[R129 SL] R129LIST Digest, Vol 30, Issue 7

[David Elliott]

Hindsight is a product made for this use and I can vouch for the fact it
has almost miraculous properties. The screen benefits from annual
treatment and remains as new and also remains or even regains
flexibility.

See    www.hindsightuk.com

David Elliott 




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Today's Topics:

   1. rear plastic window with bad scum (rett)
   2. Re: rear plastic window with bad scum (Mark DeLuca)
   3. Re: rear plastic window with bad scum (Peter Shelton)
   4. Re: rear plastic window with bad scum (gregorio at weststargroup.net)
   5. Re: rear plastic window with bad scum (Richard Deosaran)
   6. Re: rear plastic window with bad scum (Richard Deosaran)
   7. Re: rear plastic window with bad scum (Victor R. Lopez)
   8. Re: rear plastic window with bad scum (gregorio at weststargroup.net)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 14:01:46 -0700
From: rett <rett.bryson at gmail.com>
Subject: [R129 SL] rear plastic window with bad scum
To: r129list at mbcoupes.com
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Hi All,
I was wondering if anyone could recommend a method or product to remove
the
brown "scum" that has accumulated on the back window.  It is especially
bad
on my car as I live on the beach in Southern California but do not have
indoor parking.  If it cannot be removed, is it possible to just have
the
windows on the convertible replaced?
Thanks,
Rett
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 17:11:33 -0400
From: "Mark DeLuca" <markdeluca at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [R129 SL] rear plastic window with bad scum
To: "SL Mailing List" <r129list at mbcoupes.com>
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Rett -

First of all, get a garage for your SL!! Absolutely shameful for a car
like
this to be continuously exposed to the elements. Your car parked outside
seaside would be like sending Paris Hilton to jail.

I used Meguiar's Scratch X with excellent results, give it a try. It is
an
extremely mild abrasive that is meant to be applied by hand to remove
small
scratches from painted surfaces. I used it to completely renovate my
rear
windows, all yellow gone.

FYI I found a lot of gunk on the inside of the rear windows, just doing
the
outside may not fix the problem. Also, be sure to keep from getting it
on
the top, it is awfully hard to remove from the fabric.

Good luck,

Mark D.


On 6/5/07, rett <rett.bryson at gmail.com> wrote:

>

> Hi All,

> I was wondering if anyone could recommend a method or product to

remove

> the brown "scum" that has accumulated on the back window.  It is

especially

> bad on my car as I live on the beach in Southern California but do not

have

> indoor parking.  If it cannot be removed, is it possible to just have

the

> windows on the convertible replaced?

> Thanks,

> Rett

>

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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 09:19:10 +1200
From: "Peter Shelton" <xtr204210 at xtra.co.nz>
Subject: Re: [R129 SL] rear plastic window with bad scum
To: "SL Mailing List" <r129list at mbcoupes.com>
Message-ID: <005801c7a7b7$28db8f80$0501010a at newbeb1e9bcff6>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Hi Rett,

If the scum is on the soft top, the brown 'scum' is usually not a scum
at all!  It is a degradation of the 'plastic' translucent material when
Ultraviolet light changes the state of the plastic.  No easy fix replace
the panel or the top - a whole day job!


If it is on the hard top rear window, there is also no easy fix.  These
are usually laminate windows where the laminate is separating and air is
affecting the plastic centre substrate.  The UV and air combined is
travelling through the inner material and changing the colour!

This happens a lot to vehicles left outside when the rubber seals  are
aging.  I have had this same issue with my 1980 W123 (now dismantled for
parts), and my 1988 W201(also dismantled for parts).

Happy motoring in Southern California.   Getting colder here in New
Zealand, and the Ski fields are getting dustings of about 200 mm of snow
- I am about 3 hours drive from the nearest ski fields. 

