[R129 SL] overhead map light assembly issues
Cliff Sadler
r129list@mbcoupes.com
Wed, 4 Jun 2003 17:53:19 -0400
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Finally!
Thanks. That was the info I was looking for. I'll report back with what
paint or other technique I use. I had a similar mess on the
vanity mirror covers in the sun shades. I used Goo Gone (lots of it, and
carefully) to remove the gick (and the air bag warnings).
They are now a nice Parchment color, and no longer collecting bugs when I
drive with the top down.
I believe that Goo Gone will render the map light cover Black when finished.
Evenutally, though I'll probably spring for the Burlwood cover. The source
that I sent the link for is Performance Products.
Stay tuned on the shifter replacement. Early ones use a fused on knob, which
will NOT screw off for replacements. I may
have a source for shift levers. I'm testing one out this weekend, and I have
already gotten a real nice knob from Canada.
-----Original Message-----
From: r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com [mailto:r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com]On
Behalf Of Rogers, Charlie
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 3:50 PM
To: 'r129list@mbcoupes.com'
Subject: RE: [R129 SL] overhead map light assembly issues
I had the same problem with my 1991 300SL. I takes about 15 to 20 minutes
to remove the cover and I just repainted the existing cover with some spray
paint I got at and auto parts store that matched the interior (sort of).
The toughest part about pulling the cover is to remove the rear view
mirror. It just pulls down (hard) to disengage from the retainer. Then push
the 2 light holders up (from the side) into the assembly and you can remove
the covers and bulbs. There are 2 screws (one in each light well) that
unscrew to remove the cover.
Be careful, because there are wiring harnesses that need to be unplugged
from the mirror and the assembly. Once removed, the assembly has
electronics and sensors inside.
For more details on this process, I got a subscription to AlldataDIY for
the manual for my car. If you go to their website, www.alldatadiy.co, you
can subscribe for 1 years use of their technical data for about $28. It
contains almost all the repair manual data for the car and you can print out
what you need.
Charles
-----Original Message-----
From: Cynthia Carr [mailto:cindi679@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 1:02 PM
To: r129list@mbcoupes.com
Subject: RE: [R129 SL] overhead map light assembly issues
Mr. Sadler
I guess I did not get your previous messages in reference to the Map
Light Assembly. Who was it that you contacted and stated that they were on
back order.
Also, YES YES I am very interested in joining in with others who may
like to order the burlwood cover. I went to the link you provided and I am
so hooked!!!! I also want to change the steering wheel and shift knob.
Dreams Dreams I have Dreams..... Hopefully we would get a discount. As I
have stated before my Map light is only working on one side as well as one
of the switches has fell off and it has that sticky feel to the outside and
the paint seems to be coming off. I can not take my top off with that
crazy look. (smile) I want to fix it and I went to the Mercedes Dealer in
my area (NC) and the price to replace it was almost 400.00 wow!!! Any
Ideas. Maybe a used one or maybe I can get this one fixed and just cover it
with the Wood finish which is what I am shooting for. Is there anyone out
there who can help??
Cliff Sadler <sadler@comcast.net> wrote:
just talked to them. These are on backorder until the end of June at
the earliest, so don't pull the old one off yet.
I am being told conflicting info on how easy/hard it is to remove this
surround.
Any mechanics on this list with an opinion?
-----Original Message-----
From: r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com
[mailto:r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com]On Behalf Of Cliff Sadler
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 9:37 AM
To: r129list@mbcoupes.com
Subject: RE: [R129 SL] overhead map light assembly issues
OK,
if you want to replace it, there is a source for a burlwood cover at
performance products. If you put in 500sl, it will not come up though.
I have asked them for installation instructions on this, to see just
how involved this is going to get.
Here's the link for the burlwood version.
http://www.performanceproducts.com/ProductPage.aspx?ProductName=Overhead+Map
+Light+Cover+(W129)&productid=109275&producttype=20
If we have enough interest, perhaps we can get a quantity discount
with a single order.
