[Jacob-list] LGDs
Sharon Hill
sharonehill at yahoo.com
Mon Jul 31 00:23:18 EDT 2006
OK, I will put in my 2 cents. I have had a Great
Pyrennes since the year 2000 and have never lost a
sheep to a predator. My neighbor has cows and he
loses several calves every year to coyotes.
The dog is very sweet and has never shown any
aggressiveness towards people. He is one of my all
time favorite dogs, and if the day comes when I don't
have sheep, I will probably always have a Great
Pyrennes. (unless I end up in a dinky apartment
somewhere instead of my 18 acres.)
Sharon Hill
--- SKimbro <Sheri at eldoradohoney.com> wrote:
> Had to jump in here. I believe it was Linda last
> year who mentioned she had Danes, and they got along
> well with the animals. It was part of the reason I
> ended up with them. 2 males. They aren't ever IN
> the pasture with the animals off leash, but they
> share several common fence lines. While I think the
> dogs would be fine with the animals, I have a couple
> llamas that would likely try and stomp them to
> death. But like Linda's, my Danes are always with
> me, somewhere in the yard or in the house.
>
> Like I said, we have llamas too. 9 of them. We
> used to have an actual "guard" gelding, but he died
> this year from Oleander. Now, just by virtue of the
> fact that we have 9 large llamas, I believe our
> chances of coyote or mountain lion attacks are less.
> We leave our ewes, pygmy goats and llamas all out
> at night in a pasture with closed gates and a barn.
> They usually opt not to use the barn except during
> heavy rains. We've lived this way for almost 2
> years and while lots of our neighbors have lots
> animals to mountain lions or foxes, we have not. We
> also have 17 free range hens, and have seen foxes in
> neighboring yards, but never on our property. (They
> go into a locked coop at night though).
>
> I can only assume it's because of the llamas, (and
> the occasional giant barking dog doesn't hurt
> either!).
>
> Sheri
> Shingle Springs, CA
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Linda
> To: CARL FOSBRINK ; Debbie Bennett ; Judy Watson
> Cc: Jacob List
> Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 4:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] LGDs
>
>
> We use donkeys. I got my first donkey 40 + years
> ago and I've always really liked them. Dave got his
> first donkey 14 years ago and I guess we'll always
> have them. IF we didn't have donkeys, I do believe
> I'd opt for llamas before dogs. As Carl says, I do
> not want to offend, and I do know that many people
> have dogs that do a really great job. Around here I
> just haven't been too impressed by the LGD's I've
> been around. By the time you get a fence strong
> enough to keep them in, the fence is strong enough
> to keep most anything out. I don't know if all
> LGD's bark all the time, but the ones in my
> neighborhood sure do.
>
> My sheep have always gotten along pretty well with
> my Danes. It may be because the Danes are usually
> with me and they are such calm dogs.
>
> Linda
>
>
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>
>
>
>
> > Hello All,
> >
> > I do not intend to offend anyone that has
> guard dogs and if it
> > works for them that is great. We have guard
> llamas and I can not
> > say enough good things about the job they do.
> The Jacobs like them
> > and they guard the Jacobs very well. Woe be to
> any dog that gets
> > into the Jacob pasture. The last dog that got
> into the pasture was
> > howling to get out and I had to go rescue him
> because the ram was
> > bouncing him off the fence.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Carl
> >
> >
> > Debbie Bennett wrote:
> >> We use llamas to guard. It amazes me that your
> Jacobs will accept
> >> any dog, regardless of breed. My Jacobs beat up
> dogs: the
> >> neighbor's pit bulls, the old lab we used to
> have, a couple
> >> different herding dogs, etc.
> >> We now have a German shepherd/hunting dog cross
> as our family
> >> dog. The sheep have "accepted" him better than
> any other dog
> >> we've tried. The Jacobs beat him up a couple
> times and he pretty
> >> much ignores them. He does however, catch up
> chickens when they
> >> stray into the garden and has helped us herd a
> couple stray
> >> lambs. He does this by cornering and holding
> the stray until we
> >> get there (the hunting instincts) and the other
> night, he rescued
> >> a chicken - couldn't see in the dark, exactly
> what had gotten a
> >> hold of it, but he chased off the predator and
> held onto the
> >> chicken, so we were able to put it back in the
> barn relatively
> >> unharmed (missing a few feathers). Debbie
> Bennett Feral Fibre
> >> Farm Oakland, Oregon On Jul 28, 2006, at 5:31
> AM, Judy Watson
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Elaina,
> >>> I think it depends a lot on where you are
> located and whether
> >>> you are buying a show dog or not. In Texas it
> is common to see
> >>> pups for
> >>> $150 to $200, but I see "breeding stock" (read
> city bred &
> >>> raised) dogs
> >>> for up to and over $1000. I have 2 Anatolians
> and 1
> >>> Anatolian/Great Pyr. mix and am extremely
> pleased with all of
> >>> them and would trade any of them for a truck
> load of gold. I
> >>> think it is important to try to get
> >>> pups from actual working parents, and it is
> best that they be
> >>> born and grow up around livestock, although
> this is not always
> >>> necessary as the best Anatolian I have was a
> "rescue" and had
> >>> been kept in isolated in a
> >>> small cage for the first 5 months of her life
> before I got her.
> >>> She bonded right away with my herd. I also
> would never hesitate
> >>> to have another cross as long as it is a cross
> between LGD
> >>> breeds (and not something else like a herding
> dog, hunting dog,
> >>> etc).
> >>>
> >>>
> =================================================
> Judy Watson
> >>> 325-938-5403 hm. Rt. 2 Box 287 325-451-0209
> cell 330 CR 427
> >>> Goldthwaite, TX 76844
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I-Diamond-I Ranch www.IDiamondI.com
> >>>
>
=================================================================
> Does
> >>> anyone know "typical" prices for various
> breeds of LGD puppy?
> >>> e.g.
> >>> Great Pyrenees, Anatolian, Maremma, etc. A
> friend asked me to
> >>> post this question. Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Elaina M. Kenyon
> >>> http://www.avillionfarm.com
> >>> Shetland sheep, angora goats, angora rabbits
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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