[Jacob-list] Lamb is missing something...

[Dave & Katrina]

While we have followed that policy at times, I don't think this should be
an automatic reaction to finding out about a recessive trait.  
1) this is the reason  many breeders would prefer not to follow the genetic
status of their sheep 
2)if we culled for every 'proven' recessive trait, we would end up with
very few sheep left to work with
3)it seems a better response that gives breeders encouragement in following
the genetic status of their sheep is to advise not breeding that animal
with an animal with the same weakness... this goes for cross-bred traits
too. (my opinion)  on the other hand culling can be a quicker way to feel
confident about the traits your flock is carrying.
Just my two cents!  *smile* Katrina

> [Original Message]
> From: Mary Hansson <mhansson1 at triad.rr.com>
> To: jacoblist <jacob-list at jacobsheep.com>; Melody
<critterland at bendcable.com>
 > Date: 1/23/03 4:44:02 PM
> Subject: RE: [Jacob-list] Lamb is missing something...
>
> Hi,
> 
> Isn't the condition a genetically carried trait---recessive?  If I am
> correct, it would indicate the parents should both be taken out of the
> gene pool.  But first......am I correct??
> 
> Mary Ellen Hansson, ISeeSpots Farm
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jacob-list-admin at jacobsheep.com
> [mailto:jacob-list-admin at jacobsheep.com] On Behalf Of Melody
> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 10:51 AM
> To: jacoblist
> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] Lamb is missing something...
> 
> 
> If he has undescended testicles, they *may* still be functional--which
> means "rammy behavior".  Being in the abdominal cavity rather than in
> the scrotum will affect sperm production, so he may not be as fertile,
> but could possibly produce offspring. They will probably still be
> producing hormones, so he will act like a ram.  As far as size--I don't
> know about that, but undescended testicles alone shouldn't affect size
> in the long run. Melody at CritterLand Redmond OR
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "MBondurant" <mbondurant at mindspring.com>
> To: <jacob-list at jacobsheep.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 7:00 AM
> Subject: [Jacob-list] Lamb is missing something...
> 
> 
> > We have a four-month-old ram lamb who seems to have undescended 
> > testicles.
> The scrotum is empty, there are some small round objects which can be
> felt in his abdomen.  He is also significantly smaller than his female
> twin.  Our plan was to wether him anyway as he's too dark for breeding
> purposes -- has nature taken care of this for us?  Are there health
> issues?  Will he (and his horns) remain petite?
> >
> > Michelle Bondurant
> > Over The Hill Farm, Fairfield VT
> >
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