[Jacob-list] White lambs

[Gary Anderson]

The genetic explanation I have heard for white Jacobs is in line with
Juliet's explanation: The lamb expresses one large spot.  Presumably the
white Jacob would produce spotted lambs.

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Today's Topics:

   1. 4-Horn Ram For Sale - Elmira OR (Bill & Jeannette Joosse)
   2. WHITE LAMBS (tim koenig)
   3. Re: WHITE LAMBS (Peg Bostwick)
   4. Re: WHITE LAMBS (Linda)
   5. Re: WHITE LAMBS (Dan Carpenter)
   6. Re: WHITE LAMBS (Richard and Susan)
   7. Re: WHITE LAMBS (G & J Johnston)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 12:14:23 -0700
From: "Bill & Jeannette Joosse" <wjjoosse at gmail.com>
Subject: [Jacob-list] 4-Horn Ram For Sale - Elmira OR
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Due to limited facilities, I am selling a 1 yr old JSBA registered ram for
$150 (or OBO).
He is 4-Horn and 45% Black. DOB 02/14/11.
Registration No. D006-12  Joosse's Vincent.
His sire is Kenleigh's Frankie and dam is Rollings Hills Elsie.
He sired 6 lambs this year.
If interested, please let me know and I will email photos.
I may be reached at 541.935.6303  or email  wjjoosse at gmail.com
 Elmira OR is approximately 15 miles west of Eugene.

Jeannette Joosse
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Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 15:32:20 -0700
From: tim koenig <timkoenig5 at gmail.com>
Subject: [Jacob-list] WHITE LAMBS
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Lambing just started for me, and with a surprise, a Totally white ewe.
No non-Jacobs on the farm since I started with Jacobs, or with
neighbors. Has anyone else had this happen before?


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Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 19:00:43 -0400
From: "Peg Bostwick" <peg at sweetgrass-jacobs.com>
Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] WHITE LAMBS
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Not for a long time, but during our first couple of years with the Jacobs,
we did have a set of triplets with two of the three all white (with blue
eyes).  Pre-registry, so it was hard to track where it came from, but Ingrid
Painter does mention this happening in her book on Jacobs, and provides a
couple of possible genetic explanations.   Ours wound up in our mixed
(commercial) flock, and their lambs looked like any other Jacob crosses -
mostly dark with badger markings.  

Peg

Peg Bostwick
peg at sweetgrass-jacobs.com
517-626-6981


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Subject: [Jacob-list] WHITE LAMBS

Lambing just started for me, and with a surprise, a Totally white ewe.
No non-Jacobs on the farm since I started with Jacobs, or with neighbors.
Has anyone else had this happen before?
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 19:12:18 -0400
From: Linda <patchworkfibers at windstream.net>
Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] WHITE LAMBS
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Over the years, people have posted on this list about white lambs from 
Jacob parents. It seems it does occur. If you search the archives, you 
can find reference to white lambs.

Linda

On 3/28/2012 6:32 PM, tim koenig wrote:

> Lambing just started for me, and with a surprise, a Totally white ewe.

> No non-Jacobs on the farm since I started with Jacobs, or with

> neighbors. Has anyone else had this happen before?

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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 19:30:31 -0400
From: "Dan Carpenter" <Hobsickle at aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] WHITE LAMBS
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Since it's almost impossible to eliminate recessive alleles from a
population (witness red in Holsteins), it's highly likely that there are a
few Jacobs out there that carry the genes necessary for white...and it
doesn't have to indicate crossbreeding.  I'd love to take a look at the
pedigrees of the parents!

-Dan

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Subject: [Jacob-list] WHITE LAMBS

Lambing just started for me, and with a surprise, a Totally white ewe.
No non-Jacobs on the farm since I started with Jacobs, or with neighbors.
Has anyone else had this happen before?
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 19:50:22 -0400
From: "Richard and Susan" <stcroft at ptd.net>
Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] WHITE LAMBS
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I have never had a totally white lamb -- however, this year I have had two
nearly all black lambs......never had that before.  
We have a small flock.....only had six ewes who were bred this
Spring.......so we have 12 lambs..........and 10 are rams.    
Sue



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[mailto:jacob-list-bounces at jacobsheep.com] On Behalf Of tim koenig
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 6:32 PM
To: Jacob-list at jacobsheep.com
Subject: [Jacob-list] WHITE LAMBS

Lambing just started for me, and with a surprise, a Totally white ewe.
No non-Jacobs on the farm since I started with Jacobs, or with neighbors.
Has anyone else had this happen before?
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 12:05:23 +0100
From: "G & J Johnston" <westergladstone at btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] WHITE LAMBS
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As a Jacob is genetically a black sheep with white spots, would a totally
white one not simply be expressing an all-encompassing white spot?  Or is
that too simplistic?

www.scothebs.co.uk




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