[Jacob-list] Jacob-list Digest, Vol 121, Issue 5

[Elizabeth Bell]

hope you don't get this twice but seems my post from my gmail did not go through. I have a local feed mill that makes a ground feed so I use that for my 2 old sheep, Jacob ewe included, that don't have teeth. I also have found that Chaffhaye is moist and tender enough for them to actually eat. It is bagged and is a hay replacement. I also soak beet pulp and add to the feed or just give them a bucket full. and they do well on the grass when it is out. I will most likely cut out the grain once the grass comes in.  My old Jacob ewe seems to stay on the thin side but she is very active.

Elizabeth Bell
hobbyknobfarm at main.nc.us



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> From: Katherine Wisor <creeksendfarm at mac.com>

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>> From: Katherine Wisor <creeksendfarm at mac.com>

>> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] Old Sheep

>> Date: March 30, 2014 at 8:19:14 AM PDT

>> To: Peg Bostwick <peg at sweetgrass-jacobs.com>

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>> My older ewes were never skinny . I think it?s because I grained them often. Children came and they knew children meant treats.  Fine cracked corn with molasses sweet feed mix seemed to work . Of course I wormed them with Diatamacious Earth food grade . You have to buy it on line , Lowes brand has additives you don?t want for animals. It also helps kill those pesky bugs you get in grain in the south.  I knew elderly who could eat anything we think we need teeth for.  Add hot water to it to make a mash if you are seeing whole grain come through in their stool or you?re still worried. They also appreciated a heat lamp in the cold. Hope this helps> Katherine  

>> Katherine Wisor RN 

>> 12700 Red Rock Rd

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>> On Mar 30, 2014, at 7:58 AM, Peg Bostwick <peg at sweetgrass-jacobs.com> wrote:

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>>> We?ve had a lot of elder ewes, and in my experience, they just get skinny, no matter what.  That being said, I think that fresh green grass is the best thing for them ? they seem to manage to get it, even without the front choppers.  Our grain mix has soy meal in it, and they can readily handle that, although I?m not sure it makes too much difference.  Mostly, not having to compete with a lot of other ewes at the feeder helps some ? although even given free choice grain in a pen of ?grannies? one year, my old girls were still skinny.

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>>> You may be surprised how long your skinny girl hangs around... Peg

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>>> Peg Bostwick

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>>> From: jacob-list-bounces at jacobsheep.com [mailto:jacob-list-bounces at jacobsheep.com] On Behalf Of Katherine Williamson

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>>> I'd like suggestions on the best way to care for an older ewe.  Naomi will be 15 this spring, with no teeth and poor eyesight, but still has the spirit of a 5 year old.  She's also skinny, and I'd like to put a few pounds on her. 

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>>> Any ideas?

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> From: "Avillion Farm" <avillionfarm at avillionfarm.com>

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> I usually keep an old granny or two around and they live with the ewe lambs ? less competition and more food.

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> This year we have ewes 11, 12 and 14 raising lambs happily.  I put them in with our lambs during late pregnancy and gave them

> a supplement tub (Carmelyx); I like the supplement tubs for quick energy because they can just lap at it and it is nice for ewes

> in late pregnancy when it is a bit harder to meet their energy needs with even good hay due to less room in abdomen because of 

> uterus full of lamb.  The supplement tubs also work well for the elderly toothless one.

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> You can also make them mush out of 50/50 mix of wheat bran and oatmeal if desperate.  We had a ewe that made it to 17 on grass

> in the yard and twice daily mush.

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> From: "G & J Johnston" <westergladstone at btinternet.com>

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> We have a handful of older ewes, the oldest is pushing 18 and her eyesight

> is beginning to fail too.

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> We feed them 'coarse mix' twice a day, which they manage to chomp with their

> back teeth, normal hay and digestive biscuits (don't know if you have these

> over there but they are fairly sweet and have lots of bran in).  The sheep

> love them once they have tried them, as they have a good crunch. They are

> good for a quick energy boost.

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> We also make sure the old ladies always have a licky  bucket with molasses,

> grains and added trace elements in, plus access to water and shelter.

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> They can graze on normal pasture if it isn't too short, and love willow

> leaves to pull off the branches, although they can no longer strip bark.

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> We let them through with the main flock when the lambs are born so they can

> continue to hold their maternal position in the flock, and just enjoy having

> lambs around.  The eldest had twins at 15 but since then we've not lambed

> her or the others.

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> If you keep feeding yours with easy to eat feed she will start to put on

> condition over the summer without the burden of lambing, and will be better

> prepared for next winter.  Some of our old ladies are quite chubby, one is

> skinny but full of life.

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> These are not Jacobs, but Hebrideans which are very similar.  We have not

> kept Jacobs to such a great age, but I think they are quite capable of a

> long life.

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