[R129 SL] Re: R129LIST digest, Vol 1 #33 - 17 msgs
Michael Green
r129list@mbcoupes.com
Mon, 23 Jun 2003 21:21:25 -0700
Regarding that 1995 SL320 with the replaced head gasket, wiring harness, and
AC evaporator: Those are the three Achilles heels of the SL's. Since
they've been fixed, I'd say you're looking at a car that's good to go. I
just had to do the AC on my 300E - cost me $3K but worth it because I love
the car
Mike Green
1992 300E
1996 SL500
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> 1. Re: SL Power for 300SL (Adam Gage)
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> 3. Re: somebody talk me out of this (william hughes)
> 4. Re: somebody talk me out of this (Archie Morgan)
> 5. Re: somebody talk me out of this (Jack O. Ludwick)
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> 12. Re: somebody talk me out of this (Norm and Pat Waleke)
> 13. stained rag top (william hughes)
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> 15. Re: stained rag top (Craig Morris)
> 16. Re: stained rag top (John Collins)
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> Message: 1
> From: "Adam Gage" <ADAPL12@ADELPHIA.NET>
> To: <r129list@mbcoupes.com>
> Subject: Re: [R129 SL] SL Power for 300SL
> Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 18:16:08 -0700
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> MessageI have a 1990 300SL with 68,000 miles on it. The car has been =
> cared for, but my problem is this: There is a conspicuous lack of power =
> when the air conditioning is on and the car is warmed up.. There is a =
> lag time between the gas pedal and the engine response. This does not =
> happen when it's cold. It performs fine when the engine is cold, or I'm =
> driving with no AC, but that AC really drags on the engine. Does anyone =
> know of any performance enhancements that are available?
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: Cliff Sadler=20
> To: r129list@mbcoupes.com=20
> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 3:15 PM
> Subject: RE: [R129 SL] Shift Knobs WAS: overhead map light assembly =
> issues
>
>
> On the case.......
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com =
> [mailto:r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com]On Behalf Of Charles Held
> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 5:12 PM
> To: r129list@mbcoupes.com
> Subject: RE: [R129 SL] Shift Knobs WAS: overhead map light assembly =
> issues
>
>
> I have the "fused" knob (1992 500SL) and had to return one of those =
> Canadian wood ones you're talking about. If you figure out how to =
> accomodate the burlwood one please share with the list!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com =
> [mailto:r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Cliff Sadler
> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 5:53 PM
> To: r129list@mbcoupes.com
> Subject: RE: [R129 SL] overhead map light assembly issues
>
>
> Finally!
>
> Thanks. That was the info I was looking for. I'll report back with =
> what paint or other technique I use. I had a similar mess on the
> vanity mirror covers in the sun shades. I used Goo Gone (lots of =
> it, and carefully) to remove the gick (and the air bag warnings).
> They are now a nice Parchment color, and no longer collecting bugs =
> when I drive with the top down.
> I believe that Goo Gone will render the map light cover Black when =
> finished.
>
> Evenutally, though I'll probably spring for the Burlwood cover. =
> The source that I sent the link for is Performance Products.
>
> Stay tuned on the shifter replacement. Early ones use a fused on =
> knob, which will NOT screw off for replacements. I may
> have a source for shift levers. I'm testing one out this weekend, =
> and I have already gotten a real nice knob from Canada.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com =
> [mailto:r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com]On Behalf Of Rogers, Charlie
> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 3:50 PM
> To: 'r129list@mbcoupes.com'
> Subject: RE: [R129 SL] overhead map light assembly issues
>
>
> I had the same problem with my 1991 300SL. I takes about 15 to =
> 20 minutes to remove the cover and I just repainted the existing cover =
> with some spray paint I got at and auto parts store that matched the =
> interior (sort of).
> The toughest part about pulling the cover is to remove the rear =
> view mirror. It just pulls down (hard) to disengage from the retainer. =
> Then push the 2 light holders up (from the side) into the assembly and =
> you can remove the covers and bulbs. There are 2 screws (one in each =
> light well) that unscrew to remove the cover.
> Be careful, because there are wiring harnesses that need to be =
> unplugged from the mirror and the assembly. Once removed, the assembly =
> has electronics and sensors inside.
> For more details on this process, I got a subscription to =
> AlldataDIY for the manual for my car. If you go to their website, =
> www.alldatadiy.co, you can subscribe for 1 years use of their technical =
> data for about $28. It contains almost all the repair manual data for =
> the car and you can print out what you need.
> Charles
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cynthia Carr [mailto:cindi679@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 1:02 PM
> To: r129list@mbcoupes.com
> Subject: RE: [R129 SL] overhead map light assembly issues
>
>
> Mr. Sadler
>
> I guess I did not get your previous messages in reference to =
> the Map Light Assembly. Who was it that you contacted and stated that =
> they were on back order. =20
> Also, YES YES I am very interested in joining in with others =
> who may like to order the burlwood cover. I went to the link you =
> provided and I am so hooked!!!! I also want to change the steering =
> wheel and shift knob. Dreams Dreams I have Dreams..... Hopefully we =
> would get a discount. As I have stated before my Map light is only =
> working on one side as well as one of the switches has fell off and it =
> has that sticky feel to the outside and the paint seems to be coming =
> off. I can not take my top off with that crazy look. (smile) I want =
> to fix it and I went to the Mercedes Dealer in my area (NC) and the =
> price to replace it was almost 400.00 wow!!! Any Ideas. Maybe a used =
> one or maybe I can get this one fixed and just cover it with the Wood =
> finish which is what I am shooting for. Is there anyone out there who =
> can help??
