[LargeFormat] Camaraderie

Wed Jun 5 19:08:30 2002

I figured they were probably same place, and the logic of the first
name/location being "pre-Arizona" makes sense.  By the way, around here
(Phoenix), they pronounce it Canyon de "Shay," I believe.  It is a pretty
neat place, as are many of the ancient sites I've visited out west, but the
haints didn't bother me any more there than they did growing up in my
family's old farmhouse in Georgia (the state, not the republic).

Schuyler Grace

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-----Original Message-----
From: Clive Warren [mailto:cocam@blueyonder.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:30 PM
To: largeformat@f32.net
Subject: RE: [LargeFormat] Camaraderie

At 2:42 pm -0700 5/6/02, Schuyler.Grace@AmericaWest.com wrote:
>Does anyone know if "Canyon de Chelle" (that seems to be listed everywhere
>as being in New Mexico, but I can't find it on a map) is the same as Canyon
>de Chelly in Arizona?
>
>Schuyler Grace
>

Well spotted Schuyler,

Here is a contemporary photograph:

http://uregina.ca/~sauchyn/geog323/298.jpg

While I was copying and pasting from the web site something didn't 
seem quite right! It is pronounced "Shelly" but is in fact spelled 
Chelle. Now as for the location - in 1873 it probably was New 
Mexico.... today it is Arizona. Maybe some you historian/geographer 
fountains of all knowledge can clear this one up.

The area is a special spiritual place for the Navajo - see 
http://waltonfeed.com/peoples/navajo/culture.html They also charge 
people who  want to visit the canyon floor and the ruins. It was the 
sudden exposure to people and tourists that probably made me turn 
tail - I had only spoken to one person in the preceeding 4 days and 
that was someone I met halfway up a mountain....

I felt bad vibes from the moment I emerged from the Valley of the 
Gods to the time I left the Navajo reservation several hours drive 
later.

One of Ansel's famous photos was taken at the Canyon - of a Navajo 
woman with her child. I hesitate to post this URL as it talks of 
royalty free art, however here it is anyway:

http://www.royaltyfreeart.com/ansel/ansel/14_1417a.html

Cheers,
        Clive

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