Cliff
-----Original Message-----
From: r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com
[mailto:r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com]On Behalf Of Cynthia Carr
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 8:21 AM
To: r129list@mbcoupes.com
Subject: Re: [R129 SL] overhead map light assembly issues
Hey Guys I have the same problem!!!!! The paint, or outer layer of
plastic is horrible!! I also have what seems to be a short. I guess I must
replace the whole assembly. I even thought of covering it with some factory
matched burrolwood. Any Ideas???
Cliff Sadler <sadler@comcast.net> wrote:
The map lights work fine.
I have noticed that the paint, or outer layer of plastic is real
soft,
I thought that maybe this was due to someone trying to clean it
with a chemical that softened the paint. Others have said that
it is a reaction to exposure to the sun, or heat. Either way, it
has to
come off, and get refinished, or replaced.
So, how do I remove this shell, so that I can do something with
it?
I have found the 2 screws under the map lamp assemblies, but
there
are more holding that unit under the windshield frame that I
cannot find.
Do I have to remove the rear view mirror as well?
TIA.
91 500SL
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D275384321-04062003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Thanks. That was the info I was looking for. I'll report back =
with what=20
paint or other technique I use. I had a similar mess on =
the</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D275384321-04062003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>vanity=20
mirror covers in the sun shades. I used Goo Gone (lots of it, and =
carefully) to=20
remove the gick (and the air bag warnings).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D275384321-04062003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>They=20
are now a nice Parchment color, and no longer collecting bugs when I =
drive with=20
the top down.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D275384321-04062003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>I=20
believe that Goo Gone will render the map light cover Black when=20
finished.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D275384321-04062003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Evenutally, though I'll probably spring for the Burlwood =
cover. The=20
source that I sent the link for is Performance =
Products.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D275384321-04062003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D275384321-04062003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Stay=20
tuned on the shifter replacement. Early ones use a fused on knob, which =
will NOT=20
screw off for replacements. I may</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D275384321-04062003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>have a=20
source for shift levers. I'm testing one out this weekend, and I have =
already=20
gotten a real nice knob from Canada.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com=20
[mailto:r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Rogers,=20
Charlie<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 04, 2003 3:50 PM<BR><B>To:</B> =
'r129list@mbcoupes.com'<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [R129 SL] overhead map =
light=20
assembly issues<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D140333820-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I=20
had the same problem with my 1991 300SL. I takes about 15 to 20 =
minutes=20
to remove the cover and I just repainted the existing cover with =
some=20
spray paint I got at and auto parts store that matched the interior =
(sort=20
of).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D140333820-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>The=20
toughest part about pulling the cover is to remove the rear view =
mirror. It=20
just pulls down (hard) to disengage from the retainer. Then push =
the 2=20
light holders up (from the side) into the assembly and you can remove =
the=20
covers and bulbs. There are 2 screws (one in each light well) =
that=20
unscrew to remove the cover.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D140333820-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Be=20
careful, because there are wiring harnesses that need to be unplugged =
from the=20
mirror and the assembly. Once removed, the assembly has =
electronics and=20
sensors inside.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D140333820-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>For=20
more details on this process, I got a subscription to AlldataDIY for =
the=20
manual for my car. If you go to their website, <A=20
href=3D"http://www.alldatadiy.co">www.alldatadiy.co</A>, you can =
subscribe for 1=20
years use of their technical data for about $28. It =
contains=20
almost all the repair manual data for the car and you can print out =
what you=20
need.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D140333820-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Charles</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Cynthia Carr=20
[mailto:cindi679@yahoo.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 04, 2003 =
1:02=20
PM<BR><B>To:</B> r129list@mbcoupes.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [R129 =
SL]=20
