[Jacob-list] Jacob-list Digest, Vol 110, Issue 7
Linda
patchworkfibers at windstream.net
Sat May 4 11:43:06 EDT 2013
Kate,
[sheep-color-genetics] on yahoo discusses color genetics, although it's
not specific to Jacobs.Most of the breeds mentioned are not Ed, so you
have hunt through for information related to Jacob color genetics. There
is some relevancy (maybe) to lilacs in discussions on the Black/brown
gene. There just happened to be a discussion recently on Ed. I found it
interesting to read that many breedswork hard to eliminate the Ed gene
as it hides the agouti patterns which many breeds prize.
Linda.
On 5/4/2013 1:49 AM, Kate Barrett wrote:
> My all white Jacob yearling has brown eyes, and a tiny smudge of black
> on her nose. She is 4 horned, but the horns are white. I am interested
> to learn more about the e+ gene. She is not crossbred, nor is she
> inbred. Where can I read more on the genetics of color in Jacobs?
> Kate
> Ruby Peak Farms
>
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> 1. Re: Statistics on white cats (Linda)
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> Date: Fri, 03 May 2013 17:31:00 -0400
> From: Linda <patchworkfibers at windstream.net
> <mailto:patchworkfibers at windstream.net>>
> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] Statistics on white cats
> To: Peg Bostwick <peg at sweetgrass-jacobs.com
> <mailto:peg at sweetgrass-jacobs.com>>
> Cc: jacob-list at jacobsheep.com <mailto:jacob-list at jacobsheep.com>,
> pbpiep at att.net <mailto:pbpiep at att.net>
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> This topic was recently discussed on the sheep-genetics listin
> regard to
> a Jacob ram that sired a white lamb on a Southdown/Shetland cross ewe.
> The breeder now says the lamb has pale tannish spotting, so may be a
> different issue.
>
> On 5/3/2013 9:14 AM, Peg Bostwick wrote:
> >
> > Hopefully Ingrid will respond directly -- but I did talk to her way
> > back when we had our two white ones, and at that time she gave the
> > "one big spot" explanation.
> >
> > *Peg **Bostwick***
> >
> > peg at sweetgrass-jacobs.com <mailto:peg at sweetgrass-jacobs.com>
> <mailto:peg at sweetgrass-jacobs.com <mailto:peg at sweetgrass-jacobs.com>>
> >
> > 517-626-6981 <tel:517-626-6981>
> >
> > *From:*jacob-list-bounces at jacobsheep.com
> <mailto:jacob-list-bounces at jacobsheep.com>
> > [mailto:jacob-list-bounces at jacobsheep.com
> <mailto:jacob-list-bounces at jacobsheep.com>] *On Behalf Of
> *pbpiep at att.net <mailto:pbpiep at att.net>
> > *Sent:* Thursday, May 02, 2013 7:35 PM
> > *To:* jacob-list at jacobsheep.com <mailto:jacob-list at jacobsheep.com>
> > *Subject:* [Jacob-list] Statistics on white cats
> >
> > The issue of deafness in white cats is tied to the color of their
> > eyes. If the white cat has blue eyes, it will be deaf from
> birth. If
> > it has one green eye or both eyes are green, the cat can hear. Your
> > local veterinarian will verify that.
> >
> > In rabbits the eyes have to be pink, not blue, to be a true albino.
> > And since many of the Jacobs have blue eyes, if they were a true
> > albino would their eyes also be pink??
> >
> > What does Ingrid Painter have to say about totally white Jacobs??
> >
> >
> >
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> Date: Fri, 03 May 2013 18:23:58 -0400
> From: Linda <patchworkfibers at windstream.net
> <mailto:patchworkfibers at windstream.net>>
> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] Statistics on white cats
> To: Peg Bostwick <peg at sweetgrass-jacobs.com
> <mailto:peg at sweetgrass-jacobs.com>>
> Cc: jacob-list at jacobsheep.com <mailto:jacob-list at jacobsheep.com>,
> pbpiep at att.net <mailto:pbpiep at att.net>
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> Got too quick on the send button. Thethought on the genetics list was
> that a Jacob that produced a white lamb when crossbred carries
> only one
> dominant black (Ed) gene rather than two. The lamb got the E+ gene
> instead ofthe Ed gene. Itseems possible that an all white Jacob lamb
> (all white meaning NO color anywhere including hornsand not an albino)
> may have gotten an E+ gene from each parent. Possible, but maybe
> not the
> only explanation.
>
> I've never actually seen one with no color, but the pictures I've seen
> have had blue eyes. Do all white Jacobs occur with brown eyes?
>
> I had a white cat with green eyes, who could hear. She was
> pregnant when
> she was given to me. She had three blue eyed white kittens - all
> deaf. I
> have a calico cat that might as well be deaf for as well as she
> listens
> to me.
>
> Linda
> On 5/3/2013 5:31 PM, Linda wrote:
> > This topic was recently discussed on the sheep-genetics listin
> regard
> > to a Jacob ram that sired a white lamb on a Southdown/Shetland cross
> > ewe. The breeder now says the lamb has pale tannish spotting, so may
> > be a different issue.
> >
> > On 5/3/2013 9:14 AM, Peg Bostwick wrote:
> >>
> >> Hopefully Ingrid will respond directly -- but I did talk to her way
> >> back when we had our two white ones, and at that time she gave the
> >> "one big spot" explanation.
> >>
> >> *Peg **Bostwick***
> >>
> >> peg at sweetgrass-jacobs.com <mailto:peg at sweetgrass-jacobs.com>
> <mailto:peg at sweetgrass-jacobs.com <mailto:peg at sweetgrass-jacobs.com>>
> >>
> >> 517-626-6981 <tel:517-626-6981>
> >>
> >> *From:*jacob-list-bounces at jacobsheep.com
> <mailto:jacob-list-bounces at jacobsheep.com>
> >> [mailto:jacob-list-bounces at jacobsheep.com
> <mailto:jacob-list-bounces at jacobsheep.com>] *On Behalf Of
> *pbpiep at att.net <mailto:pbpiep at att.net>
> >> *Sent:* Thursday, May 02, 2013 7:35 PM
> >> *To:* jacob-list at jacobsheep.com <mailto:jacob-list at jacobsheep.com>
> >> *Subject:* [Jacob-list] Statistics on white cats
> >>
> >> The issue of deafness in white cats is tied to the color of their
> >> eyes. If the white cat has blue eyes, it will be deaf from birth.
> >> If it has one green eye or both eyes are green, the cat can hear.
> >> Your local veterinarian will verify that.
> >>
> >> In rabbits the eyes have to be pink, not blue, to be a true albino.
> >> And since many of the Jacobs have blue eyes, if they were a true
> >> albino would their eyes also be pink??
> >>
> >> What does Ingrid Painter have to say about totally white Jacobs??
> >>
> >>
> >>
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