[Jacob-list] 4 horn ewe skulls

Linda patchworkfibers at windstream.net
Tue May 12 22:14:47 EDT 2009


Edited to add (need to proof read more)

I do consider a sheep with fused horns to have the number of _*total
horns including the ones that are fused*_ - not the number of horns that
are separate.

Linda wrote:

> Are there single horned cows? I want one :-)

> I've received a wide assortment of private responses to my question.

> We certainly are as individual as our sheep!

> I have no experience with wethers, so can't add much to that topic.

> The few meat buyers I have want intact rams and added to the fact that

> I am lousy at banding means that our cull rams go into the freezer as

> rams. A friend of mine did have a wether (castrated by the vet, so I'm

> sure he was a real wether). Pokey had HUGE forward horns as a two year

> old - every bit as large as two year old ram. I think he was unusual.

> I have two five horned ewes and one six horned ewe. I do consider a

> sheep with fused horns to have the number of horns that are fused -

> not the number of horns that are separate. I would consider your ewe

> with three separate on one side and two fused and one separate on the

> other to be a six horned. Unbalanced and undifferentiated is only a dq

> for rams.

> You haven't posted in forever and it's fun to hear from you again -

> it's an interesting topic and thanks for "messing up" my brain :-)

> Congratulations on Canada's first GC Jacob ewe! What does it mean to

> be Canada's first GC ewe?

>

> Linda

>

> ranchrat wrote:

>>

>> Heel low Linda & Sheepers:

>>

>> As far as I understand this, Jacobs are polycerate because they have

>> a gene the splits the horn core...just as a cow has horns, for

>> example, the only difference between having single horned cows and

>> multi-horned cows is this horn splitting gene. People have enough

>> trouble having meat with horns and you'll find a lot want polled

>> cattle, no horns...meat with horns is harder to deal with. LOL, that

>> is until they realize their pretty handy handles some times...or not!

>>

>> I will go out on a limb and surmise that because rams have

>> testosterone and this amplifies the horn growth (and degrades fiber

>> quicker than in ewes...sigh!), you will note a more major split in

>> the horns...but basically, you have the same issue, a single horn

>> that becomes multi-horns.

>>

>> I see no difference in the horns of your four horn ewe and your four

>> horn ram...both look the same to me, but in the ram, more amplified

>> because intact rams have bigger horns than the ewes. If he had been

>> altered, you would note horn growth really slows down, maybe to the

>> same rate as a ewe...that sounds like a FUN project to

>> investigate...alter a full sibling ram to a ewe and see if their horn

>> growth is any different...har har...keep feed and all other factors

>> the same...have fun with that one.

>>

>> Fused horns...it is hard to determine TRUE number of horns as in some

>> causes, I would probably lean towards a seam delegating the

>> "potential" to have caused more horns. I tend to count the fused

>> horns separately, so have "five horned" ewes that would in some

>> person's opinions, be four horns and in the case of one ewe, we have

>> three separated horns on one side (no questioning that side) and her

>> other side, the top horn is fused with another completely separate

>> side horn, so some would say a "five horn," but we refer to her as a

>> SIX horn ewe. Fused horns are frowned upon by some...hee hee...so

>> maybe it is safer to count a fused as one, but then you can fight

>> with the fact that it could make a Jacob have unbalanced horns...that

>> too is a negative for some.

>>

>> Hee hee...too many interpretations...makes nobody completely happy.

>> Sure is fun messing up your brain over tho. Thanks Linda, sure helps

>> pass the time cleaning out barns and gearing up for shearing...oh the

>> tedious tasks of spring and other whatnots.

>>

>> Doggone,

>>

>> Tara Lee Higgins ~ Rat Ranch -- Alberta

>>

>> Home of Melody; Canada's 1^st Grand Champion Jacob Ewe -- Lilac FOUR

>> horn...or FIVE horn?? Hee hee

>>

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