[Jacob-list] Scrapie vs moving out-of-state
Gary Anderson
gbanderson at ucdavis.edu
Tue Sep 18 06:56:53 EDT 2007
Regarding state-by-state differences in the voluntary scrapie certification
program, tomorrow a Michigan state veterinarian will carry out our first
inspection since we moved from California to Michigan. As pointed out by
others, the program is federal but administered by individual states. We
were assigned a new premises identification number (i.e., one that begins
with MI instead of our previous ID number that began with CA) but were
allowed to maintain our status established in California (i.e., our "clock"
was not reset). Michigan has trivial differences from California in
recordkeeping but accepted our previous records. The only significant
difference is that non-tamper tags that I had to buy in California are FREE
in Michigan!
An out-of-state move need not discourage enrollment in the program (though
it's another task to contend with in a move). Unless we're handed something
unexpected at tomorrow's inspection, our California-to-Michigan transition
in regard to the scrapie program was smooth. The folks from the USDA office
were helpful. Good luck, Liz.
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Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 17:20:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: Liz <whiskey_wy at yahoo.com>
Subject: [Jacob-list] scrapie
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I haven't entered into the voluntary scrapie program as of yet. I was trying
to deal with 3 different states. And each state has their own requirements,
bust so far I've learned that at least in CA, WY, and IL that it's 5 years
to be considered scrapie free. I haven't entered the program yet becuase
I'm leaving CA on my way to IL by way of WY for at least a year. Taking only
6 sheep with me, 4 ewes, a wether, and a ram. When talking to the scrapie
people here in CA they said it's up to each state as to wether I would have
to start over at the zero year mark upon entering the new state, so I just
will wait until I get to IL.
Has anyone else had to go through similar situations?
Lilly
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Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 21:16:30 -0400
From: Linda <patchworkfibers at alltel.net>
Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] scrapie
To: Liz <whiskey_wy at yahoo.com>, <jacob-list at jacobsheep.com>
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It's five years in every state to be considered "certified". It's a federal
program.
www.patchworkfibers.com
Registered Jacob Sheep, Angora Rabbits, Handspun Yarn
> I haven't entered into the voluntary scrapie program as of yet. I
> was trying to deal with 3 different states. And each state has
> their own requirements, bust so far I've learned that at least in
> CA, WY, and IL that it's 5 years to be considered scrapie free. I
> haven't entered the program yet becuase I'm leaving CA on my way to
> IL by way of WY for at least a year. Taking only 6 sheep with me, 4
> ewes, a wether, and a ram. When talking to the scrapie people here
> in CA they said it's up to each state as to wether I would have to
> start over at the zero year mark upon entering the new state, so I
> just will wait until I get to IL.
>
> Has anyone else had to go through similar situations?
>
> Lilly
> Horizonewe
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Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 13:22:33 +0000
From: "southwindfarms at frontiernet.net"
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Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] scrapie
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Re: Scrapie
I have been involved in the voluntary program for a long time and am
now certified scrapie free. We added a goat flock along the way that
set back our certification at one point. Once a year the state vet
comes out checks ID, sheep/goats and records. I look forward to the
visits. A couple of years back our state (NY) offered free genetic
testing for scrapie resistance and I took advantage of it. RR
indicates resistant sheep, QQ indicates susceptible sheep and QR
indicates rarely susceptible or susceptible to some strains of scrapie
which are believed to be rare in the US. We tested all of our adult
Jacobs (30). One third were RR including our ram Thistle. Three were
QQ and the rest were QR. I still have one QQ ewe in the flock but
always breed her to the RR ram for QR offspring. I'm not sure if my
results bear out Jacobs being resistant or not.
The state vets generally recommend breeding with RR rams if possible
because that eliminates the QQ offspring no matter what status the
ewes are. I have been testing my ram lambs ever since. It costs
about $11/head. Right now only five ewes in the flock are untested
all yearlings and all genetically either QR or RR. I'll probably do
them with next years lambs.
I know that Joan Schnieber of Jenny Jump Farm in NJ said she has
tested her flock and I thought I saw another another breeder from NJ
who said she had tested as well. I believe a few others are probably
testing as well.
