[R129 SL] RE: R129LIST Digest, Vol 17, Issue 2
jan kuylaars
jan at rian-bv.nl
Wed May 31 07:04:29 EDT 2006
Soft top problem:
First control if the windows are going down.
Are the windows going down with the windows switches?
If not, the soft top cannot work.
Replace the fuses from the windows or repair the defect.
If the windows are normal working with their own switches, but they are not
going down with the softtop switch,
it is proberly the main control switch or the fuses or the control computer
ore wiring from the soft top.
If the windows going down it is important that the switches under the
windows are working, if the switches are not working the windows going down
and then the procedure from the softtop is halted.
So repair the switches under the windows in the doors.
Also there is a possibilty that ther is no oil in the resevoir for the
softtop under the sparewheel in the trunk.
Check before all !
Also a good remedy for cars from that age is to change ALL FUSES FOR NEW.
It cost only a few box and solve 50% off the problems.
Sometimes you cannot see that the fuse is broken during age and vibrations
ore has a high resistance.
We always look for burnout fuses!
good luck.
If neccesary i have the control list for all the switches from the softtop.
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2. Re: New car (George - R129)
3. Re: New car (chris wadlow)
4. New car (Patrick McMurray)
5. Re: New car (David Elliott)
6. Re: New car (Patrick McMurray)
7. Re: New car (gregorio at weststargroup.net)
8. Re: New car (Paul Samarin)
9. Re: New car (Alvamike at aol.com)
10. Re: New car (MBKindOfGuy)
11. SL500 (David Elliott)
12. RE: SL500 (Deneal Schilmeister (Portege))
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 17:20:17 +0100
From: "Patrick McMurray" <patrick.mcmurray at ntlworld.com>
Subject: [R129 SL] New car
To: <r129list at mbcoupes.com>
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Gentlemen
I am presently considering buying an SL (Ipresently have an SEC) and was
wondering if there is any particular model I should have a preference for
and if there were any major changes to spec. that would make a certain year
more preferable?.
Also I will be looking in the UK so are there any potential problems that
need looking out for.
Any help would be much appreciated.
Many thanks
Patrick
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 00:49:20 +0200
From: George - R129 <george.simpson.r129 at tiscali.fr>
Subject: Re: [R129 SL] New car
To: SL Mailing List <r129list at mbcoupes.com>
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Patrick - you definitely need an R129 500SL of 1990 which was the second
year of their production. Later models were strangled and MB were losing
quality but the first years saw 325 bhp and all the extras you could
possibly wish for as standard - memory seats/mirrors (3), cruise
control, leather, hard/soft top, automatic, a/c etc. etc., - hell, they
cost about EUR 90,000 new !!!
By chance, I happen to have one for sale. Burnt silver (a light metallic
beige) with tobacco brown leather seats and a dark brown hood. It has
the child seats and adaptive suspension options plus the original necker
Mexico 2000 and a Silversone Becker 10 CD player in the boot. It's LHD
and only 160K km with full MB service and EUR 4K spent in the last 3
years. Yours for EUR15,000 - a steal.
George Simpson
Cognac
Patrick McMurray wrote:
> Gentlemen
>
> I am presently considering buying an SL (Ipresently have an SEC) and
> was wondering if there is any particular model I should have a
> preference for and if there were any major changes to spec. that would
> make a certain year more preferable?.
> Also I will be looking in the UK so are there any potential problems
> that need looking out for.
>
>
> Any help would be much appreciated.
>
>
> Many thanks
>
>
> Patrick
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 07:26:33 +0000
From: "chris wadlow" <wadlowchris at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [R129 SL] New car
To: r129list at mbcoupes.com
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I agree. This is the best one to go for. I have a 1990 500SL in light
metalic blue which has only completed 55000 miles from new. It is a great
car and is not tied down with lots of unreliable computer controls. You
couldn't buy mine for 15000 euros or anything close.
Good luck with your search and if you want any specific advice from an
enthusiastic owner feel free to e-mail me.