>
> Cliff Sadler <sadler@comcast.net> wrote:
> just talked to them. These are on backorder until the end of =
> June at the earliest, so don't pull the old one off yet.
> I am being told conflicting info on how easy/hard it is to =
> remove this surround.=20
> Any mechanics on this list with an opinion?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com =
> [mailto:r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com]On Behalf Of Cliff Sadler
> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 9:37 AM
> To: r129list@mbcoupes.com
> Subject: RE: [R129 SL] overhead map light assembly issues
>
>
> OK,
> if you want to replace it, there is a source for a =
> burlwood cover at performance products. If you put in 500sl, it will not =
> come up though.
> I have asked them for installation instructions on this, =
> to see just how involved this is going to get.=20
> Here's the link for the burlwood version.
> =
> http://www.performanceproducts.com/ProductPage.aspx?ProductName=3DOverhea=
> d+Map+Light+Cover+(W129)&productid=3D109275&producttype=3D20
>
> If we have enough interest, perhaps we can get a quantity =
> discount with a single order.
> Cliff=20
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com =
> [mailto:r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com]On Behalf Of Cynthia Carr
> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 8:21 AM
> To: r129list@mbcoupes.com
> Subject: Re: [R129 SL] overhead map light assembly =
> issues
>
>
> Hey Guys I have the same problem!!!!! The paint, or =
> outer layer of plastic is horrible!! I also have what seems to be a =
> short. I guess I must replace the whole assembly. I even thought of =
> covering it with some factory matched burrolwood. Any Ideas??? =20
>
> Cliff Sadler <sadler@comcast.net> wrote:=20
>
> The map lights work fine.
>
> I have noticed that the paint, or outer layer of =
> plastic is real soft,=20
> I thought that maybe this was due to someone trying to =
> clean it
> with a chemical that softened the paint. Others have =
> said that
> it is a reaction to exposure to the sun, or heat. =
> Either way, it has to
> come off, and get refinished, or replaced.
>
> So, how do I remove this shell, so that I can do =
> something with it?
> I have found the 2 screws under the map lamp =
> assemblies, but there
> are more holding that unit under the windshield frame =
> that I cannot find.
> Do I have to remove the rear view mirror as well?
>
> TIA.
>
> 91 500SL
>
> > ATTACHMENT part 2 application/ms-tnef =
> name=3Dwinmail.dat=20
>
>
> Cynthia A. Richardson-Carr
>
> "Through God All Things are Possible"=20
>
>
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> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have a 1990 300SL with 68,000 miles =
> on it. =20
> The car has been cared for, but my problem is this: There is a =
> conspicuous=20
> lack of power when the air conditioning is on and the car is warmed up.. =
> There=20
> is a lag time between the gas pedal and the engine response. This =
> does not=20
> happen when it's cold. </FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It =
> performs fine=20
> when the engine is cold, or I'm driving with no AC, but that AC really =
> drags on=20
> the engine. Does anyone know of any performance enhancements that =
> are=20
> available?</FONT></DIV>
> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
> style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
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> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
> <DIV=20
> style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
> black"><B>From:</B>=20
> <A title=3Dsadler@comcast.net href=3D"mailto:sadler@comcast.net">Cliff =
> Sadler</A>=20
> </DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
> title=3Dr129list@mbcoupes.com=20
> href=3D"mailto:r129list@mbcoupes.com">r129list@mbcoupes.com</A> </DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 04, 2003 =
> 3:15=20
> PM</DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [R129 SL] Shift =
> Knobs WAS:=20
> overhead map light assembly issues</DIV>
> <DIV><BR></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=3D018121522-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
> color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>On=20
> the case.......</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=3D018121522-04062003></SPAN> </DIV>
> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
> face=3DTahoma=20
> size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A=20
> =
> href=3D"mailto:r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com">r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com</=
> A>=20
> [mailto:r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Charles=20
> Held<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 04, 2003 5:12 PM<BR><B>To:</B> =
> <A=20
> =
> href=3D"mailto:r129list@mbcoupes.com">r129list@mbcoupes.com</A><BR><B>Sub=
> ject:</B>=20
> RE: [R129 SL] Shift Knobs WAS: overhead map light assembly=20
> issues<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
> class=3D361191022-04062003>I=20
> have the "fused" knob (1992 500SL) and had to return one of =
> those=20
> Canadian wood ones you're talking about. If you figure out how =
> to=20
> accomodate the burlwood one please share with the =
> list!</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
> class=3D361191022-04062003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
> class=3D361191022-04062003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV></DIV>
> <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr =
> align=3Dleft><FONT=20
> face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
> r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com [mailto:r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com] =
> <B>On=20
> Behalf Of </B>Cliff Sadler<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 04, =
> 2003 5:53=20
> PM<BR><B>To:</B> r129list@mbcoupes.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: =
> [R129 SL]=20
> overhead map light assembly issues<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=3D275384321-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
> color=3D#0000ff=20
> size=3D2>Finally!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=3D275384321-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
> color=3D#0000ff=20
> size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=3D275384321-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
> color=3D#0000ff=20
> size=3D2>Thanks. That was the info I was looking for. I'll report =
> back with=20
> what paint or other technique I use. I had a similar mess on=20
> the</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=3D275384321-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
> color=3D#0000ff=20
> size=3D2>vanity mirror covers in the sun shades. I used Goo Gone =
> (lots of=20
> it, and carefully) to remove the gick (and the air bag=20
> warnings).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=3D275384321-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
> color=3D#0000ff=20
> size=3D2>They are now a nice Parchment color, and no longer =