Laura Burnside
Southwind Farms
www.southwindfarms.org
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> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 10:04:30 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Shannon Phifer <kenleighacres at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] Horns and Scrapie
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> Hi All - Thank you Betty for setting the record straight in regards
> to Scrapie. I am amazed at how many people aren't on the mandatory
> program. Here is a link with information on how to sign up and
> where to order tags -
>
http://www.aphis.usda.gov/animal_health/animal_diseases/scrapie/approved-tag
-co.shtml
>
> In regards to horns - I personally love a beautiful, wide 2-horn :)
> and I find close horns on a 2-horn very objectionable. I agree with
> Linda, I love wide laterals. I prefer symetrical horns with space
> between. I would never use a ram with lobster claws. I don't have
> a problem with broken horns. The JSBA standard states the following
> are disqualifying traits:
>
> HORNS:
> - Polled sheep, or sheep with scurs only.
> - Two-horned rams having small, weak, feminine looking horns.
> - Multiple-horned rams having fewer than four strong horns, with
> scurs in upper or lower horn position. (it is fully acceptable for
> rams with at least 4 or more strong balanced horns to have
> additional scurs or horn buds)
> - Two-horned ewes having small or weak horns.
> - Multiple horned ewes having scurs in the primary/top horn position
> - Solid white horns
> - Forward pointing horns curling towards the eyes, or growing over
> the nose impairing the ability to graze naturally
> - Narrow or close horns on two horned rams that lack space between
> the growing horns and his neck or jaw, encumbering his well being
> - Undifferentiated and unbalanced set to four horned ram, i.e.,
> fused in an irregular pattern on one or both sides
> - Small, feminine horns on rams
> - Lower (lateral) horns that grow into the face, cheek or neck
>
> For those of you that haven't seen it yet, there is a wonderful
> Judge's Packet on the JSBA website. This is great for judges, but
> it is also very informational for a new Jacob owner.
> http://www.jsba.org/JudgesPacket2.pdf
>
> Take care!
>
> Shannon Phifer
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> Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 19:26:28 -0400
> From: Linda <patchworkfibers at alltel.net>
> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] Sold Jacobs returning!
> To: Meg Steensland <beegal7 at yahoo.com>, Jacob List
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> I give it an automatic "maybe". Depends on the circumstances at the
> farm. What other sheep were there besides mine? Did the owner
> practice whole flock wormings to the point that I might be bringing
> in a resistant parasite? What health problems, if any, did the buyer
> have? Are these sheep I'd want to have back? Most likely yes as I
> don't sell sheep I wouldn't buy. But I often sell sheep because I'm
> overloaded on a particular bloodline.
>
> What I will do is to work to find breeder homes for sheep I've sold.
>
> Linda
>
> www.patchworkfibers.com
> Registered Jacob Sheep, Angora Rabbits, Handspun Yarn
>
>> Last March I sold a group of 8 sheep to a woman that wanted to use
>> them to show off her trained dogs. She called tonight and reported
>> she is getting a divorce, selling the farm and moving back to WY -
>> can I take the sheep back?
>>
>> Of course! She did place two, so it is just 6 coming back and I
>> still have many 2007 and older ewes to place! One of the ewes
>> coming back is really special as she was Res. Breed CH as a lamb in
>> 2005, she did a parade and a benefit and is one high-stepping proud-
>> walking ewe.She is returning with her 2007 ewe lamb sired by a
>> lilac ram Another Jacob is a quieter, friendly one also with her
>> ewe lamb by the lilac guy (lamb was born after dam left here). So,
>> I suddenly have 6 more ewes than I had planned for and would be
>> happy to place a few of these or other 2005-2007 ewes (or older
>> ones if you truly want same). I am in OH. I will be taking two
>> sheep to exhibit at the Yellow Springs A Wool Gathering as we
>> usually do, tomorrow.
>>
>> If you are near Ithaca NY - Marie (on this list) may have room to
>> bring back a ewe or two for you - she will be here last weekend in
>> Sept to fetch a ram and a ewe for her flock.
>>
>> General question - when someone wants to bring back a Jacob -
>> automatic yes? Depends on how long or circumstances? Does this
>> happen to you?
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> From: Linda <patchworkfibers at alltel.net>
> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] Correct horns
> To: Linda <patchworkfibers at alltel.net>, <Gotothewhip at aol.com>,
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> Am I the only one that replied? I'm very interested in hearing
> thoughts from other breeders.
>
> www.patchworkfibers.com
> Registered Jacob Sheep, Angora Rabbits, Handspun Yarn
>
>> I love laterals that sweep WAY out! I don't consider them
>> objectionable at all. In fact I consider wide swept laterals to be
>> very desirable.
>>
>> Prefer to have some separation at the base in a 6 month old ram
>> lamb, but would consider the ram if he were superior in other areas.
>>
>> Some 2 horned rams with very large horns really are two horned. I
>> seldom use a two horned, but when I do, I want to see a very wide
>> sweep. I do not want to see two horns that are close to the cheek
>> in either a ram or a ewe.
