[R129 SL] R129LIST Digest, Vol 30, Issue 7

[gregorio at weststargroup.net]

To those that wanted the phone number of the place that replaces rear 
windows on the canvas top of our beautiful cars, here is the number.  They 
are in the Chatsworth Area of Los Angeles. I've had it done (on a previous 
car) and they do very nice work at a reasonable cost.   Chatsworth Auto Tops 
818-882-5161.

Cheers,

Greg Conte
West Hills, CA
1991 500SL

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>   1. rear plastic window with bad scum (rett)

>   2. Re: rear plastic window with bad scum (Mark DeLuca)

>   3. Re: rear plastic window with bad scum (Peter Shelton)

>   4. Re: rear plastic window with bad scum (gregorio at weststargroup.net)

>   5. Re: rear plastic window with bad scum (Richard Deosaran)

>   6. Re: rear plastic window with bad scum (Richard Deosaran)

>   7. Re: rear plastic window with bad scum (Victor R. Lopez)

>   8. Re: rear plastic window with bad scum (gregorio at weststargroup.net)

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> Message: 1

> Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 14:01:46 -0700

> From: rett <rett.bryson at gmail.com>

> Subject: [R129 SL] rear plastic window with bad scum

> To: r129list at mbcoupes.com

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> Hi All,

> I was wondering if anyone could recommend a method or product to remove

> the

> brown "scum" that has accumulated on the back window.  It is especially

> bad

> on my car as I live on the beach in Southern California but do not have

> indoor parking.  If it cannot be removed, is it possible to just have

> the

> windows on the convertible replaced?

> Thanks,

> Rett

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> Message: 2

> Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 17:11:33 -0400

> From: "Mark DeLuca" <markdeluca at gmail.com>

> Subject: Re: [R129 SL] rear plastic window with bad scum

> To: "SL Mailing List" <r129list at mbcoupes.com>

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> Rett -

>

> First of all, get a garage for your SL!! Absolutely shameful for a car

> like

> this to be continuously exposed to the elements. Your car parked outside

> seaside would be like sending Paris Hilton to jail.

>

> I used Meguiar's Scratch X with excellent results, give it a try. It is

> an

> extremely mild abrasive that is meant to be applied by hand to remove

> small

> scratches from painted surfaces. I used it to completely renovate my

> rear

> windows, all yellow gone.

>

> FYI I found a lot of gunk on the inside of the rear windows, just doing

> the

> outside may not fix the problem. Also, be sure to keep from getting it

> on

> the top, it is awfully hard to remove from the fabric.

>

> Good luck,

>

> Mark D.

>

>

> On 6/5/07, rett <rett.bryson at gmail.com> wrote:

>>

>> Hi All,

>> I was wondering if anyone could recommend a method or product to

> remove

>> the brown "scum" that has accumulated on the back window.  It is

> especially

>> bad on my car as I live on the beach in Southern California but do not

> have

>> indoor parking.  If it cannot be removed, is it possible to just have

> the

>> windows on the convertible replaced?

>> Thanks,

>> Rett

>>

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> Message: 3

> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 09:19:10 +1200

> From: "Peter Shelton" <xtr204210 at xtra.co.nz>

> Subject: Re: [R129 SL] rear plastic window with bad scum

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> Hi Rett,

>

> If the scum is on the soft top, the brown 'scum' is usually not a scum

> at all!  It is a degradation of the 'plastic' translucent material when

> Ultraviolet light changes the state of the plastic.  No easy fix replace

> the panel or the top - a whole day job!

>

>

> If it is on the hard top rear window, there is also no easy fix.  These

> are usually laminate windows where the laminate is separating and air is

> affecting the plastic centre substrate.  The UV and air combined is

> travelling through the inner material and changing the colour!

>

> This happens a lot to vehicles left outside when the rubber seals  are

> aging.  I have had this same issue with my 1980 W123 (now dismantled for

> parts), and my 1988 W201(also dismantled for parts).

>

> Happy motoring in Southern California.   Getting colder here in New

> Zealand, and the Ski fields are getting dustings of about 200 mm of snow

> - I am about 3 hours drive from the nearest ski fields.

>

> For information, I just put some 'after market' 5 bar Mags (18 inch low

> profile tyres), in silver paint, and it has certainly changed the look

> of the W123.  The handling is slightly better, and the car took the

> corners in our Manawatu Gorge with ease. This stretch of road is quite

> windy, and is a great drive if you like lots of corners and refrain from

> looking at the beautiful scenery.  The road is 2 way, but narrow, and

> there are a number of trucks on this road.  It is also a fantastic ride

> on the Harley Davidson and then I return the journey back through a road

> where we have about 80 , x 1.42 megawatt wind turbines - quite large and

> stand about 60 m off the ground to the main hubs.

