[Jacob-list] Hunting Sheep

[Marguerite Van Beek]

Just one more point someone brought up.  If they are "wild" then please explain to me how they are shorn in the picture.  Do they shorn them after they are killed or before?  What do you think????  do you not have to handle them or do you think the fleece falls off?  Mind boggling isn't it.   

Peggy
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Linda<mailto:patchworkfibers at alltel.net> 
  To: JACI SIEHL<mailto:wedohoney at sbcglobal.net> ; Jacob-list at jacobsheep.com<mailto:Jacob-list at jacobsheep.com> 
  Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 8:55 PM
  Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] Hunting Sheep


  Excellent points, Jaci.


  And here's a question - where is everyone taking their cull rams? Are you taking them to an auction where they may end returning to the breeding population?  Remember we have an open flock book - your culls can come back and be presented for registration. Or where they may go someplace where they are not humanely treated? I used to hunt - mostly birds (I love bird dogs) and deer. I honestly don't know anything about canned hunts, but I know it's possible in the wild to wound an animal and not be able to find it. I think maybe in canned hunts where someone is paying uptiddy dollars, at least we know the animal has been recovered. How many of you have a healthy ethnic market for your sheep?  Is that horrible?  How many of you would be thrilled to get $300 for your cull ram lambs? I would. I'm not raising pets - I'm raising livestock.

  Is this "deja vu all over again?".  Didn't we do this ebay thing 3 weeks or so ago?  There's really only one ram there (the one with the horrible forward horns) that could be considered a Jacob. Peggy, please don't get PETA involved. Wasn't it PETA that burned the Lasseau barn with the sheep inside? 

  Linda




   
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  > Ok - I don't mean to make enemies but I do have a couple
  > observations and comments regarding these hunts.  I kept quiet on
  > the last round of postings about the hunt clubs, but I can't keep
  > quiet any longer.
  >
  > First I think it very interesting that many of the sheep appear to
  > have been freshly sheared......odd, huh?
  >
  > Now for the part many of you won't like.  Many of the rams in the
  > pictures have horns that would not allow them to be registered and
  > something none of us trying to preserve the breed would want to use
  > as a herd sire.  So, that being said, what would have become of the
  > ram if not at the hunting club?  Into someone's freezer, with the
  > pelt and maybe the head processed and sold to a customer. 
  >
  > I use to hunt and really enjoyed it - but I now prefer to eat meat
  > that has been humanly slaughtered and not taken by hunting.  That
  > is my choice.
  >
  > I know that many more wild animals would starve to death if some of
  > the populations were not controlled by hunting, or the predators
  > would become too numerous and dangerous to man.  I believe in our
  > right to hunt - I don't want anyone to take that away from me or
  > anyone else.....my heart breaks when I think of some animal I am
  > close to like Jacob sheep being hunted - but I can't be a hypocrite
  > and say it is ok to hunt bears, coyotes, or mountain lions because
  > they are eating our sheep and not think that the same should hold
  > true for other animals.  I don't believe in waste in taking any
  > life - I don't' even kill mice - I catch and move them.
  >
  > We all get emotional because we are close to this breed - but are
  > they so different from the big horn sheep in the wild?  Remember in
  > some cultures they wouldn't eat a cow if their life depended on it
  > and in others horse and dog are a part of their regular diet.
  >
  > Hunting is a right and if we don't agree with it all we can do is
  > not hunt and not knowingly supply animals to to be hunted.  Hunting
  > clubs are similar to fishing farm-raised fish - whether in a big
  > lake or some pond at the farm, but how many get emotional over
  > catching a trout?
  >
  > OK - I'm stepping off my soap box now - I just hope you remember
  > that an opinion is not the same as a right and we must defend our
  > rights.
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