[R129 SL] overhead map light assembly issues

Rogers, Charlie r129list@mbcoupes.com
Wed, 04 Jun 2003 14:49:53 -0600


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I had the same problem with my 1991 300SL.  I takes about 15 to 20 minutes
to remove  the cover and I just repainted the existing cover with some spray
paint I got at and auto parts store that matched the interior (sort of).
The toughest part about pulling the cover is to remove the rear view mirror.
It just pulls down (hard) to disengage from the retainer.  Then push the 2
light holders up (from the side) into the assembly and you can remove the
covers and bulbs.  There are 2 screws (one in each light well) that unscrew
to remove the cover.
Be careful, because there are wiring harnesses that need to be unplugged
from the mirror and the assembly.  Once removed, the assembly has
electronics and sensors inside.
For more details on this process, I got a subscription to AlldataDIY for the
manual for my car.  If you go to their website, www.alldatadiy.co
<http://www.alldatadiy.co> , you can subscribe for 1 years use of their
technical data for about  $28.  It contains almost all the repair manual
data for the car and you can print out what you need.
Charles
 
 
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Cynthia Carr [mailto:cindi679@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 1:02 PM
To: r129list@mbcoupes.com
Subject: RE: [R129 SL] overhead map light assembly issues


Mr. Sadler
 
I guess I did not get your previous messages in reference to  the Map Light
Assembly.  Who was it that you contacted and stated that they were on back
order.  
Also, YES YES I am very interested in joining in with others who may like to
order the burlwood cover.  I went to the link you provided and I am so
hooked!!!!  I also want to change the steering wheel and shift knob. Dreams
Dreams I have Dreams..... Hopefully we would get a discount.  As I have
stated before my  Map light is only working on one side as well as one of
the switches has fell off and it has that sticky feel to the outside and the
paint seems to be coming off.   I can not take my top off with that crazy
look.  (smile) I want to fix it and I went to the Mercedes Dealer in my area
(NC) and the price to replace it was almost 400.00  wow!!! Any Ideas.  Maybe
a used one or maybe I can get this one fixed and just cover it with the Wood
finish which is what I am shooting for.  Is there anyone out there who can
help??

Cliff Sadler <sadler@comcast.net> wrote:

just talked to them. These are on backorder until the end of June at the
earliest, so don't pull the old one off yet.
I am being told conflicting info on how easy/hard it is to remove this
surround. 
Any mechanics on this list with an opinion?
 

-----Original Message-----
From: r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com [mailto:r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com]On
Behalf Of Cliff Sadler
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 9:37 AM
To: r129list@mbcoupes.com
Subject: RE: [R129 SL] overhead map light assembly issues


OK,
if you want to replace it, there is a source for a burlwood cover at
performance products. If you put in 500sl, it will not come up though.
I have asked them for installation instructions on this, to see just how
involved this is going to get. 
Here's the link for the burlwood version.
http://www.performanceproducts.com/ProductPage.aspx?ProductName=Overhead+Map
+Light+Cover+(W129)
<http://www.performanceproducts.com/ProductPage.aspx?ProductName=Overhead+Ma
p+Light+Cover+(W129)&productid=109275&producttype=20>
&productid=109275&producttype=20
 
If we have enough interest, perhaps we can get a quantity discount with a
single order.
Cliff 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com [mailto:r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com]On
Behalf Of Cynthia Carr
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 8:21 AM
To: r129list@mbcoupes.com
Subject: Re: [R129 SL] overhead map light assembly issues


Hey Guys I have the same problem!!!!! The paint, or outer layer of plastic
is horrible!!  I also have what seems to be a short.  I guess I must replace
the whole assembly.  I even thought of covering it with some factory matched
burrolwood.  Any Ideas???  

Cliff Sadler <sadler@comcast.net> wrote: 


The map lights work fine.

I have noticed that the paint, or outer layer of plastic is real soft, 
I thought that maybe this was due to someone trying to clean it
with a chemical that softened the paint. Others have said that
it is a reaction to exposure to the sun, or heat. Either way, it has to
come off, and get refinished, or replaced.

So, how do I remove this shell, so that I can do something with it?
I have found the 2 screws under the map lamp assemblies, but there
are more holding that unit under the windshield frame that I cannot find.
Do I have to remove the rear view mirror as well?

TIA.