> collecting bugs=20
> when I drive with the top down.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=3D275384321-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
> color=3D#0000ff=20
> size=3D2>I believe that Goo Gone will render the map light cover =
> Black when=20
> finished.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=3D275384321-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
> color=3D#0000ff=20
> size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=3D275384321-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
> color=3D#0000ff=20
> size=3D2>Evenutally, though I'll probably spring for the Burlwood=20
> cover. The source that I sent the link for is Performance=20
> Products.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=3D275384321-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
> color=3D#0000ff=20
> size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=3D275384321-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
> color=3D#0000ff=20
> size=3D2>Stay tuned on the shifter replacement. Early ones use a =
> fused on=20
> knob, which will NOT screw off for replacements. I =
> may</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=3D275384321-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
> color=3D#0000ff=20
> size=3D2>have a source for shift levers. I'm testing one out this =
> weekend,=20
> and I have already gotten a real nice knob from=20
> Canada.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=3D275384321-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
> color=3D#0000ff=20
> size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=3D275384321-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
> color=3D#0000ff=20
> size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
> face=3DTahoma=20
> size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
> r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com =
> [mailto:r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com]<B>On=20
> Behalf Of </B>Rogers, Charlie<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June =
> 04, 2003=20
> 3:50 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'r129list@mbcoupes.com'<BR><B>Subject:</B> =
> RE:=20
> [R129 SL] overhead map light assembly =
> issues<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=3D140333820-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
> color=3D#0000ff=20
> size=3D2>I had the same problem with my 1991 300SL. I =
> takes about 15=20
> to 20 minutes to remove the cover and I just repainted the =
>
> existing cover with some spray paint I got at and auto parts =
> store that=20
> matched the interior (sort of).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=3D140333820-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
> color=3D#0000ff=20
> size=3D2>The toughest part about pulling the cover is to remove =
> the rear=20
> view mirror. It just pulls down (hard) to disengage from the=20
> retainer. Then push the 2 light holders up (from the side) =
> into=20
> the assembly and you can remove the covers and bulbs. =
> There are 2=20
> screws (one in each light well) that unscrew to remove the=20
> cover.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=3D140333820-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
> color=3D#0000ff=20
> size=3D2>Be careful, because there are wiring harnesses that =
> need to be=20
> unplugged from the mirror and the assembly. Once removed, =
> the=20
> assembly has electronics and sensors inside.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=3D140333820-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
> color=3D#0000ff=20
> size=3D2>For more details on this process, I got a subscription =
> to=20
> AlldataDIY for the manual for my car. If you go to their =
> website,=20
> <A href=3D"http://www.alldatadiy.co">www.alldatadiy.co</A>, you =
> can=20
> subscribe for 1 years use of their technical data for =
> about =20
> $28. It contains almost all the repair manual data for the =
> car and=20
> you can print out what you need.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=3D140333820-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
> color=3D#0000ff=20
> size=3D2>Charles</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=3D140333820-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
> color=3D#0000ff=20
> size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=3D140333820-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
> color=3D#0000ff=20
> size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=3D140333820-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
> color=3D#0000ff=20
> size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=3D140333820-04062003><FONT face=3DArial =
> color=3D#0000ff=20
> size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
> <BLOCKQUOTE>
> <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
> face=3DTahoma=20
> size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Cynthia =
> Carr=20
> [mailto:cindi679@yahoo.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June =
> 04, 2003=20
> 1:02 PM<BR><B>To:</B> r129list@mbcoupes.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> =
> RE:=20
> [R129 SL] overhead map light assembly =
> issues<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV>Mr. Sadler</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>I guess I did not get your previous messages in reference =
>
> to the Map Light Assembly. Who was it that you =
> contacted=20
> and stated that they were on back order. </DIV>
> <DIV>Also, YES YES I am very interested in joining in with =
> others who=20
> may like to order the burlwood cover. I went to the link =
> you=20
> provided and I am so hooked!!!! I also want to change =
> the=20
> steering wheel and shift knob. Dreams Dreams I have=20
> Dreams..... Hopefully we would get a discount. As I =
> have=20
> stated before my Map light is only working on one side =
> as well=20
> as one of the switches has fell off and it has that sticky =
> feel to the=20
> outside and the paint seems to be coming off. I =
> can not=20
> take my top off with that crazy look. (smile) I want to =
> fix it=20
> and I went to the Mercedes Dealer in my area (NC) and the =
> price to=20
> replace it was almost 400.00 wow!!! Any Ideas. =
> Maybe a=20
> used one or maybe I can get this one fixed and just cover it =
> with the=20
> Wood finish which is what I am shooting for. Is there =
> anyone out=20
> there who can help??<BR><BR><B><I>Cliff Sadler=20
> <sadler@comcast.net></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
> <BLOCKQUOTE=20
> style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: =
> #1010ff 2px solid">
> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2723.2500" name=3DGENERATOR>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
> class=3D807044614-02062003>just talked to them. These are on =
> backorder=20
> until the end of June at the earliest, so don't pull the old =
> one off=20
> yet.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
> class=3D807044614-02062003>I am being told conflicting info =
> on how=20
> easy/hard it is to remove this surround. =
