[Jacob-list] Wobbly lambs and Se

[Zach Oaster]

I have fed my Jacobs mineral blocks offered by TSC in my area (West
Michigan). It contains everything, except no added copper. Does anyone
recommend occasionally feeding a standard mineral block... say, every fourth
block? My reading has suggested that toxicity can occur quickly... so I have
been very careful to make sure they never get minerals with copper. What has
worked for you?

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On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Neal Grose <nlgrose at yadtel.net> wrote:


>   a neighbor of mine had sheep and carefully fed copper free supplements

> until she found out that her sheep had copper deficiency anemia. Our

> thinking is that our VERY high iron soils prevented uptake of copper.

>

> it is worth noting that mineral content that can result in copper

> deficiency in Jacob sheep can produce copper toxicity in white face

> longwools. We have had that as well. the results are about like setting off

> a metabolic hand grenade in your animals.

>

> Neal Grose

> North Carolina

>

>  *From:* stockdogs <stockdogs at comcast.net>

> *Sent:* Friday, March 25, 2011 1:44 PM

> *To:* jacob-list at jacobsheep.com

> *Subject:* Re: [Jacob-list] Wobbly lambs and Se

>

>

> Hi All,

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> I've lurked for quite awhile and always read the Jacob list with great

> interest as there is so much knowledge collected here.  I notice the talk of

> copper deficiency and wanted to pass along that this has been cropping up

> with Shetland breeders for the past couple of years.  I had four sheep serum

> tested last year and all were copper, zinc and magnesium deficient.

> Selenium was fine.   I had soil test done and my property is low in

> molybdenum and high in zinc, I always keep loose sheep/goat minerals on hand

> so why they are deficient is the mystery.  None of us can figure out what is

> inhibiting the uptake of copper.  I've recently tried copper oxide boluses

> from NZ and a friend used copper/cobalt/selenium boluses she got from the

> UK.  It will take some time to figure out if these help since it's a time

> release process.

>

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>

> I'd be interested to hear about the mixture Heather came up with that

> includes Red Cell.  Can you share?

>

>

>

> Thank you,

>

> Sally

>

> Granite Falls, WA

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> Message: 1

> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 13:45:19 -0600

> From: "gotothewhip at aol.com"gotothewhip at aol.com

>

> We treated with multiple doses of BoSe with no results. We also tested on

> necropsy and the only thing he was deficient in was COPPER.

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> Message: 3

> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 16:23:03 -0400

> From: "Heather Hettick" hettick.1 at osu.edu

>

> That makes some sense.  The Icelandic people are finding a lot of sheep who

> are deficient in copper or other minerals and the mixture I make contains

> Red Cell, which has copper.  My last two lambs with the wobbles have

> received this so maybe that is part of what has helped them too.  I need to

> get some livers tested to see how my sheep are actually doing with minerals,

> but I haven?t done it yet.  I do more experimenting and really should get

> the tests to have a better idea that what I?m doing is the right thing.

>

> Heather

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