Fwd: [Jacob-list] Rabies?

[Kathryn Shirley]

I decided to vaccinate when my vet announced that she and about 20 other people
had to take a series of rabies shots.  Turns out that the animal with
listeriosis was rabid....

Then I found out that a rabid sheep (and most herbivores) will have the "dumb"
kind of rabies which looks remarkably like many other diseases.  All it takes is
contact with slobber, and who hasn't been slobbered on and/or bitten when
worming a group of sheep?

Dave & Katrina wrote:

> Are rabies simply more of a problem in some areas?  I have never met a
> sheep breeder around here (at least that I am aware of)that vaccinated for
> rabies. To be honest, I kind of chuckled the first time I heard of it.
> Maybe I am just out of it or was raised by a mother who was
> vaccine-suspicious.
> Katrina Lefever, Chicory Lane Farm
> Hanover, PA
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Katherine Wisor <creeksendfarm at mac.com>
> > To: <jacob-list at jacobsheep.com>
>  > Date: 9/13/02 4:21:23 PM
> > Subject: Fwd: [Jacob-list] Rabies?
> >
> >
> >
> > Begin forwarded message:
> >
> > > From: katherine wisor <wisor at mac.com>
> > > Date: Fri Sep 13, 2002  4:17:07 PM US/Eastern
> > > To: jacob-list-request at jacobsheep.com
> > > Subject: Fwd: [Jacob-list] Rabies?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Begin forwarded message:
> > >
> > >> From: Katherine Wisor <creeksendfarm at mac.com>
> > >> Date: Fri Sep 13, 2002  4:11:12 PM US/Eastern
> > >> To: Susan Nielsen <snielsen at orednet.org>
> > >> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] Rabies?
> > >>
> > >> It hard for me to see the similarity between a vaccine and and
> > >> "anti"biotic (used to treat infection)  Bacteria can became resistant
> > >> to any treatment used to kill it .  It just builds new defenses as it
> > >> were. A vaccine builds antibodies within the body to prevent
> > >> infection,  antibiotics kill an bacteria thats already invaded.   If
> > >> you're giving the immune system something to fight off a viral
> > >> infection before the introduction of the virus it would seem
> > >> impossible to have have TOO MUCH protection.  It really isn't the
> > >> same.  Baiting has been done in the north in areas where rabies cases
> > >> have have been out of control.   Studies over 10 years have proven
> > >> the  effectiveness of baiting.  The cost is approx. 34 cents per
> > >> bait.  I have been trying for sometime here in Charlotte, NC. to get
> > >> someone to listen to the stats.   How can this not be safer than have
> > >> even one child be bitten by a rabid animal?   The cost I saw someone
> > >> had spent seem much lower than The $1000. + I've heard it cost
> > >> without insurance. Go
> > >> www.gis.queensu.ca/reporter/rabies-conference/biglerny.html  or  look
> > >> under "raccoon rabies" check the sites .  I hope this made sense to
> > >> non medical people.  Maybe it just's a "Kathey " and "Katherine"
> > >> thing .  Kathey thanks for bring it up !   K  On Friday, September
> > >> 13, 2002, at 01:08 PM, Susan Nielsen wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> On Fri, 13 Sep 2002 ACAMDA at aol.com wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> As for all the wild critters, rabies vaccinations are available in
> > >>>> "bait"
> > >>>> form for areas that have a high incidence of rabies.  You drop it
> > >>>> in rural
> > >>>> areas and the animals eat it and take in the vaccine.
> > >>>
> > >>> Boy, gee. This is not directed at Kathey personally (really, it is
> > >>> not:
> > >>> no flames here), but perhaps to any vet or agency that would suggest
> > >>> such
> > >>> a practice, and to those of us who might consider it. It sounds like
> > >>> a
> > >>> recipe for growing vaccine resistant rabies. Since no one can know
> > >>> what
> > >>> dosage is taken by wild animals consuming bait, I would hope the
> > >>> practice
> > >>> is rare.
> > >>>
> > >>> Among beekeepers it used to be common practice to feed Terramyacin
> > >>> in sugar-laced grease patties as a prophilactic against a condition
> > >>> called Foul Brood. It was done regularly, ritually, as part of the
> > >>> annual round a management practices, whether or not any of the hives
> > >>> had a Foul Brood infection. The condition now is that much Foul Brood
> > >>> is resistant to Terramyacin, leaving us to return to the old method
> > >>> of treatment: burn the hives, burn the equipment, burn it all.
> > >>>
> > >>> I would really, really hate to see rabies arrive at a state like
> > >>> that. Foul Brood in bees is not going to kill anyone except the bees
> > >>> (we won't go into pollination losses). Treatment resistant rabies,
> > >>> on the other hand, is a horrifying possibility.
> > >>>
> > >>> Susan
> > >>> --
> > >>> Susan Layne Nielsen, Shambles Workshops           |"...Gently down the
> > >>> Beavercreek, OR, USA -- snielsen at orednet.org      |stream..." -- Anon.
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