> </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
> class=3D807044614-02062003>Any mechanics on this list with =
> an=20
> opinion?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
> class=3D807044614-02062003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr =
> align=3Dleft><FONT=20
> face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original =
> Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
> r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com=20
> [mailto:r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com]<B>On Behalf Of =
> </B>Cliff=20
> Sadler<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 02, 2003 9:37 =
> AM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
> r129list@mbcoupes.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [R129 SL] =
> overhead=20
> map light assembly issues<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=3D795553414-02062003><FONT face=3DArial =
> color=3D#0000ff=20
> size=3D2>OK,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=3D795553414-02062003><FONT face=3DArial =
> color=3D#0000ff=20
> size=3D2>if you want to replace it, there is a source for =
> a burlwood=20
> cover at performance products. If you put in 500sl, it =
> will not=20
> come up though.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=3D795553414-02062003><FONT face=3DArial =
> color=3D#0000ff=20
> size=3D2>I have asked them for installation instructions =
> on this, to=20
> see just how involved this is going to get. =
> </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=3D795553414-02062003><FONT face=3DArial =
> color=3D#0000ff=20
> size=3D2>Here's the link for the burlwood=20
> version.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=3D795553414-02062003><FONT face=3DArial =
> color=3D#0000ff=20
> size=3D2><A=20
> =
>
href=3D"http://www.performanceproducts.com/ProductPage.aspx?ProductName=3D=
> Overhead+Map+Light+Cover+(W129)&productid=3D109275&producttype=3D=
> 20">http://www.performanceproducts.com/ProductPage.aspx?ProductName=3DOve=
> rhead+Map+Light+Cover+(W129)&productid=3D109275&producttype=3D20<=
> /A></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=3D795553414-02062003><FONT face=3DArial =
> color=3D#0000ff=20
> size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=3D795553414-02062003><FONT face=3DArial =
> color=3D#0000ff=20
> size=3D2>If we have enough interest, perhaps we can get a =
> quantity=20
> discount with a single order.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=3D795553414-02062003><FONT =
> face=3DArial><FONT=20
> color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2>Cliff<SPAN=20
> =
> class=3D807044614-02062003> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV=
> >
> <DIV><SPAN class=3D795553414-02062003><FONT face=3DArial =
> color=3D#0000ff=20
> size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
> <BLOCKQUOTE>
> <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr =
> align=3Dleft><FONT=20
> face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original =
> Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
> r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com=20
> [mailto:r129list-admin@mbcoupes.com]<B>On Behalf Of =
> </B>Cynthia=20
> Carr<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 02, 2003 8:21 =
> AM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
> r129list@mbcoupes.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [R129 SL] =
> overhead=20
> map light assembly issues<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV>Hey Guys I have the same problem!!!!! The paint, or =
> outer=20
> layer of plastic is horrible!! I also have what =
> seems to=20
> be a short. I guess I must replace the whole=20
> assembly. I even thought of covering it with some =
> factory=20
> matched burrolwood. Any Ideas??? =
> <BR><BR><B><I>Cliff=20
> Sadler <sadler@comcast.net></I></B> wrote:=20
> <BLOCKQUOTE=20
> style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
> BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"><BR>The=20
> map lights work fine.<BR><BR>I have noticed that the =
> paint, or=20
> outer layer of plastic is real soft, <BR>I thought =
> that maybe=20
> this was due to someone trying to clean it<BR>with a =
> chemical=20
> that softened the paint. Others have said that<BR>it =
> is a=20
> reaction to exposure to the sun, or heat. Either way, =
> it has=20
> to<BR>come off, and get refinished, or =
> replaced.<BR><BR>So,=20
> how do I remove this shell, so that I can do something =
> with=20
> it?<BR>I have found the 2 screws under the map lamp=20
> assemblies, but there<BR>are more holding that unit =
> under the=20
> windshield frame that I cannot find.<BR>Do I have to =
> remove=20
> the rear view mirror as well?<BR><BR>TIA.<BR><BR>91=20
> 500SL<BR><BR>> ATTACHMENT part 2 =
> application/ms-tnef=20
> name=3Dwinmail.dat </BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><BR>Cynthia =
> A.=20
> Richardson-Carr<BR><BR>"Through God All Things are =
> Possible"=20
> <P>
> <HR SIZE=3D1>
> Do you Yahoo!?<BR>Free <A=20
> =
> href=3D"http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/tag/*http://calendar.yahoo.com">on=
> line=20
> calendar</A> with sync to=20
> =
> Outlook(TM).</BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>Cynthia A.=20
> Richardson-Carr<BR><BR>"Through God All Things are Possible"=20
> <P><BR>
> <HR SIZE=3D1>
> Do you Yahoo!?<BR><B><A href=3D"http://news.yahoo.com/">Yahoo! =
>
> News</A></B> - Today's headlines=20
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> </BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY><=
> /HTML>
>
> ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C32AC5.5EF208B0--
>
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 2
> From: <deneals@mbz.org>
> To: <r129list@mbcoupes.com>
> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 09:00:46 -0500
> Subject: [R129 SL] somebody talk me out of this
> Reply-To: r129list@mbcoupes.com
>
> Recent mid-life crisis has me desiring a sporty car, and a recent friend's
> death (urge to do it now or fuhgeddaboutit) leads to the desire for a 1991
> 300SL.
>
> Most desirable is one in Charlottesville; red over tan, nicely kept w 5
> speed manual 95k miles
>
> OR
>
> 1991 blue over tan auto w 45k miles
>
> Anybody want to help me decide which car or talk me out of it? What do
you
> a fair price would be for either. KBB has these cars @$13-14k; of course
> both owners want lots more.
>
> -- --
> Deneal Schilmeister
> 1987 300TD 272k
> St. Louis, Missouri USA
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 10:43:37 -0400
> From: william hughes <jennian@ziplink.net>
> To: r129list@mbcoupes.com
> Subject: Re: [R129 SL] somebody talk me out of this
> Reply-To: r129list@mbcoupes.com
>
> an sl makes a great mid life crisis car
> had a freind die last summer at 55 - 3 months into retirement
> got a 95 sl500 in november - it's great therapy and lots of fun
> good luck
>
> deneals@mbz.org wrote:
>
> >Recent mid-life crisis has me desiring a sporty car, and a recent
friend's
> >death (urge to do it now or fuhgeddaboutit) leads to the desire for a
1991
> >300SL.