>

> All have a great day, Kind Regards from New Zealand, Peter S.

>  ----- Original Message ----- 

>  From: rett

>  To: r129list at mbcoupes.com

>  Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 9:01 AM

>  Subject: [R129 SL] rear plastic window with bad scum

>

>

>  Hi All,

>  I was wondering if anyone could recommend a method or product to

> remove the brown "scum" that has accumulated on the back window.  It is

> especially bad on my car as I live on the beach in Southern California

> but do not have indoor parking.  If it cannot be removed, is it possible

> to just have the windows on the convertible replaced?

>  Thanks,

>  Rett

>

>

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> Message: 4

> Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 13:27:19 -0800

> From: <gregorio at weststargroup.net>

> Subject: Re: [R129 SL] rear plastic window with bad scum

> To: "SL Mailing List" <r129list at mbcoupes.com>

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> I live here in the Chatsworth area of the Valley (So. Cal.), and there

> is convertible repair shop that actually cuts out the old window on your

> top and sews in a new one. They did a fantastic job on a car I had

> previously and I will be having them do it again on my current car.

> Very reasonable as I remember.  If interested, I will get you their

> number as I have to drive by the place to get it.

>

> Also, a car cover would work great too!

>

> Cheers,

>

> Greg Conte

> 1991 500SL

>  ----- Original Message ----- 

>  From: rett

>  To: r129list at mbcoupes.com

>  Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 1:01 PM

>  Subject: [R129 SL] rear plastic window with bad scum

>

>

>  Hi All,

>  I was wondering if anyone could recommend a method or product to

> remove the brown "scum" that has accumulated on the back window.  It is

> especially bad on my car as I live on the beach in Southern California

> but do not have indoor parking.  If it cannot be removed, is it possible

> to just have the windows on the convertible replaced?

>  Thanks,

>  Rett

>

>

>

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> Message: 5

> Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 17:45:31 -0400

> From: "Richard Deosaran" <richard.deosaran2 at sympatico.ca>

> Subject: Re: [R129 SL] rear plastic window with bad scum

> To: "'SL Mailing List'" <r129list at mbcoupes.com>

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>

> Try "lemon pledge", yes plain old lemon pledge for about 4$, let me know

> how

> it works, worked great on mine.

>

>

>

> Regards Richard.

>

>

>

>  _____

>

> From: r129list-bounces at mbcoupes.com

> [mailto:r129list-bounces at mbcoupes.com]

> On Behalf Of gregorio at weststargroup.net

> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 5:27 PM

> To: SL Mailing List

> Subject: Re: [R129 SL] rear plastic window with bad scum

>

>

>

> I live here in the Chatsworth area of the Valley (So. Cal.), and there

> is

> convertible repair shop that actually cuts out the old window on your

> top

> and sews in a new one. They did a fantastic job on a car I had

> previously

> and I will be having them do it again on my current car.  Very

> reasonable as

> I remember.  If interested, I will get you their number as I have to

> drive

> by the place to get it.

>

>

>

> Also, a car cover would work great too!

>

>

>

> Cheers,

>

>

>

> Greg Conte

>

> 1991 500SL

>

> ----- Original Message ----- 

>

> From: rett <mailto:rett.bryson at gmail.com>

>

> To: r129list at mbcoupes.com

>

> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 1:01 PM

>

> Subject: [R129 SL] rear plastic window with bad scum

>

>

>

> Hi All,

> I was wondering if anyone could recommend a method or product to remove

> the

> brown "scum" that has accumulated on the back window.  It is especially

> bad

> on my car as I live on the beach in Southern California but do not have

> indoor parking.  If it cannot be removed, is it possible to just have

> the

> windows on the convertible replaced?

> Thanks,

> Rett

>

>

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>

>

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> Message: 6

> Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 17:52:52 -0400

> From: "Richard Deosaran" <richard.deosaran2 at sympatico.ca>

> Subject: Re: [R129 SL] rear plastic window with bad scum

> To: "'SL Mailing List'" <r129list at mbcoupes.com>

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>

> Hi Rett,

>

> There is also a product by Meguiars called PlastX specially formulated

> to

> clean and polish plastic that should do the trick if the Lemon Pledge

> does

> not.

>

>

>

> Richard.

