[Jacob-list] 4 horn ewe skulls
Linda
patchworkfibers at windstream.net
Tue May 12 22:14:47 EDT 2009
Edited to add (need to proof read more)
I do consider a sheep with fused horns to have the number of _*total
horns including the ones that are fused*_ - not the number of horns that
are separate.
Linda wrote:
> Are there single horned cows? I want one :-)
> I've received a wide assortment of private responses to my question.
> We certainly are as individual as our sheep!
> I have no experience with wethers, so can't add much to that topic.
> The few meat buyers I have want intact rams and added to the fact that
> I am lousy at banding means that our cull rams go into the freezer as
> rams. A friend of mine did have a wether (castrated by the vet, so I'm
> sure he was a real wether). Pokey had HUGE forward horns as a two year
> old - every bit as large as two year old ram. I think he was unusual.
> I have two five horned ewes and one six horned ewe. I do consider a
> sheep with fused horns to have the number of horns that are fused -
> not the number of horns that are separate. I would consider your ewe
> with three separate on one side and two fused and one separate on the
> other to be a six horned. Unbalanced and undifferentiated is only a dq
> for rams.
> You haven't posted in forever and it's fun to hear from you again -
> it's an interesting topic and thanks for "messing up" my brain :-)
> Congratulations on Canada's first GC Jacob ewe! What does it mean to
> be Canada's first GC ewe?
>
> Linda
>
> ranchrat wrote:
>>
>> Heel low Linda & Sheepers:
>>
>> As far as I understand this, Jacobs are polycerate because they have
>> a gene the splits the horn core...just as a cow has horns, for
>> example, the only difference between having single horned cows and
>> multi-horned cows is this horn splitting gene. People have enough
>> trouble having meat with horns and you'll find a lot want polled
>> cattle, no horns...meat with horns is harder to deal with. LOL, that
>> is until they realize their pretty handy handles some times...or not!
>>
>> I will go out on a limb and surmise that because rams have
>> testosterone and this amplifies the horn growth (and degrades fiber
>> quicker than in ewes...sigh!), you will note a more major split in
>> the horns...but basically, you have the same issue, a single horn
>> that becomes multi-horns.
>>
>> I see no difference in the horns of your four horn ewe and your four
>> horn ram...both look the same to me, but in the ram, more amplified
>> because intact rams have bigger horns than the ewes. If he had been
>> altered, you would note horn growth really slows down, maybe to the
>> same rate as a ewe...that sounds like a FUN project to
>> investigate...alter a full sibling ram to a ewe and see if their horn
>> growth is any different...har har...keep feed and all other factors
>> the same...have fun with that one.
>>
>> Fused horns...it is hard to determine TRUE number of horns as in some
>> causes, I would probably lean towards a seam delegating the
>> "potential" to have caused more horns. I tend to count the fused
>> horns separately, so have "five horned" ewes that would in some
>> person's opinions, be four horns and in the case of one ewe, we have
>> three separated horns on one side (no questioning that side) and her
>> other side, the top horn is fused with another completely separate
>> side horn, so some would say a "five horn," but we refer to her as a
>> SIX horn ewe. Fused horns are frowned upon by some...hee hee...so
>> maybe it is safer to count a fused as one, but then you can fight
>> with the fact that it could make a Jacob have unbalanced horns...that
>> too is a negative for some.
>>
>> Hee hee...too many interpretations...makes nobody completely happy.
>> Sure is fun messing up your brain over tho. Thanks Linda, sure helps
>> pass the time cleaning out barns and gearing up for shearing...oh the
>> tedious tasks of spring and other whatnots.
>>
>> Doggone,
>>
>> Tara Lee Higgins ~ Rat Ranch -- Alberta
>>
>> Home of Melody; Canada's 1^st Grand Champion Jacob Ewe -- Lilac FOUR
>> horn...or FIVE horn?? Hee hee
>>
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