> >
> >Most desirable is one in Charlottesville; red over tan, nicely kept w 5
> >speed manual 95k miles
> >
> >OR
> >
> >1991 blue over tan auto w 45k miles
> >
> >Anybody want to help me decide which car or talk me out of it? What do
you
> >a fair price would be for either. KBB has these cars @$13-14k; of course
> >both owners want lots more.
> >
> >-- --
> >Deneal Schilmeister
> >1987 300TD 272k
> >St. Louis, Missouri USA
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >The MB Coupes Website!
> >R129 SL Mailing List
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 4
> From: "Archie Morgan" <archie@trellis.net>
> To: <r129list@mbcoupes.com>
> Subject: Re: [R129 SL] somebody talk me out of this
> Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 22:59:22 -0400
> Reply-To: r129list@mbcoupes.com
>
> I cannot help you choose between the cars Deneal but I will say "PICK ONE
OF
> THEM"!
> You probably deserve it.
> Thanks,
> Archie
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <deneals@mbz.org>
> To: <r129list@mbcoupes.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 10:00 AM
> Subject: [R129 SL] somebody talk me out of this
>
>
> > Recent mid-life crisis has me desiring a sporty car, and a recent
friend's
> > death (urge to do it now or fuhgeddaboutit) leads to the desire for a
1991
> > 300SL.
> >
> > Most desirable is one in Charlottesville; red over tan, nicely kept w 5
> > speed manual 95k miles
> >
> > OR
> >
> > 1991 blue over tan auto w 45k miles
> >
> > Anybody want to help me decide which car or talk me out of it? What do
> you
> > a fair price would be for either. KBB has these cars @$13-14k; of
course
> > both owners want lots more.
> >
> > -- --
> > Deneal Schilmeister
> > 1987 300TD 272k
> > St. Louis, Missouri USA
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The MB Coupes Website!
> > R129 SL Mailing List
> >
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 5
> From: "Jack O. Ludwick" <jacko@tyler.net>
> To: <r129list@mbcoupes.com>
> Subject: Re: [R129 SL] somebody talk me out of this
> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 11:05:48 -0500
> Reply-To: r129list@mbcoupes.com
>
> I just last Aug bought an SL 320 1997 with 37,000 miles and Starmarked.
I
> am 69 years of age. I say go for it. Get it and enjoy it while you can.
> A very old one with lots of miles can eat you alive and you will soon
spend
> more than you paid. Jack Ludwick Tyler Texas
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "william hughes" <jennian@ziplink.net>
> To: <r129list@mbcoupes.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 9:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [R129 SL] somebody talk me out of this
>
>
> > an sl makes a great mid life crisis car
> > had a freind die last summer at 55 - 3 months into retirement
> > got a 95 sl500 in november - it's great therapy and lots of fun
> > good luck
> >
> > deneals@mbz.org wrote:
> >
> > >Recent mid-life crisis has me desiring a sporty car, and a recent
> friend's
> > >death (urge to do it now or fuhgeddaboutit) leads to the desire for a
> 1991
> > >300SL.
> > >
> > >Most desirable is one in Charlottesville; red over tan, nicely kept w 5
> > >speed manual 95k miles
> > >
> > >OR
> > >
> > >1991 blue over tan auto w 45k miles
> > >
> > >Anybody want to help me decide which car or talk me out of it? What do
> you
> > >a fair price would be for either. KBB has these cars @$13-14k; of
course
> > >both owners want lots more.
> > >
> > >-- --
> > >Deneal Schilmeister
> > >1987 300TD 272k
> > >St. Louis, Missouri USA
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >The MB Coupes Website!
> > >R129 SL Mailing List
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > The MB Coupes Website!
> > R129 SL Mailing List
> >
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 6
> From: Kirk Jones <Kirk.Jones@rci.rogers.com>
> To: "'r129list@mbcoupes.com'" <r129list@mbcoupes.com>
> Subject: RE: [R129 SL] somebody talk me out of this
> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 12:22:35 -0400
> Reply-To: r129list@mbcoupes.com
>
> Yes the oldies can run you some money but they are worth it! Just picked
up
> an 87 560sl with 195k in excellent shape and find myself smiling every
time
> I turn the key, yes I shudder when I think what it could cost but that
> feeling is quickly lost in the wind with more of my hair.
>
> Kirk Jones Toronto, 47 & smiling
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jack O. Ludwick [mailto:jacko@tyler.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 12:06 PM
> To: r129list@mbcoupes.com
> Subject: Re: [R129 SL] somebody talk me out of this
>
> I just last Aug bought an SL 320 1997 with 37,000 miles and Starmarked.
I
> am 69 years of age. I say go for it. Get it and enjoy it while you can.
> A very old one with lots of miles can eat you alive and you will soon
spend
> more than you paid. Jack Ludwick Tyler Texas
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "william hughes" <jennian@ziplink.net>
> To: <r129list@mbcoupes.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 9:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [R129 SL] somebody talk me out of this
>
>
> > an sl makes a great mid life crisis car
> > had a freind die last summer at 55 - 3 months into retirement
> > got a 95 sl500 in november - it's great therapy and lots of fun
> > good luck
> >
> > deneals@mbz.org wrote:
> >
> > >Recent mid-life crisis has me desiring a sporty car, and a recent
> friend's
> > >death (urge to do it now or fuhgeddaboutit) leads to the desire for a
> 1991
> > >300SL.