Regards Chris.
>From: George - R129 <george.simpson.r129 at tiscali.fr>
>Reply-To: SL Mailing List <r129list at mbcoupes.com>
>To: SL Mailing List <r129list at mbcoupes.com>
>Subject: Re: [R129 SL] New car
>Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 00:49:20 +0200
>
>Patrick - you definitely need an R129 500SL of 1990 which was the second
>year of their production. Later models were strangled and MB were losing
>quality but the first years saw 325 bhp and all the extras you could
>possibly wish for as standard - memory seats/mirrors (3), cruise control,
>leather, hard/soft top, automatic, a/c etc. etc., - hell, they cost about
>EUR 90,000 new !!!
>
>By chance, I happen to have one for sale. Burnt silver (a light metallic
>beige) with tobacco brown leather seats and a dark brown hood. It has the
>child seats and adaptive suspension options plus the original necker Mexico
>2000 and a Silversone Becker 10 CD player in the boot. It's LHD and only
>160K km with full MB service and EUR 4K spent in the last 3 years. Yours
>for EUR15,000 - a steal.
>
>George Simpson
>Cognac
>
>
>
>
>Patrick McMurray wrote:
>>Gentlemen
>> I am presently considering buying an SL (Ipresently have an SEC) and was
>>wondering if there is any particular model I should have a preference for
>>and if there were any major changes to spec. that would make a certain
>>year more preferable?.
>>Also I will be looking in the UK so are there any potential problems that
>>need looking out for.
>> Any help would be much appreciated.
>> Many thanks
>> Patrick
>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 09:03:35 +0100
From: "Patrick McMurray" <patrick.mcmurray at ntlworld.com>
Subject: [R129 SL] New car
To: <r129list at mbcoupes.com>
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Many thanks for your help with this. Are there any particular problems to
look out for eg rust in certain areas, electronics etc.
George, I am based in the UK and would prefer a right hand drive, but thanks
for the offer.
thanks again
Patrick
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 10:53:00 +0000 GMT
From: "David Elliott" <david.elliott at macalister-elliott.com>
Subject: Re: [R129 SL] New car
To: "SL Mailing List" <r129list at mbcoupes.com>
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I would go for the facelift model, post 1995 for the 5 speed box.
David
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From: "Patrick McMurray" <patrick.mcmurray at ntlworld.com>
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 09:03:35
To:<r129list at mbcoupes.com>
Subject: [R129 SL] New car
Many thanks for your help with this. Are there any particular problems to
look out for eg rust in certain areas, electronics etc.
George, I am based in the UK and would prefer a right hand drive, but thanks
for the offer.
thanks again
Patrick
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 13:27:03 +0100
From: "Patrick McMurray" <patrick.mcmurray at ntlworld.com>
Subject: Re: [R129 SL] New car
To: <david.elliott at macalister-elliott.com>, "SL Mailing List"
<r129list at mbcoupes.com>
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Danny
What was actually changed post 1995 ?
Thanks
Patrick
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To: "SL Mailing List" <r129list at mbcoupes.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 11:53 AM
Subject: Re: [R129 SL] New car
>I would go for the facelift model, post 1995 for the 5 speed box.
> David
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Patrick McMurray" <patrick.mcmurray at ntlworld.com>
> Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 09:03:35
> To:<r129list at mbcoupes.com>
> Subject: [R129 SL] New car
>
> Many thanks for your help with this. Are there any particular problems to
> look out for eg rust in certain areas, electronics etc.
>
> George, I am based in the UK and would prefer a right hand drive, but
> thanks for the offer.
>
> thanks again
>
> Patrick
>
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 09:08:36 -0700
From: <gregorio at weststargroup.net>
Subject: Re: [R129 SL] New car
To: "SL Mailing List" <r129list at mbcoupes.com>
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Have to agree with all the writings here - I have a 1991 500SL with 42K
miles (triple black) and the car is a dream to drive, and has everything you
could possibly want in a car. The build quality is incredible, it's fast,
comfortable for long trips, and still an eye-catcher even here in car-crazy
Los Angeles, California. You see a lot of them for sale here, but usually
high-mileage cars. That one George has seems like a steal.