>>
>> You aren't going to be able to avoid ever having horns broken. Not
>> a fault, imo.
>>
>> Linda
>>
>>
>> www.patchworkfibers.com
>> Registered Jacob Sheep, Angora Rabbits, Handspun Yarn
>>
>>
>>> As a newbie.. I am really curious on a few horn questions.. Ive
>>> read thru the JSBA standard, but am still left with questions.
>>>
>>> HOW objectionable to you as a breeder are horns as follows?
>>>
>>> Lack of separation at the bases?
>>>
>>> Fused horns?
>>> What about a true fused horn, where to an untrained eye, it is a
>>> 2 horn ram... But others say because of the extreme mass of the 2
>>> horn , they are actually 4 horn fused?
>>>
>>> "Lobster Claws"?
>>>
>>> Broken horns?
>>>
>>> On lower drop horns.. Ones, that do not curl, and just go out?
>>>
>>> What about drop horns that grow into the face?
>>>
>>> Too tight curls on a 2 horn?
>>>
>>> Of these above mentioned horn "problems" which ones are NOT
>>> eligible for registry?
>>>
>>>
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> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 07:10:27 -0400
> From: "Betty Berlenbach" <lambfarm at sover.net>
> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] scrape program
> To: <Schmick54 at aol.com>, <paigebowser at gmail.com>,
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> AND BY THE WAY., AS MICKI PONTS OUTM THE WORD IS SCRAPIE, NOT SCRAPE
> NOR SCRAPIES!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Schmick54 at aol.com
> To: paigebowser at gmail.com ; jacob-list at jacobsheep.com
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 11:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] scrape program
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>
> It is a farm that regularly tests for scrapie. All sheep these
> days are required to have a tag identifying them in case the sheep
> develops the disease.You can find out about Scrapie by going to:
> www.animalagriculture.org/scrapie. It will tell you all you need to
> know and tell you where to get your tags and how to become a
> scrapie program farm. You don't have to ! You just need the tags.
> Scrapie is rather rare in Jacob Sheep. At least, no cases have been
> reported.
>
> Mick
>
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> From: "Betty Berlenbach" <lambfarm at sover.net>
> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] scrape program
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> wrong! you do have to. there's been a MANDAYORY scrapie program
> for several years now! you dob\n't have to sign up for the
> voluntary program, which is more comprehensive and requires a closed
> fkock, but MANDATORY means MANDATORY! SORRY ABOUT TYPINGM USING
> OINE FINGER, BROKEN WRIST,AMONG OTHER THINGS. GOOGLE APHIS TO FIND
> OUT WHAT YPU HAVE TO DO FOR MANDATORY PROGRAM.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Schmick54 at aol.com
> To: paigebowser at gmail.com ; jacob-list at jacobsheep.com
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 11:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] scrape program
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>
> It is a farm that regularly tests for scrapie. All sheep these
> days are required to have a tag identifying them in case the sheep
> develops the disease.You can find out about Scrapie by going to:
> www.animalagriculture.org/scrapie. It will tell you all you need to
> know and tell you where to get your tags and how to become a
> scrapie program farm. You don't have to ! You just need the tags.
> Scrapie is rather rare in Jacob Sheep. At least, no cases have been
> reported.
>
> Mick
>
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> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 10:56:18 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Victoria da Roza <castlerockjacobs at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] Scrapie
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> In California you attain the term "scrapie free" which
> you can use for advertising after 5 years of being on
> the program without bringing any ewes in that are not
> from a voluntary scrapie flock of at least the same
> number of years. So 5 is the magic number. If you
> bring in a ewe from a flock not on a voluntary scrapie
> program, you return to year zero and start the 5 years
> again.
> The voluntary program also entails a vet inspector
> who visits your flock every year and looks over the
> sheep and your records to see they are tagged, healthy
> and you have recorded what flock they went to. If they
> went in the freezer they are not of concern cause it
> takes years for scrapies to become evident. I have had
> the same State vet all the years I have been on the
> program and really enjoy her visits. She is full of
> new information about sheep and if I have a question,
> she will research it and send me articles on that
> topic.
> If we all knew that we had pure Jacobs maybe I
> would think I did not need to follow the voluntary
> program but we know that in the past when Jacobs were
> rare, they were crossed with other breeds to increase
> their numbers. I am not sure that Dorpers, for
> example, do not have a scrapies tendency that is more
> than Jacobs. I remember reading an article about
> which breeds are more scrapie prone and some are very
> prone. I guess another way to eliminate such a factor
> is to buy sheep with letters further down the alphabet
> to make sure we know they are as pure Jacobs as
> possible.
