[Jacob-list] Energilass

[Laura C Frazier]

I noticed when I read the label of Blue Seal Energilass that pork fat/ 
lard is an ingredient. I quit using it. I have kept a protein block  
with my flock during the end of pregnancy and during lactation. I  
feed a dab of grain per ewe. I have good grass most of the time,  
rotate continuously and feed hay when necessary.

Laura C Frazier
FarmGirl Arts
(336) 971-3834
Kernersville, NC
http://FarmGirlArts.com
http://www.etsy.com/shop/FarmGirlArts



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>    4. FW: Rejected lamb (ARTHUR PARTRIDGE)

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> Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 21:11:10 -0400

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> From: Linda <patchworkfibers at windstream.net>

> Subject: [Jacob-list] AGM Raffle

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> The JSBA Annual General Meeting is coming up. It will be held in  

> Dexter,

> OR - August 26-28.

> We started the online AGM raffle in 2007. It's been successful in

> raising money to support the AGM. Even more fun - it's been a great

> venue to showcase the tremendously creative talents of our members, as

> well as the generosity of our members and many of the vendors that we

> deal with. It's a fun way to participate and support the AGM and JSBA

> even if you can't make it the trip to Oregon.

> I'm going to do another year as AGM "rafflemaster".

> http://patchworkfibers.com/raffle.html. Information and pictures of

> donations should be sent to me at patchworkfibers at windstream.net.  

> Items

> need to be delivered to Shannon Phifer in Dexter.

> I hope you will consider supporting JSBA and the AGM .

> Linda

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> Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 21:59:06 -0400

> From: "Susan J Martin" <stcroft at ptd.net>

> Subject: [Jacob-list] Mineral/protein tubs

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> I am suspecting that my sheep are not ingesting as much of our free  

> feed mineral as they should and I am considering using the mineral/ 

> protein tubs or blocks.  Here are some questions:

> How many of you offer the protein/mineral tubs or blocks to your  

> sheep?  Do you feed this in additional to graining your sheep?   

> Many of us just grain our sheep during lactation and also we feed  

> our lambs.....do you offer the tubs year round?  What are the pros  

> and cons of these products?  Do they cause breakdown of the teeth  

> due to the high molasses content?  And, what product do you prefer  

> -  block or tub?  Why?

> Any advice would be appreciated.....Thank you!

> Sue Martin

> Stonecroft

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> Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 19:49:40 -0700

> From: "ARTHUR PARTRIDGE" <aztreaz at earthlink.net>

> Subject: [Jacob-list] FW: Rejected lamb

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> On May 12, 2011, at 10:38 AM, Joshua Bourget wrote:

>> So my question is this...Will this ewe be a better mother next time

>> around? and actually care for her lamb? or should i consider

>> removing her from my flock. Has anybody had experience with bad

>> first time moms that turned out to be great moms once they were

>> older??

> =========

> I had a ewe that was a bad first time mother and then turned out to  

> be a

> great mom after that.  My mistake was picking up the newborn lamb and

> carrying it to the barn.  It was raining hard and I was concerned  

> about

> leaving the lamb out.  The mother freaked out, didn't follow me to  

> the barn

> like the other ewes always did.  After crying for her baby for  

> awhile, she

> finally came in the barn and then tried to ram the lamb.  I really  

> thought

> this was odd, it never happened before.  This ewe was really  

> confused.  I

> ended up bottle-feeding the lamb.  So the next year I left the lamb  

> alone

> after it was born, except to check it out, and the ewe did a great  

> job and

> was a good mother for several years after that.

>

> I think a ewe deserves a second chance after being a bad, first time

> mother.  Some ewes seem a bit immature at times.  I think my ewe was a

> little dingy in the head because once she was bawling her head off and

> couldn't find her lamb and it was laying peacefully right behind  

> her.  The

> ewe didn't bother to look.

>

> I wait until the ewes are an age of a year and a half before I get  

> them

> bred.  I bought a ewe that was pregnant, the previous owner had her  

> bred at

> 7 months old. The ewe had no trouble giving birth but she didn't have

> Colosseum/milk for the lamb until a few days after his birth, another

> problem that occurs when sheep are bred too young.