> > >
> > >Most desirable is one in Charlottesville; red over tan, nicely kept w 5
> > >speed manual 95k miles
> > >
> > >OR
> > >
> > >1991 blue over tan auto w 45k miles
> > >
> > >Anybody want to help me decide which car or talk me out of it? What do
> you
> > >a fair price would be for either. KBB has these cars @$13-14k; of
course
> > >both owners want lots more.
> > >
> > >-- --
> > >Deneal Schilmeister
> > >1987 300TD 272k
> > >St. Louis, Missouri USA
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >The MB Coupes Website!
> > >R129 SL Mailing List
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > The MB Coupes Website!
> > R129 SL Mailing List
> >
>
>
> The MB Coupes Website!
> R129 SL Mailing List
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 13:02:45 -0700
> To: r129list@mbcoupes.com
> From: Tom Reynolds <kjtar@earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [R129 SL] somebody talk me out of this
> Reply-To: r129list@mbcoupes.com
>
> Get the stick, you can live for now, and when you get tired of shifting,
> sell it and get an automatic.
> My .02
> Tom Reynolds
> Hereford, AZ
>
> At 09:00 AM 06/10/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> >Recent mid-life crisis has me desiring a sporty car, and a recent
friend's
> >death (urge to do it now or fuhgeddaboutit) leads to the desire for a
1991
> >300SL.
> >
> >Most desirable is one in Charlottesville; red over tan, nicely kept w 5
> >speed manual 95k miles
> >
> >OR
> >
> >1991 blue over tan auto w 45k miles
> >
> >Anybody want to help me decide which car or talk me out of it? What do
you
> >a fair price would be for either. KBB has these cars @$13-14k; of course
> >both owners want lots more.
> >
> >-- --
> >Deneal Schilmeister
> >1987 300TD 272k
> >St. Louis, Missouri USA
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >The MB Coupes Website!
> >R129 SL Mailing List
> >
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 16:11:51 -0500
> Subject: Re: [R129 SL] somebody talk me out of this
> From: "Deneal Schilmeister (iMac)" <deneals@mbz.org>
> To: <r129list@mbcoupes.com>
> Reply-To: r129list@mbcoupes.com
>
> On 6/10/03 15:02, "Tom Reynolds" <kjtar@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > Get the stick, you can live for now, and when you get tired of shifting,
> > sell it and get an automatic.
> > My .02
> > Tom Reynolds
> > Hereford, AZ
>
> Thanks everyone. And Tom, I agree, BUT
>
> I just came back from looking at a 95 SL320. One thing about this car, at
> 94k miles, it just came off of Starmark, and before it did some large
items
> were replaced. These items, replaced in the last 3000 miles are:
> 1)replace cylinder head gasket;
> 2) replaced alternator electrical harness;
> 3) replaced AC evaporator
>
> 19,000 miles ago the lower seal, cylinder head front was replaced
>
>
> A very straight, well cared for 2 owner car. Asking $19,900 at an MB
> dealer.
>
> Have to see what SWMBO says about it.
>
> Thanks again
>
> +++++++++--
> Deneal Schilmeister
> MBCA Gateway 1991-2003
> 1979 450SEL 1991 - 2000 (66k to 187k) Sold Canadian!
> 1987 300TD 1998 - current (186k to 272k...
> http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/300TD_Evap0.htm
> http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/deneal.htm>
> http://homepage.mac.com/deneals
> +++++++++--
>
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 9
> From: "Steve Sims" <Steve@Sims.NU>
> To: <r129list@mbcoupes.com>
> Subject: RE: [R129 SL] somebody talk me out of this
> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 19:04:24 -0400
> Reply-To: r129list@mbcoupes.com
>
> I've gotta say "Go for the 5-Speed"!!! I'd really like to have the R129
> with a stick, and I wish one was available in the 5.0 engine.
>
> If you need someone to take a look at the one in Charlottesville, let me
> know. I'd take a run up the road.
>
> And, on the other hand, if you decide you're not interested in the C-Ville
> one, could you pass me the owner's information off-list? A guy at work
was
> T-boned in his Miata the other day, and he's looking for another rag-top.
> But a better one than the Miata. (It folded *really* badly!) Fortunately
> he and his wife walked away.
>
> ...sjs...
> Richmond, VA
> '97 SL500
> &c.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Deneal Schilmeister
>
> Recent mid-life crisis has me desiring a sporty car, and a recent friend's
> death (urge to do it now or fuhgeddaboutit) leads to the desire for a 1991
> 300SL.
>
> Most desirable is one in Charlottesville; red over tan, nicely kept w 5
> speed manual 95k miles
>
> Anybody want to help me decide which car or talk me out of it? What do
you
> a fair price would be for either. KBB has these cars @$13-14k; of course
> both owners want lots more.
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 16:37:54 -0700
> To: r129list@mbcoupes.com
> From: John Collins <mbz@conceptualedge.com>
> Subject: Re: [R129 SL] somebody talk me out of this
> Reply-To: r129list@mbcoupes.com
>
> At 9:00 AM -0500 6/10/03, <deneals@mbz.org> wrote:
> >Recent mid-life crisis has me desiring a sporty car, and a recent
friend's
> >death (urge to do it now or fuhgeddaboutit) leads to the desire for a
1991
> >300SL.
> >
> >Most desirable is one in Charlottesville; red over tan, nicely kept w 5
> >speed manual 95k miles
> >
> >OR
> >
> >1991 blue over tan auto w 45k miles
> >
> >Anybody want to help me decide which car or talk me out of it? What do
you
> >a fair price would be for either. KBB has these cars @$13-14k; of course
> >both owners want lots more.
