Fwd: [Jacob-list] Rabies?

[Dave & Katrina]

Or maybe some listers are aware of more flocks in this area that vaccinate
for rabies?  I know most of my larger sheep breeding friends don't.  Have
never heard it to be a problem.  Has there ever been a documented case?  or
is this practice simply prevention for what could possibly happen.  Just
curious. Katrina

> [Original Message]
> From: Dave & Katrina <oberlef at supernet.com>
> To: jacob-list <jacob-list at jacobsheep.com>
 > Date: 9/13/02 4:58:17 PM
> Subject: RE: Fwd: [Jacob-list] Rabies?
>
> Are rabies simply more of a problem in some areas?  I have never met a
sheep breeder around here (at least that I am aware of)that vaccinated for
rabies. To be honest, I kind of chuckled the first time I heard of it. 
Maybe I am just out of it or was raised by a mother who was
vaccine-suspicious.  
> Katrina Lefever, Chicory Lane Farm
> Hanover, PA
> 
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Katherine Wisor <creeksendfarm at mac.com>
> > To: <jacob-list at jacobsheep.com>
>  > Date: 9/13/02 4:21:23 PM
> > Subject: Fwd: [Jacob-list] Rabies?
> >
> > 

> > 

> > Begin forwarded message:

> > 

> > > From: katherine wisor <wisor at mac.com>

> > > Date: Fri Sep 13, 2002  4:17:07 PM US/Eastern

> > > To: jacob-list-request at jacobsheep.com

> > > Subject: Fwd: [Jacob-list] Rabies?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Begin forwarded message:

> > >

> > >> From: Katherine Wisor <creeksendfarm at mac.com>

> > >> Date: Fri Sep 13, 2002  4:11:12 PM US/Eastern

> > >> To: Susan Nielsen <snielsen at orednet.org>

> > >> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] Rabies?

> > >>

> > >> It hard for me to see the similarity between a vaccine and and  

> > >> "anti"biotic (used to treat infection)  Bacteria can became
resistant  

> > >> to any treatment used to kill it .  It just builds new defenses as
it  

> > >> were. A vaccine builds antibodies within the body to prevent  

> > >> infection,  antibiotics kill an bacteria thats already invaded.   If


> > >> you're giving the immune system something to fight off a viral  

> > >> infection before the introduction of the virus it would seem  

> > >> impossible to have have TOO MUCH protection.  It really isn't the  

> > >> same.  Baiting has been done in the north in areas where rabies
cases  

> > >> have have been out of control.   Studies over 10 years have proven  

> > >> the  effectiveness of baiting.  The cost is approx. 34 cents per  

> > >> bait.  I have been trying for sometime here in Charlotte, NC. to get


> > >> someone to listen to the stats.   How can this not be safer than
have  

> > >> even one child be bitten by a rabid animal?   The cost I saw someone


> > >> had spent seem much lower than The $1000. + I've heard it cost  

> > >> without insurance. Go  

> > >> www.gis.queensu.ca/reporter/rabies-conference/biglerny.html  or 
look  

> > >> under "raccoon rabies" check the sites .  I hope this made sense to  

> > >> non medical people.  Maybe it just's a "Kathey " and "Katherine"   

> > >> thing .  Kathey thanks for bring it up !   K  On Friday, September  

> > >> 13, 2002, at 01:08 PM, Susan Nielsen wrote:

> > >>

> > >>> On Fri, 13 Sep 2002 ACAMDA at aol.com wrote:

> > >>>

> > >>>> As for all the wild critters, rabies vaccinations are available in


> > >>>> "bait"

> > >>>> form for areas that have a high incidence of rabies.  You drop it  

> > >>>> in rural

> > >>>> areas and the animals eat it and take in the vaccine.

> > >>>

> > >>> Boy, gee. This is not directed at Kathey personally (really, it is  

> > >>> not:

> > >>> no flames here), but perhaps to any vet or agency that would
suggest  

> > >>> such

> > >>> a practice, and to those of us who might consider it. It sounds
like  

> > >>> a

> > >>> recipe for growing vaccine resistant rabies. Since no one can know  

> > >>> what

> > >>> dosage is taken by wild animals consuming bait, I would hope the  

> > >>> practice

> > >>> is rare.

> > >>>

> > >>> Among beekeepers it used to be common practice to feed Terramyacin

> > >>> in sugar-laced grease patties as a prophilactic against a condition

> > >>> called Foul Brood. It was done regularly, ritually, as part of the

> > >>> annual round a management practices, whether or not any of the hives

> > >>> had a Foul Brood infection. The condition now is that much Foul
Brood

> > >>> is resistant to Terramyacin, leaving us to return to the old method

> > >>> of treatment: burn the hives, burn the equipment, burn it all.

> > >>>

> > >>> I would really, really hate to see rabies arrive at a state like

> > >>> that. Foul Brood in bees is not going to kill anyone except the bees

> > >>> (we won't go into pollination losses). Treatment resistant rabies,

> > >>> on the other hand, is a horrifying possibility.

> > >>>

> > >>> Susan

> > >>> --

> > >>> Susan Layne Nielsen, Shambles Workshops      	|"...Gently down the

> > >>> Beavercreek, OR, USA -- snielsen at orednet.org  	|stream..." -- Anon.

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