>

> Cathy

> Moscow, Idaho

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> Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 21:42:36 -0700

> From: "Robin Lynde" <rlynde at onramp113.org>

> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] Mineral/protein tubs

> To: "Susan J Martin" <stcroft at ptd.net>,	"Sheep E-mail List"

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> My sheep are on green pasture from late March or April through  

> November. The first month or two is the lush spring growth from  

> winter rains and the ewes lamb in March to take advantage of the  

> grass. By late May or June the pasture growth is from irrigation.   

> The ewes are off the pasture and on alfalfa from late November or  

> December until they are back on pasture. I don't provide grain or  

> any kind of supplement other than sheep minerals with selenium.  

> Most of the mature ewes have twins and my lambs grow well. For the  

> conditions in my part of northern California this works.

>

> By the way, I have updated many of the lamb photos  http:// 

> www.meridianjacobs.com/exec/eSheep.asp?categoryID=Ewe%20Lambs  and  

> http://www.meridianjacobs.com/exec/eSheep.asp?categoryID=Ram% 

> 20Lambs and have also listed some adult ewes for sale http:// 

> www.meridianjacobs.com/exec/eSheep.asp?categoryID=Adult%20Ewes

>

>  Robin Lynde

> Meridian Jacobs

> Vacaville, CA

> www.meridianjacobs.com

>   ----- Original Message -----

>   From: Susan J Martin

>   To: Sheep E-mail List

>   Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2011 6:59 PM

>   Subject: [Jacob-list] Mineral/protein tubs

>

>

>   I am suspecting that my sheep are not ingesting as much of our  

> free feed mineral as they should and I am considering using the  

> mineral/protein tubs or blocks.  Here are some questions:

>   How many of you offer the protein/mineral tubs or blocks to your  

> sheep?  Do you feed this in additional to graining your sheep?   

> Many of us just grain our sheep during lactation and also we feed  

> our lambs.....do you offer the tubs year round?  What are the pros  

> and cons of these products?  Do they cause breakdown of the teeth  

> due to the high molasses content?  And, what product do you prefer  

> -  block or tub?  Why?

>   Any advice would be appreciated.....Thank you!

>   Sue Martin

>   Stonecroft

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> Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 08:24:15 -0400

> From: Linda <patchworkfibers at windstream.net>

> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] Mineral/protein tubs

> To: Susan J Martin <stcroft at ptd.net>

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> I use Blue Seal Energilass SGD molasses tub starting the last six  

> weeks

> of gestation. I'm also graining during that time. I'll use them for  

> the

> ewes until I start weaning lambs. Some of the ewes right now are still

> getting grain as they have limited pasture and some are on just  

> pasture.

> The ewes on limited pasture actually eat the tub alot faster than the

> ones on pasture. As I wean, I'm putting the tubs with the lambs, but

> that is mostly because the tubs aren't empty and the lambs might as  

> well

> have them as I don't think they would store well until next year. Blue

> Seal makes an Energilass Sheep tub, which is the same as the SGD tub.

> They also make an Energliass Goat tub, which has added copper.

> I don't use the tubs year round, but have been using them for that few

> month period for years. I have not seen any breakdown of the teeth.

> RubyBelle had good teeth when she was 15.

> I also use Southern States 24% protein sheep/goat block at times, but

> only for sheep that are not getting any grain. It's a soft block that

> crumbles easily and doesn't wear down their teeth.

>

> Linda

> .

>

> On 5/15/2011 9:59 PM, Susan J Martin wrote:

>> I am suspecting that my sheep are not ingesting as much of our free

>> feed mineral as they should and I am considering using the

>> mineral/protein tubs or blocks.  Here are some questions:

>> How many of you offer the protein/mineral tubs or blocks to your

>> sheep?  Do you feed this in additional to graining your sheep?  Many

>> of us just grain our sheep during lactation and also we

>> feed our lambs.....do you offer the tubs year round?  What are

>> the pros and cons of these products?  Do they cause breakdown of the

>> teeth due to the high molasses content?  And, what product do

>> you prefer -  block or tub?  Why?

>> Any advice would be appreciated.....Thank you!

>> Sue Martin

>> Stonecroft

>>

>>

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