>
> Go for it! The SL is a magnificent convertible. The 320 got much better
reviews than the 300 so if you can find one of those, you'll probably like
it better.
>
> Mid-life was a few years ago for me, but I'm back in an SL and loving it.
I had three different SLs through the 80s and then moved into a sedan. Last
year I got the bug and bought a 95 that I recently replaced with a 99 and
couldn't be happier. The major difference these days is I don't have as
much hair covering my scalp so I always have to wear a hat.
> --
>
> ___________________
> John Collins
> Irvine, CA
> 1999 SL600 Sport
> http://www.conceptualedge.com/mbz
> mbz@conceptualedge.com
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 21:24:33 -0500
> Subject: Re: [R129 SL] somebody talk me out of this
> From: "Deneal Schilmeister (iMac)" <deneals@mbz.org>
> To: <r129list@mbcoupes.com>
> Reply-To: r129list@mbcoupes.com
>
> On 6/10/03 9:00, "deneals@mbz.org" <deneals@mbz.org> wrote:
>
> > Recent mid-life crisis has me desiring a sporty car, and a recent
friend'=
> s
> > death (urge to do it now or fuhgeddaboutit) leads to the desire for a
199=
> 1
> > 300SL.
> >=20
> > Most desirable is one in Charlottesville; red over tan, nicely kept w 5
> > speed manual 95k miles
> >=20
> > OR
> >=20
> > 1991 blue over tan auto w 45k miles
> >=20
> > Anybody want to help me decide which car or talk me out of it? What do
y=
> ou
> > a fair price would be for either. KBB has these cars @$13-14k; of
course
> > both owners want lots more.
>
> Thanks for all your comments and suggestions. My lust for an SL has been
> quenched.
>
> One of the two local MB dealers had a 1995 SL320 which I bought today. It
> has 94k miles. It was just off Starmark and had the big bugaboos for the
> M104 and R129 addressed prior. At 92k, the evaporator was replaced, the
> head gasket was replaced, and the "mouse-proof" wiring harness was
replaced=
> .
> At 75k, the front lower seal was replaced.
>
> It is a local two owner car, with all service performed at the dealer.
> While no longer under Starmark, those repairs have the standard dealer
> warranty.
>
> I got the car at a really good price, I thought, so I very happy about it.
>
> Now, my issues are can I get a good price (and quickly) on my 124 300TD,
my
> motorcycle, and what's the best way to manage the hard top?
>
> Thanks again to all for your comments. I pick up the car tomorrow. White
> exterior on grey interior. Black soft top.
> =20
> +++++++++--=20
> Deneal Schilmeister
> MBCA Gateway 1991-2003
> 1979 450SEL 1991 - 2000 (66k to 187k) Sold Canadian!
> 1987 300TD 1998 - current (186k to 273k...)
> 1995 SL320 2003 =AD current ( 94k to ??)
> http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/300TD_Evap0.htm
> http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/deneal.htm>
> http://homepage.mac.com/deneals
> +++++++++--
>
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 07:18:18 -0600
> Subject: Re: [R129 SL] somebody talk me out of this
> From: Norm and Pat Waleke <SLlover@zianet.com>
> To: <r129list@mbcoupes.com>
> Reply-To: r129list@mbcoupes.com
>
> on 6/18/03 8:24 PM, Deneal Schilmeister (iMac) at deneals@mbz.org wrote:
>
> > and what's the best way to manage the hard top?
>
> We built a stationary hardtop storage rack. The pics and dimensions are on
> our website - check it out:
>
> http://www.zianet.com/SLlover/page62b.html
>
> Cost under $10, at the time, but with inflation maybe $15 now.
>
> If you want to buy one, check the 'Other Links' page on our site and click
> on Sources for M-B parts and accessories.
>
> Congratulations on your 'new' car.
>
> How about a pic (640x480, jpeg) of your SL to add to our SL Gallery? Send
to
> us at SLlover@zianet.com
>
> Norm and Pat
> New Mexico, USA
> '89 M-B 560SL 42K (his) "White Knight"
> '91 Mitsubishi Mighty Max 34K (ours) "Blue Max"
> '93 M-B 300E Sportline 50K (ours) "Green Hornet"
> '97 M-B SL500AE 4K (hers) "Red Baron"
> '98 M-B SLK230 7K (ours) "Slick"
> '00 Honda S2000 2K (his) "Ichibon"
> '01 Chrysler PT Cruiser 2K (ours) "Salsa"
> '01 Plymouth Prowler .5K (hers) "Pumpkin"
> photos: http://www.zianet.com/SLlover
> SL Gallery: http://www.zianet.com/SLlover/page11a.html
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 16:26:18 -0400
> From: william hughes <jennian@ziplink.net>
> To: r129list@mbcoupes.com
> Subject: [R129 SL] stained rag top
> Reply-To: r129list@mbcoupes.com
>
> had my dealer service my soft top - lube and adjust
> unfortunately i now have 4 distinct grease stains on the top
> one over each door and one at each bottom rear corner
>
> did my dealer make a mistake?
> any ideas on how to remove stains?
>
> thanks for the help.
> regards,
> bill
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 14
> From: "Michael Willnow" <mwillnow@lightspeed.net>
> To: <r129list@mbcoupes.com>
> Subject: Re: [R129 SL] stained rag top
> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 15:19:26 -0700
> Reply-To: r129list@mbcoupes.com
>
> The dealer's detail shop should be able to remove the grease stains. If
not,
> ask them to replace the top. If you don't want to do that, I would try
> removing the stains with a 50-50 dilution of Simple Green or try Oxyclean.
