[Jacob-list] Energilass
Linda
patchworkfibers at windstream.net
Mon May 16 15:20:46 EDT 2011
There goes my ethnic market :-)
On 5/16/2011 1:20 PM, Laura C Frazier wrote:
> I noticed when I read the label of Blue Seal Energilass that pork
> fat/lard is an ingredient. I quit using it. I have kept a protein
> block with my flock during the end of pregnancy and during lactation.
> I feed a dab of grain per ewe. I have good grass most of the time,
> rotate continuously and feed hay when necessary.
>
> Laura C Frazier
> FarmGirl Arts
> (336) 971-3834
> Kernersville, NC
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> On May 16, 2011, at 8:24 AM, jacob-list-request at jacobsheep.com
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>> 1. Re: Jacob-list Digest, Vol 84, Issue 2 (Heather Hettick)
>> 2. AGM Raffle (Linda)
>> 3. Mineral/protein tubs (Susan J Martin)
>> 4. FW: Rejected lamb (ARTHUR PARTRIDGE)
>> 5. Re: Mineral/protein tubs (Robin Lynde)
>> 6. Re: Mineral/protein tubs (Linda)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 21:11:10 -0400
>> From: Heather Hettick <hettick.1 at osu.edu <mailto:hettick.1 at osu.edu>>
>> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] Jacob-list Digest, Vol 84, Issue 2
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>> Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 19:46:51 -0400
>> From: Linda <patchworkfibers at windstream.net
>> <mailto:patchworkfibers at windstream.net>>
>> Subject: [Jacob-list] AGM Raffle
>> To: jacob-list <jacob-list at jacobsheep.com
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>> The JSBA Annual General Meeting is coming up. It will be held in Dexter,
>> OR - August 26-28.
>> We started the online AGM raffle in 2007. It's been successful in
>> raising money to support the AGM. Even more fun - it's been a great
>> venue to showcase the tremendously creative talents of our members, as
>> well as the generosity of our members and many of the vendors that we
>> deal with. It's a fun way to participate and support the AGM and JSBA
>> even if you can't make it the trip to Oregon.
>> I'm going to do another year as AGM "rafflemaster".
>> http://patchworkfibers.com/raffle.html. Information and pictures of
>> donations should be sent to me at patchworkfibers at windstream.net
>> <mailto:patchworkfibers at windstream.net>. Items
>> need to be delivered to Shannon Phifer in Dexter.
>> I hope you will consider supporting JSBA and the AGM .
>> Linda
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 21:59:06 -0400
>> From: "Susan J Martin" <stcroft at ptd.net <mailto:stcroft at ptd.net>>
>> Subject: [Jacob-list] Mineral/protein tubs
>> To: "Sheep E-mail List" <jacob-list at jacobsheep.com
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>> I am suspecting that my sheep are not ingesting as much of our free
>> feed mineral as they should and I am considering using the
>> mineral/protein tubs or blocks.Here are some questions:
>> How many of you offer the protein/mineral tubs or blocks to your
>> sheep?Do you feed this in additional to graining your sheep?Many of
>> us just grain our sheep during lactation and also we feed our
>> lambs.....do you offer the tubs year round?What are the pros and cons
>> of these products?Do they cause breakdown of the teeth due to the
>> high molasses content?And, what product do you prefer -block or tub?Why?
>> Any advice would be appreciated.....Thank you!
>> Sue Martin
>> Stonecroft
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>> Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 19:49:40 -0700
>> From: "ARTHUR PARTRIDGE" <aztreaz at earthlink.net
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>> Subject: [Jacob-list] FW: Rejected lamb
>> To: "jacob-list" <jacob-list at jacobsheep.com
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>> On May 12, 2011, at 10:38 AM, Joshua Bourget wrote:
>>> So my question is this...Will this ewe be a better mother next time
>>> around? and actually care for her lamb? or should i consider
>>> removing her from my flock. Has anybody had experience with bad
>>> first time moms that turned out to be great moms once they were
>>> older??
>> =========
>> I had a ewe that was a bad first time mother and then turned out to be a
>> great mom after that.My mistake was picking up the newborn lamb and
>> carrying it to the barn.It was raining hard and I was concerned about
>> leaving the lamb out.The mother freaked out, didn't follow me to the barn
>> like the other ewes always did.After crying for her baby for awhile, she
>> finally came in the barn and then tried to ram the lamb.I really thought
>> this was odd, it never happened before.This ewe was really confused.I
>> ended up bottle-feeding the lamb.So the next year I left the lamb alone
>> after it was born, except to check it out, and the ewe did a great
>> job and
>> was a good mother for several years after that.
>>
>> I think a ewe deserves a second chance after being a bad, first time
>> mother.Some ewes seem a bit immature at times.I think my ewe was a
>> little dingy in the head because once she was bawling her head off and
>> couldn't find her lamb and it was laying peacefully right behind her.The
>> ewe didn't bother to look.
