rear=20
view mirror. It just pulls down (hard) to disengage from the=20
retainer. Then push the 2 light holders up (from the side) =
into the=20
assembly and you can remove the covers and bulbs. There are =
2 screws=20
(one in each light well) that unscrew to remove the=20
cover.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D140333820-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Be careful, because there are wiring harnesses that need =
to be=20
unplugged from the mirror and the assembly. Once removed, =
the=20
assembly has electronics and sensors inside.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D140333820-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>For more details on this process, I got a subscription to =
AlldataDIY for the manual for my car. If you go to their =
website, <A=20
href=3D"http://www.alldatadiy.co">www.alldatadiy.co</A>, you can =
subscribe=20
for 1 years use of their technical data for about $28. =
It=20
contains almost all the repair manual data for the car and you can =
print=20
out what you need.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D140333820-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Charles</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D140333820-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Cynthia Carr =
[mailto:cindi679@yahoo.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 04, =
2003=20
1:02 PM<BR><B>To:</B> r129list@mbcoupes.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> =
RE: [R129=20
SL] overhead map light assembly issues<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Mr. Sadler</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I guess I did not get your previous messages in reference =
to =20
the Map Light Assembly. Who was it that you contacted and =
stated=20
that they were on back order. </DIV>
<DIV>Also, YES YES I am very interested in joining in with =
others who=20
may like to order the burlwood cover. I went to the link =
you=20
provided and I am so hooked!!!! I also want to change the =
steering=20
wheel and shift knob. Dreams Dreams I have =
Dreams..... Hopefully we=20
would get a discount. As I have stated before my Map =
light=20
is only working on one side as well as one of the switches has =
fell off=20
and it has that sticky feel to the outside and the paint seems =
to be=20
coming off. I can not take my top off with that =
crazy=20
look. (smile) I want to fix it and I went to the Mercedes =
Dealer=20
in my area (NC) and the price to replace it was almost =
400.00 =20
wow!!! Any Ideas. Maybe a used one or maybe I can get this =
one=20
fixed and just cover it with the Wood finish which is what I am =
shooting=20
for. Is there anyone out there who can =
help??<BR><BR><B><I>Cliff=20
Sadler <sadler@comcast.net></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D807044614-02062003>just talked to them. These are on =
backorder=20
until the end of June at the earliest, so don't pull the old =
one off=20
yet.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D807044614-02062003>I am being told conflicting info on =
how=20
easy/hard it is to remove this surround. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D807044614-02062003>Any mechanics on this list with an=20
opinion?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D807044614-02062003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr =
align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com=20
[mailto:r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com]<B>On Behalf Of =
</B>Cliff=20
Sadler<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 02, 2003 9:37 =
AM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
r129list@mbcoupes.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [R129 SL] =
overhead map=20
light assembly issues<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D795553414-02062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>OK,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D795553414-02062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>if you want to replace it, there is a source for a =
burlwood=20
cover at performance products. If you put in 500sl, it will =
not come=20
up though.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D795553414-02062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>I have asked them for installation instructions on =
this, to=20
see just how involved this is going to get. =
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D795553414-02062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Here's the link for the burlwood =
version.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D795553414-02062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.performanceproducts.com/ProductPage.aspx?ProductName=3D=
Overhead+Map+Light+Cover+(W129)&productid=3D109275&producttype=3D=
20">http://www.performanceproducts.com/ProductPage.aspx?ProductName=3DOve=
rhead+Map+Light+Cover+(W129)&productid=3D109275&producttype=3D20<=
/A></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D795553414-02062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D795553414-02062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>If we have enough interest, perhaps we can get a =
quantity=20
discount with a single order.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D795553414-02062003><FONT =
face=3DArial><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2>Cliff<SPAN=20
=
class=3D807044614-02062003> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV=
>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D795553414-02062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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align=3Dleft><FONT=20
face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original =
Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com=20
[mailto:r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com]<B>On Behalf Of =
</B>Cynthia=20
Carr<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 02, 2003 8:21 =
AM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
r129list@mbcoupes.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [R129 SL] =
overhead=20
map light assembly issues<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Hey Guys I have the same problem!!!!! The paint, or =
outer=20
layer of plastic is horrible!! I also have what =
seems to be=20
a short. I guess I must replace the whole =
assembly. I=20
even thought of covering it with some factory matched=20
burrolwood. Any Ideas??? <BR><BR><B><I>Cliff =
Sadler=20
<sadler@comcast.net></I></B> wrote:=20
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: =
#1010ff 2px solid"><BR>The=20
map lights work fine.<BR><BR>I have noticed that the =
paint, or=20
outer layer of plastic is real soft, <BR>I thought that =
maybe=20
this was due to someone trying to clean it<BR>with a =
chemical=20
that softened the paint. Others have said that<BR>it is =
a=20
reaction to exposure to the sun, or heat. Either way, it =
has=20
to<BR>come off, and get refinished, or =
replaced.<BR><BR>So, how=20
do I remove this shell, so that I can do something with =
it?<BR>I=20
have found the 2 screws under the map lamp assemblies, =
but=20
there<BR>are more holding that unit under the windshield =
frame=20
that I cannot find.<BR>Do I have to remove the rear view =
mirror=20
as well?<BR><BR>TIA.<BR><BR>91 500SL<BR><BR>> =
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Richardson-Carr<BR><BR>"Through God All Things are =
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