Fwd: [Jacob-list] Rabies?
Dave & Katrina
oberlef at supernet.com
Fri Sep 13 17:35:37 EDT 2002
Or maybe some listers are aware of more flocks in this area that vaccinate
for rabies? I know most of my larger sheep breeding friends don't. Have
never heard it to be a problem. Has there ever been a documented case? or
is this practice simply prevention for what could possibly happen. Just
curious. Katrina
> [Original Message]
> From: Dave & Katrina <oberlef at supernet.com>
> To: jacob-list <jacob-list at jacobsheep.com>
> Date: 9/13/02 4:58:17 PM
> Subject: RE: Fwd: [Jacob-list] Rabies?
>
> Are rabies simply more of a problem in some areas? I have never met a
sheep breeder around here (at least that I am aware of)that vaccinated for
rabies. To be honest, I kind of chuckled the first time I heard of it.
Maybe I am just out of it or was raised by a mother who was
vaccine-suspicious.
> Katrina Lefever, Chicory Lane Farm
> Hanover, PA
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Katherine Wisor <creeksendfarm at mac.com>
> > To: <jacob-list at jacobsheep.com>
> > Date: 9/13/02 4:21:23 PM
> > Subject: Fwd: [Jacob-list] Rabies?
> >
> >
> >
> > Begin forwarded message:
> >
> > > From: katherine wisor <wisor at mac.com>
> > > Date: Fri Sep 13, 2002 4:17:07 PM US/Eastern
> > > To: jacob-list-request at jacobsheep.com
> > > Subject: Fwd: [Jacob-list] Rabies?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Begin forwarded message:
> > >
> > >> From: Katherine Wisor <creeksendfarm at mac.com>
> > >> Date: Fri Sep 13, 2002 4:11:12 PM US/Eastern
> > >> To: Susan Nielsen <snielsen at orednet.org>
> > >> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] Rabies?
> > >>
> > >> It hard for me to see the similarity between a vaccine and and
> > >> "anti"biotic (used to treat infection) Bacteria can became
resistant
> > >> to any treatment used to kill it . It just builds new defenses as
it
> > >> were. A vaccine builds antibodies within the body to prevent
> > >> infection, antibiotics kill an bacteria thats already invaded. If
> > >> you're giving the immune system something to fight off a viral
> > >> infection before the introduction of the virus it would seem
> > >> impossible to have have TOO MUCH protection. It really isn't the
> > >> same. Baiting has been done in the north in areas where rabies
cases
> > >> have have been out of control. Studies over 10 years have proven
> > >> the effectiveness of baiting. The cost is approx. 34 cents per
> > >> bait. I have been trying for sometime here in Charlotte, NC. to get
> > >> someone to listen to the stats. How can this not be safer than
have
> > >> even one child be bitten by a rabid animal? The cost I saw someone
> > >> had spent seem much lower than The $1000. + I've heard it cost
> > >> without insurance. Go
> > >> www.gis.queensu.ca/reporter/rabies-conference/biglerny.html or
look
> > >> under "raccoon rabies" check the sites . I hope this made sense to
> > >> non medical people. Maybe it just's a "Kathey " and "Katherine"
> > >> thing . Kathey thanks for bring it up ! K On Friday, September
> > >> 13, 2002, at 01:08 PM, Susan Nielsen wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> On Fri, 13 Sep 2002 ACAMDA at aol.com wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> As for all the wild critters, rabies vaccinations are available in
> > >>>> "bait"
> > >>>> form for areas that have a high incidence of rabies. You drop it
> > >>>> in rural
> > >>>> areas and the animals eat it and take in the vaccine.
> > >>>
> > >>> Boy, gee. This is not directed at Kathey personally (really, it is
> > >>> not:
> > >>> no flames here), but perhaps to any vet or agency that would
suggest
> > >>> such
> > >>> a practice, and to those of us who might consider it. It sounds
like
> > >>> a
> > >>> recipe for growing vaccine resistant rabies. Since no one can know
> > >>> what
> > >>> dosage is taken by wild animals consuming bait, I would hope the
> > >>> practice
> > >>> is rare.
> > >>>
> > >>> Among beekeepers it used to be common practice to feed Terramyacin
> > >>> in sugar-laced grease patties as a prophilactic against a condition
> > >>> called Foul Brood. It was done regularly, ritually, as part of the
> > >>> annual round a management practices, whether or not any of the hives
> > >>> had a Foul Brood infection. The condition now is that much Foul
Brood
> > >>> is resistant to Terramyacin, leaving us to return to the old method
> > >>> of treatment: burn the hives, burn the equipment, burn it all.
> > >>>
> > >>> I would really, really hate to see rabies arrive at a state like
> > >>> that. Foul Brood in bees is not going to kill anyone except the bees
> > >>> (we won't go into pollination losses). Treatment resistant rabies,
> > >>> on the other hand, is a horrifying possibility.
> > >>>
> > >>> Susan
> > >>> --
> > >>> Susan Layne Nielsen, Shambles Workshops |"...Gently down the
> > >>> Beavercreek, OR, USA -- snielsen at orednet.org |stream..." -- Anon.
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