For information, I just put some 'after market' 5 bar Mags (18 inch low
profile tyres), in silver paint, and it has certainly changed the look
of the W123.  The handling is slightly better, and the car took the
corners in our Manawatu Gorge with ease. This stretch of road is quite
windy, and is a great drive if you like lots of corners and refrain from
looking at the beautiful scenery.  The road is 2 way, but narrow, and
there are a number of trucks on this road.  It is also a fantastic ride
on the Harley Davidson and then I return the journey back through a road
where we have about 80 , x 1.42 megawatt wind turbines - quite large and
stand about 60 m off the ground to the main hubs.  

All have a great day, Kind Regards from New Zealand, Peter S. 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: rett 
  To: r129list at mbcoupes.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 9:01 AM
  Subject: [R129 SL] rear plastic window with bad scum


  Hi All,
  I was wondering if anyone could recommend a method or product to
remove the brown "scum" that has accumulated on the back window.  It is
especially bad on my car as I live on the beach in Southern California
but do not have indoor parking.  If it cannot be removed, is it possible
to just have the windows on the convertible replaced? 
  Thanks,
  Rett



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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 13:27:19 -0800
From: <gregorio at weststargroup.net>
Subject: Re: [R129 SL] rear plastic window with bad scum
To: "SL Mailing List" <r129list at mbcoupes.com>
Message-ID: <006201c7a7b8$4c76e5b0$0a00a8c0 at GROUCHO>
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I live here in the Chatsworth area of the Valley (So. Cal.), and there
is convertible repair shop that actually cuts out the old window on your
top and sews in a new one. They did a fantastic job on a car I had
previously and I will be having them do it again on my current car.
Very reasonable as I remember.  If interested, I will get you their
number as I have to drive by the place to get it.

Also, a car cover would work great too!

Cheers,

Greg Conte
1991 500SL
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: rett 
  To: r129list at mbcoupes.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 1:01 PM
  Subject: [R129 SL] rear plastic window with bad scum


  Hi All,
  I was wondering if anyone could recommend a method or product to
remove the brown "scum" that has accumulated on the back window.  It is
especially bad on my car as I live on the beach in Southern California
but do not have indoor parking.  If it cannot be removed, is it possible
to just have the windows on the convertible replaced? 
  Thanks,
  Rett



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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 17:45:31 -0400
From: "Richard Deosaran" <richard.deosaran2 at sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: [R129 SL] rear plastic window with bad scum
To: "'SL Mailing List'" <r129list at mbcoupes.com>
Message-ID: <BAYC1-PASMTP05TIFpr000131d9 at BAYC1-PASMTP05.CEZ.ICE>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Try "lemon pledge", yes plain old lemon pledge for about 4$, let me know
how
it works, worked great on mine.

 

Regards Richard. 

 

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From: r129list-bounces at mbcoupes.com
[mailto:r129list-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
On Behalf Of gregorio at weststargroup.net
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 5:27 PM
To: SL Mailing List
Subject: Re: [R129 SL] rear plastic window with bad scum

 

I live here in the Chatsworth area of the Valley (So. Cal.), and there
is
convertible repair shop that actually cuts out the old window on your
top
and sews in a new one. They did a fantastic job on a car I had
previously
and I will be having them do it again on my current car.  Very
reasonable as
I remember.  If interested, I will get you their number as I have to
drive
by the place to get it.

 

Also, a car cover would work great too!

 

Cheers,

 

Greg Conte

1991 500SL

----- Original Message ----- 

From: rett <mailto:rett.bryson at gmail.com>  

To: r129list at mbcoupes.com 

Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 1:01 PM

Subject: [R129 SL] rear plastic window with bad scum

 

Hi All,
I was wondering if anyone could recommend a method or product to remove
the
brown "scum" that has accumulated on the back window.  It is especially
bad
on my car as I live on the beach in Southern California but do not have
indoor parking.  If it cannot be removed, is it possible to just have
the
windows on the convertible replaced? 
Thanks,
Rett


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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 17:52:52 -0400
From: "Richard Deosaran" <richard.deosaran2 at sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: [R129 SL] rear plastic window with bad scum
To: "'SL Mailing List'" <r129list at mbcoupes.com>
Message-ID: <BAYC1-PASMTP07hrbn10000f888 at BAYC1-PASMTP07.CEZ.ICE>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hi Rett,

There is also a product by Meguiars called PlastX specially formulated
to
clean and polish plastic that should do the trick if the Lemon Pledge
does
not.