Cheers to all,
Greg
West Hills, CA
----- Original Message -----
From: "chris wadlow" <wadlowchris at hotmail.com>
To: <r129list at mbcoupes.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 12:26 AM
Subject: Re: [R129 SL] New car
>I agree. This is the best one to go for. I have a 1990 500SL in light
>metalic blue which has only completed 55000 miles from new. It is a great
>car and is not tied down with lots of unreliable computer controls. You
>couldn't buy mine for 15000 euros or anything close.
> Good luck with your search and if you want any specific advice from an
> enthusiastic owner feel free to e-mail me.
> Regards Chris.
>
>
>>From: George - R129 <george.simpson.r129 at tiscali.fr>
>>Reply-To: SL Mailing List <r129list at mbcoupes.com>
>>To: SL Mailing List <r129list at mbcoupes.com>
>>Subject: Re: [R129 SL] New car
>>Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 00:49:20 +0200
>>
>>Patrick - you definitely need an R129 500SL of 1990 which was the second
>>year of their production. Later models were strangled and MB were losing
>>quality but the first years saw 325 bhp and all the extras you could
>>possibly wish for as standard - memory seats/mirrors (3), cruise control,
>>leather, hard/soft top, automatic, a/c etc. etc., - hell, they cost about
>>EUR 90,000 new !!!
>>
>>By chance, I happen to have one for sale. Burnt silver (a light metallic
>>beige) with tobacco brown leather seats and a dark brown hood. It has the
>>child seats and adaptive suspension options plus the original necker
>>Mexico 2000 and a Silversone Becker 10 CD player in the boot. It's LHD and
>>only 160K km with full MB service and EUR 4K spent in the last 3 years.
>>Yours for EUR15,000 - a steal.
>>
>>George Simpson
>>Cognac
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Patrick McMurray wrote:
>>>Gentlemen
>>> I am presently considering buying an SL (Ipresently have an SEC) and
>>> was wondering if there is any particular model I should have a
>>> preference for and if there were any major changes to spec. that would
>>> make a certain year more preferable?.
>>>Also I will be looking in the UK so are there any potential problems that
>>>need looking out for.
>>> Any help would be much appreciated.
>>> Many thanks
>>> Patrick
>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
>>The MB Coupes Website!
>>R129 SL Mailing List
>
>
> The MB Coupes Website!
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>
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 10:47:39 -0700
From: Paul Samarin <pauls at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [R129 SL] New car
To: SL Mailing List <r129list at mbcoupes.com>
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I just recently purchased a 1990 500 SL; the soft top won't come out of
its compartment b/c the cover won't open. In playing around with it
for a couple of hours with my mechanic, we came to the conclusion
(hopeful guess, really) that the switch was only operating to close the
compartment whether we pushed forward or back. So, I've bought a
replacement switch to install.
Can anyone give advice on removal of the console for this installation?
Any other advice/suggestions very much appreciated.
Paul
On May 21, 2006, at 12:26 AM, chris wadlow wrote:
> I agree. This is the best one to go for. I have a 1990 500SL in light
> metalic blue which has only completed 55000 miles from new. It is a
> great car and is not tied down with lots of unreliable computer
> controls. You couldn't buy mine for 15000 euros or anything close.
> Good luck with your search and if you want any specific advice from an
> enthusiastic owner feel free to e-mail me.
> Regards Chris.
>
>
>> From: George - R129 <george.simpson.r129 at tiscali.fr>
>> Reply-To: SL Mailing List <r129list at mbcoupes.com>
>> To: SL Mailing List <r129list at mbcoupes.com>
>> Subject: Re: [R129 SL] New car
>> Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 00:49:20 +0200
>>
>> Patrick - you definitely need an R129 500SL of 1990 which was the
>> second year of their production. Later models were strangled and MB
>> were losing quality but the first years saw 325 bhp and all the
>> extras you could possibly wish for as standard - memory seats/mirrors
>> (3), cruise control, leather, hard/soft top, automatic, a/c etc.