>

>

>

>  _____

>

> From: r129list-bounces at mbcoupes.com

> [mailto:r129list-bounces at mbcoupes.com]

> On Behalf Of gregorio at weststargroup.net

> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 5:27 PM

> To: SL Mailing List

> Subject: Re: [R129 SL] rear plastic window with bad scum

>

>

>

> I live here in the Chatsworth area of the Valley (So. Cal.), and there

> is

> convertible repair shop that actually cuts out the old window on your

> top

> and sews in a new one. They did a fantastic job on a car I had

> previously

> and I will be having them do it again on my current car.  Very

> reasonable as

> I remember.  If interested, I will get you their number as I have to

> drive

> by the place to get it.

>

>

>

> Also, a car cover would work great too!

>

>

>

> Cheers,

>

>

>

> Greg Conte

>

> 1991 500SL

>

> ----- Original Message ----- 

>

> From: rett <mailto:rett.bryson at gmail.com>

>

> To: r129list at mbcoupes.com

>

> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 1:01 PM

>

> Subject: [R129 SL] rear plastic window with bad scum

>

>

>

> Hi All,

> I was wondering if anyone could recommend a method or product to remove

> the

> brown "scum" that has accumulated on the back window.  It is especially

> bad

> on my car as I live on the beach in Southern California but do not have

> indoor parking.  If it cannot be removed, is it possible to just have

> the

> windows on the convertible replaced?

> Thanks,

> Rett

>

>

>  _____

>

>

> The MB Coupes Website!

> R129 SL Mailing List

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> Message: 7

> Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 15:15:30 -0700 (PDT)

> From: "Victor R. Lopez" <vrlopez254 at yahoo.com>

> Subject: Re: [R129 SL] rear plastic window with bad scum

> To: SL Mailing List <r129list at mbcoupes.com>

> Message-ID: <676024.9588.qm at web81903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

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>

> Hey Greg the number would be awesome to have.

>  thank in advance

>  Victor

>

> gregorio at weststargroup.net wrote:

>          I live here in the Chatsworth area of the Valley (So. Cal.),

> and there is convertible repair shop that actually cuts out the old

> window on your top and sews in a new one. They did a fantastic job on a

> car I had previously and I will be having them do it again on my current

> car.  Very reasonable as I remember.  If interested, I will get you

> their number as I have to drive by the place to get it.

>

>  Also, a car cover would work great too!

>

>  Cheers,

>

>  Greg Conte

>  1991 500SL

>    ----- Original Message ----- 

>  From: rett

>  To: r129list at mbcoupes.com

>  Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 1:01 PM

>  Subject: [R129 SL] rear plastic window with bad scum

>

>

> Hi All,

> I was wondering if anyone could recommend a method or product to remove

> the brown "scum" that has accumulated on the back window.  It is

> especially bad on my car as I live on the beach in Southern California

> but do not have indoor parking.  If it cannot be removed, is it possible

> to just have the windows on the convertible replaced?

> Thanks,

> Rett

>

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> Message: 8

> Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 14:22:14 -0800

> From: <gregorio at weststargroup.net>

> Subject: Re: [R129 SL] rear plastic window with bad scum

> To: "SL Mailing List" <r129list at mbcoupes.com>

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> You got it.  I'll be going by their shop in the next day or so.

>

> Cheers,

>

> Greg

>  ----- Original Message ----- 

>  From: Victor R. Lopez

>  To: SL Mailing List

>  Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 2:15 PM

>  Subject: Re: [R129 SL] rear plastic window with bad scum

>

>

>  Hey Greg the number would be awesome to have.

>  thank in advance

>  Victor

>

>  gregorio at weststargroup.net wrote:

>    I live here in the Chatsworth area of the Valley (So. Cal.), and

> there is convertible repair shop that actually cuts out the old window

> on your top and sews in a new one. They did a fantastic job on a car I

> had previously and I will be having them do it again on my current car.

> Very reasonable as I remember.  If interested, I will get you their

> number as I have to drive by the place to get it.

>

>    Also, a car cover would work great too!

>

>    Cheers,

>

>    Greg Conte

>    1991 500SL

>      ----- Original Message ----- 

>      From: rett

>      To: r129list at mbcoupes.com

>      Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 1:01 PM

>      Subject: [R129 SL] rear plastic window with bad scum

>

>

>      Hi All,

>      I was wondering if anyone could recommend a method or product to

> remove the brown "scum" that has accumulated on the back window.  It is

> especially bad on my car as I live on the beach in Southern California

> but do not have indoor parking.  If it cannot be removed, is it possible

> to just have the windows on the convertible replaced?

>      Thanks,

>      Rett

>

>

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