Fw: [Jacob-list] Ram down, help!

[Chovhani]

Well that's it exactly, prevention is always better than cure!

Melanie
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----- Original Message -----
From: Mary McCracken <mcmcc at ucinet.com>
To: Chovhani <melanie.boxall at sympatico.ca>
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: [Jacob-list] Ram down, help!


Grim.  I had this experience this summer.  A group got into about 200# of
grain.  I felt lucky after 24 hours with just diarrhea.  Then a sudden death
with bloat after the second day.  Then a group went off of feed and had
diarrhea.  Tried drylotting them.  Even but live cud from an experimental
fisculated cow into them to rebuild the stomach enzymes.  Still ended up
having one slowly waste away.  They are no longer able to assimilate feed
properly.  Another continued looking badly but didn't die and I ran her
through the action.  Another seemed cured and then showed signs of
founder....a pronounced ridge forming all around each hoof which causes
lameness and is a predictor of a lifelong sensitivity to grass feed...as in
foundered horses.  Since she was just a yearling and in pretty decent
condition again by this time I just butchered her.

I used a ram this year who had gotten into too hot of feed a few years ago
but survived it.  He never put on weight after that.  Looked a mess really
but seems to have done a good job of breeding the group I put with him.  I'd
certainly retain a ram lamb from the affected ram just in case.

I certainly know what you are going through.  And it's all the worse when
you know you COULD have prevented it by LATCHING THE DOOR>  RATS.  I no
longer keep that sort of quantity of grain in the barn.  Looking for a big
nonfuctional chest freezer that I can put grain in.  The sheep just dumped
and shattered the plastic garbage cans I was using for grain.  AUCK.

Good luck.  mary
-----Original Message-----
From: Chovhani <melanie.boxall at sympatico.ca>
To: Jacob-list at jacobsheep.com <Jacob-list at jacobsheep.com>
Date: Monday, January 22, 2001 6:41 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: [Jacob-list] Ram down, help!


>I know the labels you mean, but this scratch doesn't have one, it's a
"house
>mix" at the mill (to our recipe) so I know exactly what's in there, and
it's
>just grains, the only difference between this and the mix we give the sheep
>anyway is the proportions really. What concerns me now, as we are over the
>crisis with Zoe is Enterotoxaemia. Had a neighbour loses a goat to this
>after a major feed increase, and worried that having got over the crisis of
>the binge she might not be picking up because of this. Vet has suggested
>Probios which we are giving her, but I'd like to see her eager in the hay
>again, so far she's just nibbling at it.
>
>Melanie
>http://www.geocities.com/onionperogie
>http://earthhome.tripod.com
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: sbennett <sbennett at teleport.com>
>To: Chovhani <melanie.boxall at sympatico.ca>
>Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 10:24 AM
>Subject: Re: Fw: [Jacob-list] Ram down, help!
>
>
>Its been a long time since I kept any chicken scratch around (I had some
>goats get into it). But, check the label on the chicken scratch. There is
>something in it in too high a quantity making it poisonous to sheep and
>goats (copper, maybe? or might be something else, I don't remember). So,
>bloat may not be the problem. You might be able to check the label and
>give the vet a better idea of how to treat the ewe. I went to letting my
>chickens free range and giving them cracked corn only (and they are very
>healthy). I had a storage unit break-in a couple weeks ago (one of the
>kids didn't get the door latched all the way) and they ate about 15 lbs
>of cracked corn. I knew the culprits by the fact that they didn't eat any
>grain for a couple days, but none of them went down over it.
>
>Sorry for your loss, hope this helps,
>Debbie Bennett
>Feral Fibre
>
>>
>>Well, we lost him, but I just want to make sure I don't lose the little
>ewe.
>>She's just off her food, that is all. No visible bloat or other symptoms.
I
>>can give her a drench, but I don't have nutridrench, what can I
substitute?
>>The only vegetable oil I have is olive oil. Can I just add something sweet
>>to it, like molasses and get her to take that? The rest of the animals are
>>running about just fine.
>>
>>Melanie
>>http://www.geocities.com/onionperogie
>>http://earthhome.tripod.com
>
>
>
>
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