>> etc., - hell, they cost about EUR 90,000 new !!!
>>
>> By chance, I happen to have one for sale. Burnt silver (a light
>> metallic beige) with tobacco brown leather seats and a dark brown
>> hood. It has the child seats and adaptive suspension options plus the
>> original necker Mexico 2000 and a Silversone Becker 10 CD player in
>> the boot. It's LHD and only 160K km with full MB service and EUR 4K
>> spent in the last 3 years. Yours for EUR15,000 - a steal.
>>
>> George Simpson
>> Cognac
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Patrick McMurray wrote:
>>> Gentlemen
>>> I am presently considering buying an SL (Ipresently have an SEC)
>>> and was wondering if there is any particular model I should have a
>>> preference for and if there were any major changes to spec. that
>>> would make a certain year more preferable?.
>>> Also I will be looking in the UK so are there any potential problems
>>> that need looking out for.
>>> Any help would be much appreciated.
>>> Many thanks
>>> Patrick
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ---
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
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>
>
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 14:23:00 EDT
From: Alvamike at aol.com
Subject: Re: [R129 SL] New car
To: r129list at mbcoupes.com
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With this car you need INFO. Go to _www.alldatadiy.com_
(http://www.alldatadiy.com) and sign up for the service. $14.95 per year.
Great deal. All the
info you can want and I doubt it is the switch. Read the manual carefully.
There are numerous micro switches that have to work for this automatic top
to work.
Mike
91 300SL
94 S500 Coupe
92 600SEL
87 560SEL
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 14:34:47 -0400
From: "MBKindOfGuy" <MBKindOfGuy at mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: [R129 SL] New car
To: "SL Mailing List" <r129list at mbcoupes.com>
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Mercedes of North America has the R129 DVD set on sale for about $85
(shipped). 1-800-FORMERCEDES.
List of available service manuals on optical media:
http://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/outside/7147/?requestedDocId=7147
Price list (extensive pdf):
http://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/outside/6745/images/alpha.pdf
Regards,
Howard M. Ginsberg
1998 SL500, 54KMiles
1993 300E, 117KMiles
1988 300E, Sold at 165KMiles
1986 300E, Sold at 180KMiles
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To: r129list at mbcoupes.com
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: [R129 SL] New car
With this car you need INFO. Go to www.alldatadiy.com and sign up for the
service. $14.95 per year. Great deal. All the info you can want and I
doubt it is the switch. Read the manual carefully. There are numerous
micro switches that have to work for this automatic top to work.
Mike
91 300SL
94 S500 Coupe
92 600SEL
87 560SEL
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 14:55:30 +0100
From: "David Elliott" <david.elliott at macalister-elliott.com>
Subject: [R129 SL] SL500
To: <r129list at mbcoupes.com>
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I have a bulb warning light on in my 1998 SL500 (43,000 miles), all bulbs
seem to be working, after a period (say half an hour to an hour) it usually
goes out. Anyone
come across this gremlin?
David
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 09:01:43 -0500
From: "Deneal Schilmeister (Portege)" <deneals at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: RE: [R129 SL] SL500
To: "'SL Mailing List'" <r129list at mbcoupes.com>
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I just had this on my car.
You check the lamps and THINK they are all working. but
For me it was ONE of the two rear license plate lamps that was out.
Easy to overlook without paying close attention.
___________________________
Deneal Schilmeister
St. Louis - Cincinnati
1997 SL500
http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm
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On Behalf Of David Elliott
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 8:56 AM
To: r129list at mbcoupes.com
Subject: [R129 SL] SL500
I have a bulb warning light on in my 1998 SL500 (43,000 miles), all bulbs
seem to be working, after a period (say half an hour to an hour) it usually
goes out. Anyone
come across this gremlin?
David
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