91 500SL

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<DIV><SPAN class=140333820-04062003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I had 
the same problem with my 1991 300SL.&nbsp; I takes about 15 to 20 minutes to 
remove&nbsp; the cover and I just repainted the existing cover with some spray 
paint I got at and auto parts store that matched the interior (sort 
of).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=140333820-04062003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>The 
toughest part about pulling the cover is to remove the rear view mirror. It just 
pulls down (hard) to disengage from the retainer.&nbsp; Then push the 2 light 
holders up (from the side) into the assembly and you can remove the covers and 
bulbs.&nbsp; There are 2 screws (one in each light well) that unscrew to remove 
the cover.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=140333820-04062003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Be 
careful, because there are wiring harnesses that need to be unplugged from the 
mirror and the assembly.&nbsp; Once removed, the assembly has electronics and 
sensors inside.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=140333820-04062003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>For 
more details on this process, I got a subscription to AlldataDIY for the manual 
for my car.&nbsp; If you go to their website, <A 
href="http://www.alldatadiy.co">www.alldatadiy.co</A>, you can subscribe for 1 
years use of their technical data for about&nbsp; $28.&nbsp; It contains almost 
all the repair manual data for the car and you can print out what you 
need.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=140333820-04062003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>Charles</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>
  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Cynthia Carr 
  [mailto:cindi679@yahoo.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 04, 2003 1:02 
  PM<BR><B>To:</B> r129list@mbcoupes.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [R129 SL] 
  overhead map light assembly issues<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>Mr. Sadler</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>I guess I did not get your previous messages in reference to&nbsp; the 
  Map Light Assembly.&nbsp; Who was it that you contacted and stated that they 
  were on back order.&nbsp; </DIV>
  <DIV>Also, YES YES I am very interested in joining in with others who may like 
  to order the burlwood cover.&nbsp; I went to the link you provided and I am so 
  hooked!!!!&nbsp; I also want to change the steering wheel and shift knob. 
  Dreams Dreams I have Dreams.....&nbsp;Hopefully we would get a discount.&nbsp; 
  As I have stated before my&nbsp; Map light is only working on one side as well 
  as one of the switches has fell off and it has that sticky feel to the outside 
  and the paint seems to be coming off.&nbsp;&nbsp; I can not take my top off 
  with that crazy look.&nbsp; (smile) I want to fix it and I went to the 
  Mercedes Dealer in my area (NC) and the price to replace it was almost 
  400.00&nbsp; wow!!! Any Ideas.&nbsp; Maybe a used one or maybe I can get this 
  one fixed and just cover it with the Wood finish which is what I am shooting 
  for.&nbsp; Is there anyone out there who can help??<BR><BR><B><I>Cliff Sadler 
  &lt;sadler@comcast.net&gt;</I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
    class=807044614-02062003>just talked to them. These are on backorder until 
    the end of June at the earliest, so don't pull the old one off 
    yet.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=807044614-02062003>I 
    am being told conflicting info on how easy/hard it is to remove this 
    surround. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
    class=807044614-02062003>Any mechanics on this list with an 
    opinion?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
    class=807044614-02062003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
      <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
      size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
      r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com [mailto:r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com]<B>On 
      Behalf Of </B>Cliff Sadler<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 02, 2003 9:37 
      AM<BR><B>To:</B> r129list@mbcoupes.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [R129 SL] 
      overhead map light assembly issues<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=795553414-02062003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
      size=2>OK,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=795553414-02062003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
      size=2>if you want to replace it, there is a source for a burlwood cover 
      at performance products. If you put in 500sl, it will not come up 
      though.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=795553414-02062003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
      size=2>I have asked them for installation instructions on this, to see 
      just how involved this is going to get. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=795553414-02062003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
      size=2>Here's the link for the burlwood version.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=795553414-02062003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
      size=2><A 
      href="http://www.performanceproducts.com/ProductPage.aspx?ProductName=Overhead+Map+Light+Cover+(W129)&amp;productid=109275&amp;producttype=20">http://www.performanceproducts.com/ProductPage.aspx?ProductName=Overhead+Map+Light+Cover+(W129)&amp;productid=109275&amp;producttype=20</A></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=795553414-02062003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
      size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=795553414-02062003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
      size=2>If we have enough interest, perhaps we can get a quantity discount 
      with a single order.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=795553414-02062003><FONT face=Arial><FONT 
      color=#0000ff><FONT size=2>Cliff<SPAN 
      class=807044614-02062003>&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=795553414-02062003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
      size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
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        <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
        size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
        r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com [mailto:r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com]<B>On 
        Behalf Of </B>Cynthia Carr<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 02, 2003 8:21 
        AM<BR><B>To:</B> r129list@mbcoupes.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [R129 SL] 
        overhead map light assembly issues<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
        <DIV>Hey Guys I have the same problem!!!!! The paint, or outer layer of 
        plastic is horrible!!&nbsp; I also have what seems to be a short.&nbsp; 
        I guess I must replace the whole assembly.&nbsp; I even thought of 
        covering it with some factory matched burrolwood.&nbsp; Any 
        Ideas???&nbsp; <BR><BR><B><I>Cliff Sadler 
        &lt;sadler@comcast.net&gt;</I></B> wrote: 
        <BLOCKQUOTE 
        style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"><BR>The 
          map lights work fine.<BR><BR>I have noticed that the paint, or outer 
          layer of plastic is real soft, <BR>I thought that maybe this was due 
          to someone trying to clean it<BR>with a chemical that softened the 
          paint. Others have said that<BR>it is a reaction to exposure to the 
          sun, or heat. Either way, it has to<BR>come off, and get refinished, 
          or replaced.<BR><BR>So, how do I remove this shell, so that I can do 
          something with it?<BR>I have found the 2 screws under the map lamp 
          assemblies, but there<BR>are more holding that unit under the 
          windshield frame that I cannot find.<BR>Do I have to remove the rear 
          view mirror as well?<BR><BR>TIA.<BR><BR>91 500SL<BR><BR>&gt; 
          ATTACHMENT part 2 application/ms-tnef name=winmail.dat 
        </BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><BR>Cynthia A. Richardson-Carr<BR><BR>"Through 
        God All Things are Possible" 
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