[ARGUS] Argus 5.0 on FreeBSD 14

[mike tancsa]

Hmmm, I am not sure. But if ChatGPT is to trusted,


In FreeBSD, machine-id and hostid are two different concepts serving 
distinct purposes:

Machine ID (machine-id):

The machine-id is a unique identifier assigned to a specific machine. It 
is often used by system services and applications to identify a 
particular instance of an operating system installation.
The machine-id is typically stored in the /etc/machine-id file. This 
file contains a UUID (Universally Unique Identifier) that is generated 
during the installation of the operating system.
The machine-id is used for various purposes, including identifying the 
system to systemd-based systems (like many modern Linux distributions) 
and some applications.
Host ID (hostid):

The hostid is a numeric identifier assigned to the host. It is often 
used by networking utilities and applications to identify a system on a 
network.
The hostid is usually a hexadecimal number and can be displayed using 
the hostid command. It is often used in conjunction with the MAC address 
of a system to create a unique identifier.
Unlike the machine-id, the hostid is not stored in a file and is 
generated based on the system's hardware during boot.
In summary, the primary difference is in their usage and purpose. The 
machine-id is a UUID used for system identification and is stored in a 
file, while the hostid is a numeric identifier used for networking 
purposes and is not stored as a file but generated based on the system's 
hardware.






On 1/11/2024 1:49 PM, Carter Bullard wrote:

> Hey Mike,
> I was happy with the 1 choice, and realized if you install dbus on FreeBSD, you can generate /var/lib/dbus/machine-id, which gave a reasonable 2 choices, but a third ?  ;o)
>
> On my machine /etc/hostid and /etc/machine-id are the same values, but hostid has the traditional UUID format … argus doesn’t care about the format so either work fine …
>
> Is /etc/hostid better than /etc/machine-id ???  Seems that the kernel install for FreeBSD now generates /etc/machine-id, but that seems to be a recent phenomenon  ???
>
> Carter
>
>
>> On Jan 11, 2024, at 1:31 PM, mike tancsa <mike at sentex.ca> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Carter,
>>
>>      Try the file /etc/hostid
>>
>>      ---Mike
>>
>> On 1/11/2024 1:27 PM, Carter Bullard wrote:
>>> Oh and to add a little context, we use “/var/lib/dbus/machine-id” to get the hostuuid on RedHat style machines …
>>> Carter
>>>
>>>> On Jan 11, 2024, at 1:24 PM, Carter Bullard <carter at qosient.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have argus-5.0 compiled and running on FreeBSD 14.0 …
>>>> Argus 5.0 has a new feature where it can use 128-bit UUIDs for the scrid, and the zero-conf strategy for argus running on endpoints is to use the endpoints hostuuid / machine-id as the argus srcid.
>>>> Linux, MacOS X, Windows, and BSD all have different ways of getting the hostuuid / machine-id.  For FreeBSD, there is /etc/machine-id, is this the best place to get the hostuuid ???
>>>> I have that working, and no real way of configuring it yet … is this the best way to get the endpoints UUID  ???
>>>>
>>>> Carter
>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 10, 2024, at 11:59 AM, Carter Bullard <carter at qosient.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey Mahlon,
>>>>> We have multiple votes for FreeBSD, so I’ll make sure it compiles cleanly and then offer it up for testing for FreeBSD, which should be in a few days.
>>>>> I’ll make it available through GitHub as a separate branch ...
>>>>>
>>>>> In testing argus-5.0, it is, by default, not compatible with argus-3.0 clients.  There is an option in argus.conf for argus-5.0 to generate 3.0 formatted data, and that will be what we’ll want to do at first.  At least its an incremental test at that point.
>>>>>
>>>>> Getting ready for the general argus-5.0 release,  if you have a short list of client programs that you would like to test, I’ll make a testing distro for the clients package at the same time …
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, and I hope that all is most excellent !!!!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Carter
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jan 10, 2024, at 11:37 AM, Mahlon E. Smith <mahlon at martini.nu> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 08, 2024, Carter Bullard wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I’m finishing the touchup’s on argus-5.0, and I’m testing on a few
>>>>>>> OS’s to make sure it makes and installs properly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The OS’s I’ve gotten through are:
>>>>>>> Mac OS Sonoma 14.x
>>>>>>> Ubuntu 23.10
>>>>>>> Windows 11 - using Cygwin
>>>>>>> Windows 10 - using Cygwin
>>>>>>> RedHat Server 3.10
>>>>>>> Rocky Linux 9.3
>>>>>>> Debian 12
>>>>>>> Fedora
>>>>>>> CentOS
>>>>>>> Kali LInux 2023.4
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are there any other OS’s that we should test on ??? [...] If there is one
>>>>>>> you would like tested, please send some email in the next few weeks …
>>>>>> Hello Carter!  I'd humbly request FreeBSD to be added to the testing
>>>>>> matrix. (cc'ed the port maintainer as well, not sure if he's on this list.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Very much looking forward to Argus 5!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Mahlon E. Smith
>>>>>> http://www.martini.nu/