[Jacob-list] Registrations

peggy pegvanbeek at msn.com
Mon Mar 16 18:59:26 EDT 2009


I agree that is why we have inspections. I was just wondering how these little problems come to be. It is just a email for imput nothing else. I am more concerned about the flaws that suggest cross breeding. I had a ewe a long time ago that had wool foward of the horns (4 horns) when I first started. She was put in the appendix reg. I was told at that time this fault is a suggestion of cross breeding. Yet I had no FF parentage all reg parents. I was just wondering if these problems are just gene faults not crossbreeding.

Peggy
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To: pegvanbeek at msn.com ; jacob-list at jacobsheep.com
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] Registrations


Peggy, My first submitted application failed, and it too was lots of old blood.. i was crushed, but honestly am now understanding that the inspectors only will register animals who represent the breed correctly. I think evey now and then, even with breeding the best to the best, you get a bad gene, I dont like how that sounds... an unusual gene combination.

I wish that Quarter Horses or any number of other breeds went thru our inspection process. Sure there are individuals that get failed that may have benefited the breed, but those animals are outnumbered by thiose who may not have helped conserve the breed.

I dont know if this is accurate, but I was told that 50% of all Jacob Rams born (no necessarily just those that apply for registry) but of those born and alive.. 50% will not meet registration qualifications, as truly only exceptional rams should be registered and used for breeding. And I find that about 75-90% of my ram lambs go to the freezer as they are not as nice as their daddy.

I dont think its a case of a breed impurity, just an undesirable trait.

Jennifer Tucker
Moose Mtn Ranch
Bennett, CO
www.MooseMtnRanch.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Marguerite Van Beek <pegvanbeek at msn.com>
To: jacob-list <jacob-list at jacobsheep.com>
Sent: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 2:36 pm
Subject: [Jacob-list] Registrations


Registrations. I haven't had a questionable registration on a ewe in a long time. I guess I was due. I have no problem providing the info the inspector has (pictures are questionable) to satisfy his question. Let's assume and it is a example that she has wool forward of the horns. My question to all of the Jacob breeders, how can you have a problem with a Jacob that could deny their entry into the JSBA Reg when all of her breedings are from Swallow Lane, Craft, Fairview, Brink May, Rockies, Unzicker, Joy Farm, Brighton etc. There are no FF 5 generations maybe more (I didn't go back that far). If she is questionable (cross bred) then where did it come from. Someone, somewhere is the guilty party. Does this mean unless we find the culprit does all the rams and ewes on her pedigree questionable and their decendents. Rightfully they should be. Should we throw out the entire lineage?

If it was the Jockey Club you betcha they would until the one that is guilty steps forward. I understand that when you have FF then you might have problems like this. Now, all of the above breeders don't go crazy my farm is on the pedigree too. Now remember this is an example please. I just want to know where do you draw the line when it comes to acceptance. How do you sell a lamb or ewe or ram that you have proof beyond a reasonable doubt that this Jacob is pure and then have some quirky thing like this come up.

Peggy
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