> Another way is to genetically test your sheep to
> see if they are RR. I wonder how many of our sheep
> are really RR(most resistant to scrapies). That would
> be further proof that we could say Jacobs are less
> scrapie prone than other breeds. I think I will have
> the State vet genetically test my flock next year when
> she visits. I think that would be another marketing
> tool, to advertise that the parents are RR if you get
> that result...there are 5 other letter combinations
> that you could end up with however.
> Even in the voluntary program there is no
> requirement to test. The State will come in and test
> if you have scrapies in a sheep or a scrapies sheep is
> traced back to your flock by eartag. Then it is up to
> the State vet what happens to your flock and the more
> records you have, the more arguments you have in not
> eliminating all your sheep. This is my understanding
> from the State vet. This is why we go to the little
> more work of being on the voluntary program. It is
> still an individual shepherd decision.
> Even though I have been on the voluntary program
> for many years, I have gone back to zero several times
> to bring in out of state ewes. But, now feel I will
> only buy from flocks that are on a voluntary program
> so I eventually will get to the 5 years or keep my
> flock closed, except for rams. Victoria
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 05:55:59 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: Gooch <guschi73 at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] Jacob-list Digest, Vol 36,
>> Issue 16
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>> Regarding the Mandatory Scrapie program- I have a
>> feeling a word was missing from Mick's sentence- I
>> think it was supposed to read "you don't have to
>> TEST", but I could be wrong.
>>
>> The Mandatory program= tags only when leaving your
>> farm and carcasses may be checked at slaughter;
>> Voluntary program = test and tag by producer for 5
>> years to achieve "free" status, then only tag as
>> needed.
>>
>> Voluntary flocks don't need to be closed, but they
>> can only obtain ewes from other certified flocks.
>> Rams can be acquired from either type of flock (ewes
>> are the ones that transmit the disease).
>>
>> Here's the fact sheet for the voluntary program:
>>
>
http://www.aphis.usda.gov/animal_health/animal_diseases/scrapie/downloads/vs
fcp.pdf
>>
>> Shel
>>
>> ~*~*~*~*~*~
>> ~ Goochland Acres ~
>>
>> ~ Asylum Farm ~
>>
>>
>>
>> wrong! you do have to. there's been a MANDAYORY
>> scrapie program
>> for several years now! you dob\n't have to sign up
>> for the voluntary
>> program, which is more comprehensive and requires a
>> closed fkock, but MANDATORY
>> means MANDATORY! SORRY ABOUT TYPINGM USING OINE
>> FINGER, BROKEN WRIST,AMONG
>> OTHER THINGS. GOOGLE APHIS TO FIND OUT WHAT YPU
>> HAVE TO DO FOR MANDATORY
>> PROGRAM.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From:
>> Schmick54 at aol.com
>>
>> To: paigebowser at gmail.com ;
>> jacob-list at jacobsheep.com
>>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 11:01
>> PM
>>
>> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] scrape
>> program
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> It is a farm that regularly tests for scrapie.
>> All sheep these days
>> are required to have a tag identifying them in
>> case the sheep develops the
>> disease.You can find out about Scrapie by going
>> to: www.animalagriculture.org/scrapie.
>> It will tell you all you need to know and tell you
>> where to get your tags and
>> how to become a scrapie program farm. You don't
>> have to ! You just need the
>> tags. Scrapie is rather rare in Jacob Sheep. At
>> least, no cases have been
>> reported.
>>
>>
>>
>> Mick
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 15:37:29 -0400
> From: Linda <patchworkfibers at alltel.net>
> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] Scrapie
> To: Victoria da Roza <castlerockjacobs at yahoo.com>,
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> I know that Laura Burnside at Southwind in New York has quite a
> number of RR rams. Does anyone else do dna testing?
>
> Linda
>
> www.patchworkfibers.com
> Registered Jacob Sheep, Angora Rabbits, Handspun Yarn
>
>
>> Another way is to genetically test your sheep to
>> see if they are RR. I wonder how many of our sheep
>> are really RR(most resistant to scrapies). That would
>> be further proof that we could say Jacobs are less
>> scrapie prone than other breeds. I think I will have
>> the State vet genetically test my flock next year when
>> she visits. I think that would be another marketing
>> tool, to advertise that the parents are RR if you get
>> that result...there are 5 other letter combinations
>> that you could end up with however.
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