[Jacob-list] docking

[Elizabeth Bell]

Ok, maybe I need to be more specific. I also have long wool breeds and most folks, not me, dock very close to the base of the tail. I have read that this can be a possible cause for prolapse. So my long wool sheep have a stubby tail, versus a long docked tail, to get the fluffy poop catching end of the tail, off the Jacobs. 
Elizabeth Bell
hobbyknobfarm at main.nc.us



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> You can dock or leave them long in my experience.  We have Jacobs acquired

> from other flocks that are docked and most of the ones born on the farm

> that are not for many years and have never experienced any problems

> related to not docking their tails.  The long tails can be annoying to

> some shearer's but ours does not seem to mind and it doesn't bother me one

> way or the other when I shear them myself.  The issue you always hear

> about as the reason to dock is fly strike, but I've never had this happen

> around the tail area in the Jacobs either.  I think the breed of sheep

> (worse for finely wooled, very wooly tails), type of pasture, and climate

> are important factors for risk of fly strike.

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> For those of you who have crossed any short tailed sheep (i.e., Shetlands, Icelandics, Finns) with Jacobs or other breeds:

> I'm wondering if long tail is dominant. I have a 1/4 Jacob, 3/4 Icelandic ewe that has a long tail.

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> From: Elizabeth Bell <hobbyknobfarm at main.nc.us>

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> Hi there Joy,

> I do what I call a long dock, I dock to the hock. Although they can hold their tail up and out of the way of their poop, I just believe they are more likely to stay clean with a shorter tail. I left one long one  year and I felt it was too long and she had more fleece on the tail than I cared for. I do remember reading somewhere that research (maybe) over the years has shown that docking really wasn't necc. and this wasn't referring to Jacobs, but other wool breeds. I do it really early though, when they are a couple of days old. 

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> Elizabeth Bell

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>> Does everyone dock / band their lambs tails or cam?they be left long?

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> From: Linda <patchworkfibers at windstream.net>

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> I have three with undocked tails. Two are from a year when I decided not 

> to dock and the other is a bottle lamb that was given to me. Her dam had 

> not been vaccinated, so I just decided not to dock her. If the market 

> didn't call for docked tails, I'm not sure I'd bother. I like the 

> natural Jacob tail length, but buyers want docked tails. All three have 

> just above hock length tails and all can easily move their tails high 

> enough to keep them clean.

> Scours in any sheep - docked tail or not - is messy. I've never had fly 

> strike in my sheep, but I'd think flies would be just as attracted to 

> two inches of a docked dirty tail as to an undocked dirty tail. As 

> Elaina says, there is more than just length involved.

> The market does call for docked tails and that's why I dock.

> Linda

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> On 5/30/2012 1:21 PM, avillionfarm at avillionfarm.com wrote:

>> You can dock or leave them long in my experience.  We have Jacobs acquired

>> from other flocks that are docked and most of the ones born on the farm

>> that are not for many years and have never experienced any problems

>> related to not docking their tails.  The long tails can be annoying to

>> some shearer's but ours does not seem to mind and it doesn't bother me one

>> way or the other when I shear them myself.  The issue you always hear

>> about as the reason to dock is fly strike, but I've never had this happen

>> around the tail area in the Jacobs either.  I think the breed of sheep

>> (worse for finely wooled, very wooly tails), type of pasture, and climate

>> are important factors for risk of fly strike.

>> 

>> Elaina

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