[Jacob-list] Just when I thought PETA was bad...

fayg at mebtel.net fayg at mebtel.net
Fri Apr 29 18:52:28 EDT 2005 

Working in a medical office I remember sitting in a meeting
with some city folk workers laughing about an executive in 
corporate HQ that owned cows. Things got real quiet and someone
whispers something about the crazy programmer with the sheep ...

bahhhhh oh well ... ok, not all city folk are bad ...


Gary



Quoting Betty Berlenbach <lambfarm at sover.net>:

> Do we know for sure these are "city people"?  Is it fair to say such a
> thing?  Could it be they are people who grew up  on a farm which did abuse
> animals and hence are hair trigger sensitive? Could it be they are familiar
> with standardized breeds and hence, see the jacobs with their backbones out
> and thin like swimmers, and think they are starved?  Could it be not lack of
> knowledge, but a little knowledge, always a dangerous thing?  I think that
> calling these people "city folks" is being no better than they are: lumping
> all of one type into a category in order to condemn.  I have never been a
> city folk, but I refuse to lump them together and blame PETA on them.
> However,  I am all for education and awareness and checking out legal
> possibilities, good suggestions, all.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Katherine Wisor" <creeksendfarm at mac.com>
> To: "gf" <fayg at mebtel.net>
> Cc: <jacob-list at jacobsheep.com>; <labradorridgejacobs at yahoo.com>;
> <Paintedrockfarm at aol.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 8:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] Just when I thought PETA was bad...
> 
> 
> > I wish these do gooders would just have the nerve to face ME to voice
> > their concerns so I could do some one on one education or at least
> > address the problem  face to face .     Many are jealous because they
> > wanted to "have animals too" of coarse  they have 1/2 acre compared to
> > my 10 acres .  I wonder if they realize the money I spend to keep this
> > all up.   So in their minds they call and ask authorities  " why " and
> > leave the impression there are problems .  So far I've enjoyed meeting
> > these people and have good support from animal control officers and
> > City Officials I've met at the Hidden Valley Festival  each September
> > when I take the farms best  for a Show & Tell .   I can't run and hide
> > , not even from PETA .   Are there no Attorney's out the that have an
> > idea how to proceed before this gets out of control?   PETA I'm sure
> > has some one setting the pace to maneuver around  societal and legal
> > issues such as being a CHARITY  ...... Someone has to have a husband ,
> > sister or uncle in the profession of LAW ????   We'd better get ready ,
> > this isn't going away unless the world ends as we know it and these
> > CITY people need local farmers again to survive !   Katherine
> > K.M.Wisor       Creeks End Farm     Charlotte, North Carolina
> >
> >                                           On Apr 28,  2005, at 6:52 PM,
> > fayg at mebtel.net wrote:
> >
> > > Unfortunately, the city dwellers moving into the country do not see
> > > themselves
> > > as the interlopers, but rather, what was this person thinking, putting
> > > a farm in
> > > the middle of the city.
> > >
> > > aka, now that I am here you can't do what you have been doing for
> > > years.
> > >
> > >
> > > Gary
> > >
> > >
> > > Quoting Paintedrockfarm at aol.com:
> > >
> > >> As a Humane Officer for a local shelter, I can honestly attest to vast
> > >> "abuse" of this system of reporting animal neglect.  Unfortunately,
> > >> some
> > >> people
> > >> want to call Animal Control just to have something to do when real
> > >> cases  of
> > >>
> > >> neglect go unreported.  Like your case, its most often "reporter's
> > >> ignorance"
> > >> that causes the vast majority of livestock reports.  You can't
> > >> imagine the
> > >> reports that come in to our shelter facility -- mainly from ignorant
> > >> people
> > >> who
> > >> honestly don't know the first thing about animal care.  There  are
> > >> true cases
> > >>
> > >> of abuse and neglect and often times the owners are the ignorant
> > >> ones!  Sad
> > >>
> > >> but true.
> > >>
> > >> By West Virginia State Law, Animal Control is required to follow up
> > >> and
> > >> investigate every single report made to their office.  In most cases,
> > >> the
> > >> officer
> > >> can use his/her general discretion when trying to determine if the
> > >> reporting
> > >>
> > >> is more like harassment or in the form of misplaced concern rather
> > >> than
> > >> neglect.  Repeated "reports", especially when they come from the same
> > >>  people
> > >>
> > >> about the same people is actually grounds for a criminal complaint
> > >> against
> > >> the
> > >> caller for harassment -- at least in WV it is.  Another thing  is most
> > >> sheriff
> > >> departments are also trained Humane Officers -- at least here in  WV
> > >> they are
> > >>
> > >> -- and they can be a great ally when a REAL case of investigation is
> > >> warranted.  Again, they are required to follow up on cases reported as
> > >> abuse/neglect
> > >> -- they cannot risk "blowing it off" and there actually be  violations
> > >> involved.
> > >>
> > >> Being willing to allow inspections is an excellent opportunity to
> > >> educate
> > >> folks about Jacobs.  They do look different because the ARE different
> > >> and
> > >> they
> > >> do have different needs than commercial sheep breeds.  CHRIS -- kudos
> > >>  to you
> > >>
> > >> for being so gracious to the sheriff/deputy.  You deserved the
> > >> apology call
> > >>
> > >> -- I'm just kind of surprised they offered one! I hope no one has  to
> > >> deal
> > >> with
> > >> false claims like that but, unfortunately, it does  happen.
> > >>
> > >> Just my two cents, for what its worth! -- Cheryl
> > >>
> > >> Mike  & Cheryl Terrano
> > >> _Painted  Rock Farm_ (http://members.aol.com/paintedrockfarm)
> > >> Route 4 Box 726
> > >> Buckhannon, WV  26201-9205
> > >> (304) 457-6620
> > >> _paintedrockfarm at aol.com_ (http://paintedrockfarm@aol.com/)
> > >> Breeders of Registered Jacob Sheep & French Angora  Rabbits
> > >>
> > >
> > >
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