[SPAM] RE: [SPAM] RE: [R129 SL] Car folks stuff...

gregoiro@weststargroup.net r129list@mbcoupes.com
Sat, 17 Jul 2004 17:28:59 -0700


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Derek;

You are right - Toyota builds great stuff. Boring, but superior build =
quality. I was mostly talking about that thing that makes a Mercedes a =
Mercedes. The same goes for a Porsche or Ferrari, etc. - there's =
something inherent about the way they were put together.    I bought my =
wife a 2000 Isuzu Trooper  with all the bells & whistles and it's been a =
fantastic vehicle.  We put 180K miles on her other one.  No snob here =
either, but I don't think joining the Toyota Camry Club has the same =
pizzazz as the MBZ club!  So, there you go....

Cheers,

GC
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Derek Lee=20
  To: r129list@mbcoupes.com=20
  Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 9:23 AM
  Subject: [SPAM] RE: [SPAM] RE: [R129 SL] Car folks stuff...


  What's wrong with Toyota?  BTW, Lexus and Infiniti now own the JD =
Powers reports, whatever that's worth, but remember, MB used to always =
brag about being at the top of this report.  So when they fall down to =
20th, or whatever it is, suddenly the report has no value?  Interesting.

  Toyota also now enjoys the limited depreciation that MB once did in =
the glory years, but does so no longer.  That's what reliability and =
longevity do for you.  When Toyota started building the Tundra and =
Sequoia in the States, quality and reliability didn't suffer one iota.  =
MB surely cannot say that about the ML.

  Even though I'm an MB owner, I am not a snob about Toyota, Honda, or =
Nissan.  You gotta admit they build good stuff.  Now the Koreans, that =
may take some time...

  _________________________________________
  Derek Lee
  `86 W201 190E 2.3-16
  `90 R129 500SL
  TOYOTA `94 FZJ80 Land Cruiser + stuff
  TOYOTA `04 UZJ100 Land Cruiser, grocery-getter
  Elk Grove, CA, USA=20


    -----Original Message-----

    and keep it in beautiful condition in & out (people ask me if I ever =
drive it), but I assume most of us in this group are the same type of =
"car nuts".  Don't get me wrong, I like some of the later '90 models, =
but they don't seem to have that Mercedes feel - they feel almost =
(egads!) Lexus-like!  Give me that solid, powerful German feel anyday =
over an upscale Toyota! 
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Derek;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You are right - Toyota builds great =
stuff. Boring,=20
but superior build quality. I was mostly talking about that thing that=20
makes&nbsp;a Mercedes a Mercedes. The same goes for a Porsche or =
Ferrari, etc. -=20
there's something inherent about the way they were put=20
together.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I bought my wife a 2000&nbsp;Isuzu =
Trooper&nbsp;=20
with all the bells&nbsp;&amp; whistles and it's been a fantastic =
vehicle.&nbsp;=20
We put 180K miles on her other one.&nbsp; No snob here either, but I =
don't think=20
joining the Toyota Camry Club has the same&nbsp;pizzazz as the MBZ =
club!&nbsp;=20
So, there you go....</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cheers,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>GC</FONT></DIV>
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  <A title=3Ddclee@citlink.net href=3D"mailto:dclee@citlink.net">Derek =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, July 17, 2004 =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [SPAM] RE: [SPAM] RE: =
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  Car folks stuff...</DIV>
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  <DIV><SPAN class=3D752551516-17072004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>What's wrong with Toyota?&nbsp; BTW, Lexus and Infiniti now =
own the JD=20
  Powers reports, whatever that's worth,&nbsp;but remember,&nbsp;MB used =
to=20
  always brag about being at the top of this report.&nbsp; So when they =
fall=20
  down to 20th, or whatever it is, suddenly the report has no =
value?&nbsp;=20
  Interesting.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D752551516-17072004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D752551516-17072004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>Toyota also now enjoys the limited depreciation that MB once =
did in the=20
  glory years, but does so no longer.&nbsp; That's what reliability and=20
  longevity do for you.&nbsp; </FONT></SPAN><SPAN =
class=3D752551516-17072004><FONT=20
  face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>When Toyota started building the =
Tundra and=20
  Sequoia in the States, quality and reliability didn't suffer one =
iota.&nbsp;=20
  MB surely cannot say that about the ML.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D752551516-17072004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D752551516-17072004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Even=20
  though I'm an MB owner, I am not a snob about Toyota, Honda, or =
Nissan.&nbsp;=20
  You gotta admit they build good stuff.&nbsp; Now the Koreans, that may =
take=20
  some time...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D752551516-17072004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D752551516-17072004><FONT=20
  size=3D2>_________________________________________<BR>Derek Lee<BR>`86 =
W201 190E=20
  2.3-16<BR>`90 R129 500SL<BR><SPAN class=3D752551516-17072004>TOYOTA =
</SPAN>`94=20
  FZJ80 Land Cruiser + stuff<BR><SPAN class=3D752551516-17072004>TOYOTA =
</SPAN>`04=20
  UZJ100 Land Cruiser, grocery-getter<BR>Elk Grove, CA, USA</FONT> =
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and keep it in beautiful condition =
in &amp; out=20
    (people ask me if I ever drive it), but I assume most of us in this =
group=20
    are the same type of "car nuts".&nbsp; Don't get me wrong, I like =
some of=20
    the later '90 models, but they don't seem to have that Mercedes feel =
- they=20
    feel almost (egads!) Lexus-like!&nbsp; Give me that solid, powerful =
German=20
    feel anyday over&nbsp;an upscale Toyota!&nbsp;</FONT><FONT=20
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