 

Richard.

 

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From: r129list-bounces at mbcoupes.com
[mailto:r129list-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
On Behalf Of gregorio at weststargroup.net
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 5:27 PM
To: SL Mailing List
Subject: Re: [R129 SL] rear plastic window with bad scum

 

I live here in the Chatsworth area of the Valley (So. Cal.), and there
is
convertible repair shop that actually cuts out the old window on your
top
and sews in a new one. They did a fantastic job on a car I had
previously
and I will be having them do it again on my current car.  Very
reasonable as
I remember.  If interested, I will get you their number as I have to
drive
by the place to get it.

 

Also, a car cover would work great too!

 

Cheers,

 

Greg Conte

1991 500SL

----- Original Message ----- 

From: rett <mailto:rett.bryson at gmail.com>  

To: r129list at mbcoupes.com 

Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 1:01 PM

Subject: [R129 SL] rear plastic window with bad scum

 

Hi All,
I was wondering if anyone could recommend a method or product to remove
the
brown "scum" that has accumulated on the back window.  It is especially
bad
on my car as I live on the beach in Southern California but do not have
indoor parking.  If it cannot be removed, is it possible to just have
the
windows on the convertible replaced? 
Thanks,
Rett


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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 15:15:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Victor R. Lopez" <vrlopez254 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [R129 SL] rear plastic window with bad scum
To: SL Mailing List <r129list at mbcoupes.com>
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Hey Greg the number would be awesome to have.
  thank in advance
  Victor

gregorio at weststargroup.net wrote:
          I live here in the Chatsworth area of the Valley (So. Cal.),
and there is convertible repair shop that actually cuts out the old
window on your top and sews in a new one. They did a fantastic job on a
car I had previously and I will be having them do it again on my current
car.  Very reasonable as I remember.  If interested, I will get you
their number as I have to drive by the place to get it.
   
  Also, a car cover would work great too!
   
  Cheers,
   
  Greg Conte
  1991 500SL
    ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: rett 
  To: r129list at mbcoupes.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 1:01 PM
  Subject: [R129 SL] rear plastic window with bad scum
  

Hi All,
I was wondering if anyone could recommend a method or product to remove
the brown "scum" that has accumulated on the back window.  It is
especially bad on my car as I live on the beach in Southern California
but do not have indoor parking.  If it cannot be removed, is it possible
to just have the windows on the convertible replaced? 
Thanks,
Rett
    
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 14:22:14 -0800
From: <gregorio at weststargroup.net>
Subject: Re: [R129 SL] rear plastic window with bad scum
To: "SL Mailing List" <r129list at mbcoupes.com>
Message-ID: <006d01c7a7bf$f8a20bb0$0a00a8c0 at GROUCHO>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

You got it.  I'll be going by their shop in the next day or so.

Cheers,

Greg
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Victor R. Lopez 
  To: SL Mailing List 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 2:15 PM
  Subject: Re: [R129 SL] rear plastic window with bad scum


  Hey Greg the number would be awesome to have.
  thank in advance
  Victor

  gregorio at weststargroup.net wrote:
    I live here in the Chatsworth area of the Valley (So. Cal.), and
there is convertible repair shop that actually cuts out the old window
on your top and sews in a new one. They did a fantastic job on a car I
had previously and I will be having them do it again on my current car.
Very reasonable as I remember.  If interested, I will get you their
number as I have to drive by the place to get it.

    Also, a car cover would work great too!

    Cheers,

    Greg Conte
    1991 500SL
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: rett 
      To: r129list at mbcoupes.com 
      Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 1:01 PM
      Subject: [R129 SL] rear plastic window with bad scum


      Hi All,
      I was wondering if anyone could recommend a method or product to
remove the brown "scum" that has accumulated on the back window.  It is
especially bad on my car as I live on the beach in Southern California
but do not have indoor parking.  If it cannot be removed, is it possible
to just have the windows on the convertible replaced? 
      Thanks,
      Rett


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