[Jacob-list] docking

[Peg Bostwick]

I like 'em long, my husband likes 'em docked, so our compromise is a "long"
(half dock?  Partial dock?)   But note that the 4H has recognized the issue
with very short tails, and now requires some minimum length.   Although it
won't satisfy the "long tail" advocates, I think this is a move in the right
direction in terms of animal health and well-being.   

 

Peg Bostwick

 <mailto:peg at sweetgrass-jacobs.com> peg at sweetgrass-jacobs.com

517-626-6981

 

From: jacob-list-bounces at jacobsheep.com
[mailto:jacob-list-bounces at jacobsheep.com] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Bell
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Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] docking

 

Ok, maybe I need to be more specific. I also have long wool breeds and most
folks, not me, dock very close to the base of the tail. I have read that
this can be a possible cause for prolapse. So my long wool sheep have a
stubby tail, versus a long docked tail, to get the fluffy poop catching end
of the tail, off the Jacobs. 

Elizabeth Bell

hobbyknobfarm at main.nc.us

 

 

 

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  1. Re: docking/banding (avillionfarm at avillionfarm.com)
  2. Genetics and Tail Lengths (farmgirlarts at triad.rr.com)
  3. Re: Jacob-list Digest, Vol 97, Issue 37 (Elizabeth Bell)
  4. Re: docking/banding (Linda)


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You can dock or leave them long in my experience.  We have Jacobs acquired
from other flocks that are docked and most of the ones born on the farm
that are not for many years and have never experienced any problems
related to not docking their tails.  The long tails can be annoying to
some shearer's but ours does not seem to mind and it doesn't bother me one
way or the other when I shear them myself.  The issue you always hear
about as the reason to dock is fly strike, but I've never had this happen
around the tail area in the Jacobs either.  I think the breed of sheep
(worse for finely wooled, very wooly tails), type of pasture, and climate
are important factors for risk of fly strike.

Elaina



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For those of you who have crossed any short tailed sheep (i.e., Shetlands,
Icelandics, Finns) with Jacobs or other breeds:
I'm wondering if long tail is dominant. I have a 1/4 Jacob, 3/4 Icelandic
ewe that has a long tail.

Laura
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Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 14:22:15 -0400
From: Elizabeth Bell <hobbyknobfarm at main.nc.us>
Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] Jacob-list Digest, Vol 97, Issue 37
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Hi there Joy,
I do what I call a long dock, I dock to the hock. Although they can hold
their tail up and out of the way of their poop, I just believe they are more
likely to stay clean with a shorter tail. I left one long one  year and I
felt it was too long and she had more fleece on the tail than I cared for. I
do remember reading somewhere that research (maybe) over the years has shown
that docking really wasn't necc. and this wasn't referring to Jacobs, but
other wool breeds. I do it really early though, when they are a couple of
days old. 

Elizabeth Bell
hobbyknobfarm at main.nc.us



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Does everyone dock / band their lambs tails or cam?they be left long?

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Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 19:33:52 -0400
From: Linda <patchworkfibers at windstream.net>
Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] docking/banding
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I have three with undocked tails. Two are from a year when I decided not 
to dock and the other is a bottle lamb that was given to me. Her dam had 
not been vaccinated, so I just decided not to dock her. If the market 
didn't call for docked tails, I'm not sure I'd bother. I like the 
natural Jacob tail length, but buyers want docked tails. All three have 
just above hock length tails and all can easily move their tails high 
enough to keep them clean.
Scours in any sheep - docked tail or not - is messy. I've never had fly 
strike in my sheep, but I'd think flies would be just as attracted to 
two inches of a docked dirty tail as to an undocked dirty tail. As 
Elaina says, there is more than just length involved.
The market does call for docked tails and that's why I dock.
Linda

On 5/30/2012 1:21 PM, avillionfarm at avillionfarm.com wrote:



You can dock or leave them long in my experience.  We have Jacobs acquired

from other flocks that are docked and most of the ones born on the farm

that are not for many years and have never experienced any problems

related to not docking their tails.  The long tails can be annoying to

some shearer's but ours does not seem to mind and it doesn't bother me one

way or the other when I shear them myself.  The issue you always hear

about as the reason to dock is fly strike, but I've never had this happen

around the tail area in the Jacobs either.  I think the breed of sheep

(worse for finely wooled, very wooly tails), type of pasture, and climate

are important factors for risk of fly strike.

 

Elaina

 

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