>>
>> I wait until the ewes are an age of a year and a half before I get them
>> bred.I bought a ewe that was pregnant, the previous owner had her bred at
>> 7 months old. The ewe had no trouble giving birth but she didn't have
>> Colosseum/milk for the lamb until a few days after his birth, another
>> problem that occurs when sheep are bred too young.
>>
>> Cathy
>> Moscow, Idaho
>>
>>
>>
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 21:42:36 -0700
>> From: "Robin Lynde" <rlynde at onramp113.org <mailto:rlynde at onramp113.org>>
>> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] Mineral/protein tubs
>> To: "Susan J Martin" <stcroft at ptd.net
>> <mailto:stcroft at ptd.net>>,"Sheep E-mail List"
>> <jacob-list at jacobsheep.com <mailto:jacob-list at jacobsheep.com>>
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>> My sheep are on green pasture from late March or April through
>> November. The first month or two is the lush spring growth from
>> winter rains and the ewes lamb in March to take advantage of the
>> grass. By late May or June the pasture growth is from irrigation.The
>> ewes are off the pasture and on alfalfa from late November or
>> December until they are back on pasture. I don't provide grain or any
>> kind of supplement other than sheep minerals with selenium. Most of
>> the mature ewes have twins and my lambs grow well. For the conditions
>> in my part of northern California this works.
>>
>> By the way, I have updated many of the lamb
>> photoshttp://www.meridianjacobs.com/exec/eSheep.asp?categoryID=Ewe%20Lambsand
>> http://www.meridianjacobs.com/exec/eSheep.asp?categoryID=Ram%20Lambs
>> and have also listed some adult ewes for sale
>> http://www.meridianjacobs.com/exec/eSheep.asp?categoryID=Adult%20Ewes
>>
>> Robin Lynde
>> Meridian Jacobs
>> Vacaville, CA
>> www.meridianjacobs.com
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Susan J Martin
>> To: Sheep E-mail List
>> Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2011 6:59 PM
>> Subject: [Jacob-list] Mineral/protein tubs
>>
>>
>> I am suspecting that my sheep are not ingesting as much of our free
>> feed mineral as they should and I am considering using the
>> mineral/protein tubs or blocks.Here are some questions:
>> How many of you offer the protein/mineral tubs or blocks to your
>> sheep?Do you feed this in additional to graining your sheep?Many of
>> us just grain our sheep during lactation and also we feed our
>> lambs.....do you offer the tubs year round?What are the pros and cons
>> of these products?Do they cause breakdown of the teeth due to the
>> high molasses content?And, what product do you prefer -block or tub?Why?
>> Any advice would be appreciated.....Thank you!
>> Sue Martin
>> Stonecroft
>>
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>> Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 08:24:15 -0400
>> From: Linda <patchworkfibers at windstream.net
>> <mailto:patchworkfibers at windstream.net>>
>> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] Mineral/protein tubs
>> To: Susan J Martin <stcroft at ptd.net <mailto:stcroft at ptd.net>>
>> Cc: Sheep E-mail List <jacob-list at jacobsheep.com
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>> I use Blue Seal Energilass SGD molasses tub starting the last six weeks
>> of gestation. I'm also graining during that time. I'll use them for the
>> ewes until I start weaning lambs. Some of the ewes right now are still
>> getting grain as they have limited pasture and some are on just pasture.
>> The ewes on limited pasture actually eat the tub alot faster than the
>> ones on pasture. As I wean, I'm putting the tubs with the lambs, but
>> that is mostly because the tubs aren't empty and the lambs might as well
>> have them as I don't think they would store well until next year. Blue
>> Seal makes an Energilass Sheep tub, which is the same as the SGD tub.
>> They also make an Energliass Goat tub, which has added copper.
>> I don't use the tubs year round, but have been using them for that few
>> month period for years. I have not seen any breakdown of the teeth.
>> RubyBelle had good teeth when she was 15.
>> I also use Southern States 24% protein sheep/goat block at times, but
>> only for sheep that are not getting any grain. It's a soft block that
>> crumbles easily and doesn't wear down their teeth.
>>
>> Linda
>> .
>>
>> On 5/15/2011 9:59 PM, Susan J Martin wrote:
>>> I am suspecting that my sheep are not ingesting as much of our free
>>> feed mineral as they should and I am considering using the
>>> mineral/protein tubs or blocks.Here are some questions:
>>> How many of you offer the protein/mineral tubs or blocks to your
>>> sheep?Do you feed this in additional to graining your sheep?Many
>>> of us just grain our sheep during lactation and also we
>>> feed our lambs.....do you offer the tubs year round?What are
>>> the pros and cons of these products?Do they cause breakdown of the
>>> teeth due to the high molasses content?And, what product do
>>> you prefer -block or tub?Why?
>>> Any advice would be appreciated.....Thank you!
>>> Sue Martin
>>> Stonecroft
>>>
>>>
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