[Jacob-list] Jacob-list Digest, Vol 110, Issue 7

[Kate Barrett]

My all white Jacob yearling has brown eyes, and a tiny smudge of black on
her nose. She is 4 horned, but the horns are white. I am interested to
learn more about the e+ gene. She is not crossbred, nor is she inbred.
Where can I read more on the genetics of color in Jacobs?
Kate
Ruby Peak Farms


On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 3:24 PM, <jacob-list-request at jacobsheep.com> wrote:


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> Date: Fri, 03 May 2013 17:31:00 -0400

> From: Linda <patchworkfibers at windstream.net>

> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] Statistics on white cats

> To: Peg Bostwick <peg at sweetgrass-jacobs.com>

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> This topic was recently discussed on the sheep-genetics listin regard to

> a Jacob ram that sired a white lamb on a Southdown/Shetland cross ewe.

> The breeder now says the lamb has pale tannish spotting, so may be a

> different issue.

>

> On 5/3/2013 9:14 AM, Peg Bostwick wrote:

> >

> > Hopefully Ingrid will respond directly -- but I did talk to her way

> > back when we had our two white ones, and at that time she gave the

> > "one big spot" explanation.

> >

> > *Peg **Bostwick***

> >

> > peg at sweetgrass-jacobs.com <mailto:peg at sweetgrass-jacobs.com>

> >

> > 517-626-6981

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> > *From:*jacob-list-bounces at jacobsheep.com

> > [mailto:jacob-list-bounces at jacobsheep.com] *On Behalf Of *pbpiep at att.net

> > *Sent:* Thursday, May 02, 2013 7:35 PM

> > *To:* jacob-list at jacobsheep.com

> > *Subject:* [Jacob-list] Statistics on white cats

> >

> > The issue of deafness in white cats is tied to the color of their

> > eyes.  If the white cat has blue eyes, it will be deaf from birth.  If

> > it has one green eye or both eyes are green, the cat can hear.  Your

> > local veterinarian will verify that.

> >

> > In rabbits the eyes have to be pink, not blue, to be a true albino.

> > And since many of the Jacobs have blue eyes, if they were a true

> > albino would their eyes also be pink??

> >

> > What does Ingrid Painter have to say about totally white Jacobs??

> >

> >

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> Date: Fri, 03 May 2013 18:23:58 -0400

> From: Linda <patchworkfibers at windstream.net>

> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] Statistics on white cats

> To: Peg Bostwick <peg at sweetgrass-jacobs.com>

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> Got too quick on the send button. Thethought on the genetics list was

> that a Jacob that produced a white lamb when crossbred carries only one

> dominant black (Ed) gene rather than two. The lamb got the E+ gene

> instead ofthe Ed gene. Itseems possible that an all white Jacob lamb

> (all white meaning NO color anywhere including hornsand not an albino)

> may have gotten an E+ gene from each parent. Possible, but maybe not the

> only explanation.

>

> I've never actually seen one with no color, but the pictures I've seen

> have had blue eyes. Do all white Jacobs occur with brown eyes?

>

> I had a white cat with green eyes, who could hear. She was pregnant when

> she was given to me. She had three blue eyed white kittens - all deaf. I

> have a calico cat that might as well be deaf for as well as she listens

> to me.

>

> Linda

> On 5/3/2013 5:31 PM, Linda wrote:

> > This topic was recently discussed on the sheep-genetics listin regard

> > to a Jacob ram that sired a white lamb on a Southdown/Shetland cross

> > ewe. The breeder now says the lamb has pale tannish spotting, so may

> > be a different issue.

> >

> > On 5/3/2013 9:14 AM, Peg Bostwick wrote:

> >>

> >> Hopefully Ingrid will respond directly -- but I did talk to her way

> >> back when we had our two white ones, and at that time she gave the

> >> "one big spot" explanation.

> >>

> >> *Peg **Bostwick***

> >>

> >> peg at sweetgrass-jacobs.com <mailto:peg at sweetgrass-jacobs.com>

> >>

> >> 517-626-6981

> >>

> >> *From:*jacob-list-bounces at jacobsheep.com

> >> [mailto:jacob-list-bounces at jacobsheep.com] *On Behalf Of *

> pbpiep at att.net

> >> *Sent:* Thursday, May 02, 2013 7:35 PM

> >> *To:* jacob-list at jacobsheep.com

> >> *Subject:* [Jacob-list] Statistics on white cats

> >>

> >> The issue of deafness in white cats is tied to the color of their

> >> eyes.  If the white cat has blue eyes, it will be deaf from birth.

> >> If it has one green eye or both eyes are green, the cat can hear.

> >> Your local veterinarian will verify that.

> >>

> >> In rabbits the eyes have to be pink, not blue, to be a true albino.

> >> And since many of the Jacobs have blue eyes, if they were a true

> >> albino would their eyes also be pink??

> >>

> >> What does Ingrid Painter have to say about totally white Jacobs??

> >>

> >>

> >>

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