> If you have seen the Oxyclean commercials you may think it 's just a lot
of
> hype. I was skeptical too until I tried it on a real bad stain on beige
> carpeting. It came completely clean.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "william hughes" <jennian@ziplink.net>
> To: <r129list@mbcoupes.com>
> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 1:26 PM
> Subject: [R129 SL] stained rag top
>
>
> > had my dealer service my soft top - lube and adjust
> > unfortunately i now have 4 distinct grease stains on the top
> > one over each door and one at each bottom rear corner
> >
> > did my dealer make a mistake?
> > any ideas on how to remove stains?
> >
> > thanks for the help.
> > regards,
> > bill
> >
> >
> > The MB Coupes Website!
> > R129 SL Mailing List
> >
>
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 15
> From: "Craig Morris" <afm.corp@verizon.net>
> To: <r129list@mbcoupes.com>
> Subject: Re: [R129 SL] stained rag top
> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 17:39:08 -0500
> Organization: AFM CORP
> Reply-To: r129list@mbcoupes.com
>
> michael
>
> i believe you've sent this to the wrong person or maybe everybody gets a
> copy who's on the thread.
>
> anyway Just For Your Info
> tks
> craig
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Willnow" <mwillnow@lightspeed.net>
> To: <r129list@mbcoupes.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 5:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [R129 SL] stained rag top
>
>
> > The dealer's detail shop should be able to remove the grease stains. If
> not,
> > ask them to replace the top. If you don't want to do that, I would try
> > removing the stains with a 50-50 dilution of Simple Green or try
Oxyclean.
> > If you have seen the Oxyclean commercials you may think it 's just a lot
> of
> > hype. I was skeptical too until I tried it on a real bad stain on beige
> > carpeting. It came completely clean.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "william hughes" <jennian@ziplink.net>
> > To: <r129list@mbcoupes.com>
> > Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 1:26 PM
> > Subject: [R129 SL] stained rag top
> >
> >
> > > had my dealer service my soft top - lube and adjust
> > > unfortunately i now have 4 distinct grease stains on the top
> > > one over each door and one at each bottom rear corner
> > >
> > > did my dealer make a mistake?
> > > any ideas on how to remove stains?
> > >
> > > thanks for the help.
> > > regards,
> > > bill
> > >
> > >
> > > The MB Coupes Website!
> > > R129 SL Mailing List
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > The MB Coupes Website!
> > R129 SL Mailing List
> >
>
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 15:43:50 -0700
> To: r129list@mbcoupes.com
> From: John Collins <mbz@conceptualedge.com>
> Subject: Re: [R129 SL] stained rag top
> Reply-To: r129list@mbcoupes.com
>
> At 3:19 PM -0700 6/23/03, Michael Willnow wrote:
> >The dealer's detail shop should be able to remove the grease stains. If
not,
> >ask them to replace the top. If you don't want to do that, I would try
> >removing the stains with a 50-50 dilution of Simple Green or try
Oxyclean.
> >If you have seen the Oxyclean commercials you may think it 's just a lot
of
> >hype. I was skeptical too until I tried it on a real bad stain on beige
> >carpeting. It came completely clean.
>
> Caution--test a sample first. I tried Oxyclean on a couple of stains in
the white carpet in my house and it discolored the carpet. Now I have beige
spots.
> --
>
> John Collins
> Irvine, CA
> john@conceptualedge.com
> http://www.conceptualedge.com/
> <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 17
> From: "Michael Willnow" <mwillnow@lightspeed.net>
> To: <r129list@mbcoupes.com>
> Subject: Re: [R129 SL] stained rag top
> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 16:31:02 -0700
> Reply-To: r129list@mbcoupes.com
>
> Craig,
>
> I think everybody on the R129 list gets a copy of the messages.
>
> Michael
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Craig Morris" <afm.corp@verizon.net>
> To: <r129list@mbcoupes.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 3:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [R129 SL] stained rag top
>
>
> > michael
> >
> > i believe you've sent this to the wrong person or maybe everybody gets
a
> > copy who's on the thread.
> >
> > anyway Just For Your Info
> > tks
> > craig
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael Willnow" <mwillnow@lightspeed.net>
> > To: <r129list@mbcoupes.com>
> > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 5:19 PM
> > Subject: Re: [R129 SL] stained rag top
> >
> >
> > > The dealer's detail shop should be able to remove the grease stains.
If
> > not,
> > > ask them to replace the top. If you don't want to do that, I would try
> > > removing the stains with a 50-50 dilution of Simple Green or try
> Oxyclean.
> > > If you have seen the Oxyclean commercials you may think it 's just a
lot
> > of
> > > hype. I was skeptical too until I tried it on a real bad stain on
beige
> > > carpeting. It came completely clean.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "william hughes" <jennian@ziplink.net>
> > > To: <r129list@mbcoupes.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 1:26 PM
> > > Subject: [R129 SL] stained rag top
> > >
> > >
> > > > had my dealer service my soft top - lube and adjust
> > > > unfortunately i now have 4 distinct grease stains on the top
> > > > one over each door and one at each bottom rear corner
> > > >
> > > > did my dealer make a mistake?
> > > > any ideas on how to remove stains?
> > > >
> > > > thanks for the help.
> > > > regards,
> > > > bill
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The MB Coupes Website!
> > > > R129 SL Mailing List
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The MB Coupes Website!
> > > R129 SL Mailing List
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > The MB Coupes Website!
> > R129 SL Mailing List
> >
>
>
>
>
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