[Jacob-list] Mid west Jacobs

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Mark,

     Edd and Luther are both doing well. Edd has retired and spends time in both Tenn. and Mexico and Luther will retire in a couple of years.
     Edd gave me some photos of several of the old Jacobs and some of them were very good. Luther has also been a great provider of a lot of Jacob history for me and I  like the black muzzles and knee and hock patches as Luke does.
     Both of them provided some great Jacobs for us to breed from.

Carl
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mark Essen 
  To: jacob-list at jacobsheep.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 9:52 AM
  Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] Mid west Jacobs


  I have Anita's post on a backup of an old computer, somewhere.  Anita's letter has been posted here before, do we have archives on this list?  I also have a copy of Edd's tape on VHS.  I am afraid to watch it for fear that my VCR may eat it.  I also hate to start naming names for fear that I will insult somebody by omission.  Ingrid Painter's book also is a good source of earlier Jacobs.  I might be able to find Edd's tape if anybody wanted to make DVD's off of it.  Would that be legal, are there any copyright issues?  Does JSBA still have the tape available?   By the way, How are Edd and Luther doing?

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Linda 
    To: Mark Essen ; jacob-list at jacobsheep.com 
    Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 5:05 PM
    Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] Mid west Jacobs


    Not only do we remember the video, Edd was kind enough to come speak at our JSBA Annual General Meeting last August, along with Luther Hardy. As I'm sure you know, Edd quit registering after a few years. But, I sure had no problem bringing in a ram from him in 2000, even though I had to put Zeppo in as FF in the flock book.  I think some of us know the names of the "old timers" that did so much to conserve the breed, but some newer members may not.  Mark - could you just post a list for us? We shouldn't be forgetting them - btw - it's probably time to post the Anita Evangilista (sp) piece again about "why I love Jacobs".  It ought to be posted at least once a year.  I have it somewhere if I can find it.  Does anyone else have it handy?


    Linda


     
    www.patchworkfibers.com
    Registered Jacob Sheep, Angora Rabbits, Handspun Yarn


    > If any of you remember Edd Bissel's video of Jacobs in the US, it
    > seems to me that many of them were midwest.  Edd used to talk about
    > Dave Hale's auction in Cape Giradeau, Missouri.  There are still
    > auctions for "exotic" animals In much of the mid-west.  Most of
    > these auctions do not brag on (or even mention)  registration, but
    > some of the best looking primitive type Jacobs I have seen have
    > been at some of these auctions (some real crap is available also). 
    > As somebody has already pointed out, you need to keep an eye on
    > offspring for a few generations to be sure that you actually bought
    > a jacobs.   After all, these can be the very definition of unknow
    > background.   But a lot of people that raise jacobs want to raise
    > pure jacobs, regardless of paperwork.  When I go to the farms of
    > some of these people, many of them have never heard of some of the
    > names of farms, farmers, and flocks that some of us old-timers hold
    > in such reverence.  But they certainly have a high regard of the
    > breed.
    > As far as money goes, the highest prices I have ever seen go to the
    > rams with the nicest set of four horns.  I saw a beatutiful white
    > four horn ram sell for twelve hundred dollars.  He sold at a sale
    > in Tennessee and then went to a hunting ranch in Texas.  Obviously
    > they did not care that he was not pure Jacob, just that he had a
    > nice set of horns.  I think that it would be hard for most of us to
    > remember the last time we saw any registered Jacob sell that high. 
    > I suspect that many people on the list do not like hunting ranches,
    > but we have to admit that they do influence prices.  
    > I guess that my point is that there are lots of small farms in the
    > midwest that raise Jacobs.  We just seem not to be as apt to join
    > the registries as some of our coastal counterpoints.  At least that
    > is how it appears through my eyes.
    >
    > Mark Essen, a rampant anarchist in Missouri who is trying hard to
    > stay out of the regisratration discussion.


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