[Jacob-list] Dog Problems in Michigan

[Sugar Hill Farm]

Hi Kelly,

I too am in MI and I wonder if what your sheriff told you was just for your
county or for all of MI?  Luckily we haven't had any attacks, but the
coyotes are around here and bear too.

Oct 1 a new law goes in effect here in MI to reimburse farmers for sheep
attacks by coyotes and wolf, don't know about dogs.  That would be state
wide.

Marcia
Sugar Hill Farm, Jacob & Shetland sheep
American Bashkir Curly & Apploosa Horses
Deleware Chickens
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kelly Foster" <maplelanehmstd at dialpoint.net>
To: "Jacob List" <jacob-list at jacobsheep.com>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 8:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] Dog Problems in Michigan


> Hi all,
>  I just returned today with 2 wonderful guard dogs from Edd's place today
> because of dog problems.
>  In the last two weeks we have had a dog or dogs get in our barnyard which
I
> thought was safe for our critters. Th first time we lost a couple of meat
> rabbits, some chickens and a turkey. My neighbor was not so lucky-- she
lost
> both of her goats. I was mad -called the sherriff and animal control,
traps
> were set . They told me I had a right to protect my livestock at any cost.
I
> can shoot any animal (WILD OR TAME) on my property if it is a threat to my
> animals or family. The last time this creature came it killed 14 rabbits
(11
> angora) and several more chickens.  Cages were destroyed. We were not home
> at the time and I figured it was running out of rabbits and my sheep would
> probably be next.
>    Sooo- off to Edd's I went and I am now armed with a 410 and 2 dogs. War
> has been declared. I used to run off strays with a bb gun worried that it
> was someone's pet- HA! Those days are over. I figure if its on my propery
> its a threat.
>
>  Kelly
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Linda <wolfpen at rabun.net>
> To: cindymcdee at aol.com <cindymcdee at aol.com>; humbug7 at worldnet.att.net
> <humbug7 at worldnet.att.net>; jacob-list at jacobsheep.com
> <jacob-list at jacobsheep.com>
> Date: Saturday, September 23, 2000 4:06 AM
> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] Dog Problems in Michigan
>
>
> In Georgia the law says something like you cannot shoot a dog UNLESS it is
> doing damage to your property.  I consider a
> dog that is not mine and is on my property as damaging my property.  As
much
> as I'd love to, I have no right to shoot
> the dog that stays outside the fence barking all night at my dogs.  But,
if
> that dog ever gets through our fence, he's
> fair and, I believe, legal game.
>
> Linda
>
> On Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:07:18 EDT,  wrote:
> >In our state there is an old law on the books that lets farmers
> >protect their
> >livestock regardless.  Of course, the young yuppies and policemen
> >that don't
> >have agricultural backgrounds ignore it and tell us that we cannot
> >defend
> >ourselves from wandering predatory animals, but a lot of law
> >enforcement will
> >give you their opinion on the subject and they do not know or care
> >about what
> >the law says.
> >
> >The truth is that a person is allowed to defend their property.
> >There are a
> >variety of ways.  We went and bought a live dog trap to the tune of
> >99$ and
> >use nice hamburger or anything else to get the animal.
> >THEN........it
> >depends on whether the husband is at home as to what happens next.
> >He is a
> >softy.  I am not.  Sometimes, depending on the animal, I return it
> >to the
> >owner, because I know it got out by mistake.  With one owner, I want
> >to be
> >able to say that I would never harm his animals, so I trap his dogs
> >and drive
> >them 3 counties over and turn them over as strays to the humane
> >society (They
> >are never seen again!).  With other dogs, (I know the neighborhood
> >dogs) the
> >strays, they simply disappear quietly, when the hubby isn't home.  I
> >talk to
> >tons of old timers and they all have guns and stories to tell about
> >defending
> >their livestock.  Basically, a wandering dog WILL destroy livestock.
> > Period.
> > People that don't own livestock don't care about our losses.  So,
> >it might
> >be considered guerilla warfare.
> >
> >cindy j
> >
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