overhead map light assembly issues<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Mr. Sadler</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I guess I did not get your previous messages in reference =
to the=20
Map Light Assembly. Who was it that you contacted and stated =
that they=20
were on back order. </DIV>
<DIV>Also, YES YES I am very interested in joining in with others =
who may=20
like to order the burlwood cover. I went to the link you =
provided and=20
I am so hooked!!!! I also want to change the steering wheel =
and shift=20
knob. Dreams Dreams I have Dreams..... Hopefully we would get a =
discount. As I have stated before my Map light is only =
working=20
on one side as well as one of the switches has fell off and it has =
that=20
sticky feel to the outside and the paint seems to be coming =
off. =20
I can not take my top off with that crazy look. (smile) I want =
to fix=20
it and I went to the Mercedes Dealer in my area (NC) and the price =
to=20
replace it was almost 400.00 wow!!! Any Ideas. Maybe a =
used one=20
or maybe I can get this one fixed and just cover it with the Wood =
finish=20
which is what I am shooting for. Is there anyone out there who =
can=20
help??<BR><BR><B><I>Cliff Sadler <sadler@comcast.net></I></B>=20
wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D807044614-02062003>just talked to them. These are on =
backorder until=20
the end of June at the earliest, so don't pull the old one off=20
yet.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D807044614-02062003>I am being told conflicting info on how =
easy/hard=20
it is to remove this surround. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D807044614-02062003>Any mechanics on this list with an=20
opinion?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com =
[mailto:r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com]<B>On=20
Behalf Of </B>Cliff Sadler<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 02, 2003 =
9:37=20
AM<BR><B>To:</B> r129list@mbcoupes.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: =
[R129 SL]=20
overhead map light assembly issues<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D795553414-02062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>OK,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D795553414-02062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>if you want to replace it, there is a source for a =
burlwood cover=20
at performance products. If you put in 500sl, it will not come =
up=20
though.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D795553414-02062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>I have asked them for installation instructions on =
this, to see=20
just how involved this is going to get. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D795553414-02062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Here's the link for the burlwood =
version.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D795553414-02062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.performanceproducts.com/ProductPage.aspx?ProductName=3D=
Overhead+Map+Light+Cover+(W129)&productid=3D109275&producttype=3D=
20">http://www.performanceproducts.com/ProductPage.aspx?ProductName=3DOve=
rhead+Map+Light+Cover+(W129)&productid=3D109275&producttype=3D20<=
/A></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D795553414-02062003><FONT face=3DArial =
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size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D795553414-02062003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>If we have enough interest, perhaps we can get a =
quantity=20
discount with a single order.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D795553414-02062003><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2>Cliff<SPAN=20
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size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com =
[mailto:r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com]<B>On=20
Behalf Of </B>Cynthia Carr<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 02, =
2003 8:21=20
AM<BR><B>To:</B> r129list@mbcoupes.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: =
[R129=20
SL] overhead map light assembly issues<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Hey Guys I have the same problem!!!!! The paint, or outer =
layer=20
of plastic is horrible!! I also have what seems to be a=20
short. I guess I must replace the whole assembly. =
I even=20
thought of covering it with some factory matched =
burrolwood. Any=20
Ideas??? <BR><BR><B><I>Cliff Sadler=20
<sadler@comcast.net></I></B> wrote:=20
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: =
#1010ff 2px solid"><BR>The=20
map lights work fine.<BR><BR>I have noticed that the paint, =
or outer=20
layer of plastic is real soft, <BR>I thought that maybe this =
was due=20
to someone trying to clean it<BR>with a chemical that =
softened the=20
paint. Others have said that<BR>it is a reaction to exposure =
to the=20
sun, or heat. Either way, it has to<BR>come off, and get =
refinished,=20
or replaced.<BR><BR>So, how do I remove this shell, so that =
I can do=20
something with it?<BR>I have found the 2 screws under the =
map lamp=20
assemblies, but there<BR>are more holding that unit under =
the=20
windshield frame that I cannot find.<BR>Do I have to remove =
the rear=20
view mirror as well?<BR><BR>TIA.<BR><BR>91 500SL<BR><BR>> =
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Richardson-Carr<BR><BR>"Through=20
God All Things are Possible"=20
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