[AGL] Rememberin names
micael at micaelpriest.com
micael at micaelpriest.com
Mon Feb 12 15:31:30 EST 2007
Hi, boys and girls havn't been able to get on line as i was too crippled up
to walk to the wifi cafe and the clutch on my truck went out. mobile again
now and found some nice doctors that will take my medicare...so hoping to
get my legs fixed before too long.
Jeff, good to read you, hope this gets thru, i'm still not havin
particularly reliable results posting to this list.
There was a thing on Scientific American Frontiers, that show on PBS that
Alan Alda hosted, about memory research, that found that memories tied to a
strong emotional response( in this case holding one's elbow in ice water),
are stored differently from regular memories and are not only more vivid but
more easily accessed.
Getting the names of people you run into that you know but can't think of
is greatly facilitated by having a friend/partner who introduces themself
when they see you are stuck.
I have always had hell with this so whenever i meet someone i quote the
inimitable Crazy Carl Hickerson-Bull who said i know 4,000 people and only
400 names. Then i tell them its entirely possible we've done this before and
seven or eight more times and i'll probaly have it.
when i was a young guy i illustrated a series of filmstrips called the
Sparks Memory course. He recommended that you repeat the name when its
given, then try and use it at least twice in the ensuing conversation...this
helps burn it in. Also you can build a mnemonic picture involving the
syllables of the name and physical attributes of their face. This takes some
practice but is thoroughly effective.
so wher y'at these days? do ya still have the moonwalking jalapeno neon i
designed for BeBop?
micael
priest
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> Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 11:12:07 -0600
> From: "Madeleine Villatorro" <catzen at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [AGL] 3 restaurants in Austin
> To: "survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 60s"
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> Just trendy, somewhat expensive places. Zoot has been around at least 15
> years. It's like Jeffery's small, well-touted chef, reservations-only type
> of place located in an old house. Madeleine
>
> On 6 Feb 2007 13:37:25 -0800, globe at zipcon.net <globe at zipcon.net> wrote:
>>
>> Opened a trade magazine and noticed they were touting 3 new places in
>> Austin to
>> dine; Hotel San Jose, Zoot, and Tears of Joy Hot Sauce Shop. Are they the
>> typical rip off places?
>> Carolyn
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> Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 09:31:27 -0800 (PST)
> From: Jeffrey Nightbyrd <brazilnightbyrd2003 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [AGL] More on Remembring Names
> To: survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 60s
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> Gang,
>
> I told an old friend that I was worried that I couldn't remember names very well. Or they would pop in my mind several hours after I needed them. Always socially embarassing particularly when you can visualize all the stories and times you shared. My firend said,
> "Don't worry Jeff. You couldn't remember names when you were 20."
>
> What puzzles me is how this actually functions? Most the the research purports that an active brain doesn't dminish. An active mind generates new synapses and memories to the very end ...well as long as oxygen is getting to the noggin.
>
> Do we merely not remember names becuase there is such a vast amount of data in our hard drives as we age and like a old computer retrival takes longer?..or is it something else? Exercise or hyperbaric chambers which really get oxygenated blood to the brain seems to boost memory.
>
> But I wander if any of you have more scientific info on why we can't recall?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jeff
>
> fmaverick at austin.rr.com wrote:
>
> Yes she was. Lovely. Sometimes she introduced herself as Terrell
> Maverick Webb, so everyone would know she had TWO famous husbands.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: michele mason
> Date: Monday, February 5, 2007 3:11 pm
> Subject: Re: [AGL] different strokes, forgetting names
> To: survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 60s
>
>
>> Thanks Font. A wise grandmother?was she Mrs. Webb(sp?), the lovely
>> woman I knew?
>>
>> On Feb 5, 2007, at 3:05 PM, fmaverick at austin.rr.com wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > I always, always, say my name when I see someone (unless I see them
>> > regularly). My memory for names is not perfect and occasionally I
>> have
>> > a
>> > lapse that is beyond understanding - the person across the room is
>> > someone I KNOW that I KNEW - and I can usually recall the last city
>> > council meeting where I saw them in '96, and the kind of dog they
>> had.>
>> > I assume that even though I am on hugging terms, the person may be
>> > grieving or under some kind of stress, or may have lapses like
>> mine. I
>> > said my name to Molly in the elevator when I hugged her in
>> December,
>> > and
>> > I said my name to Dave yesterday. I said my name several times,
>> in
>> > fact.
>> > I think Michele got it right about withholding judgement in certain
>> > situations.
>> >
>> > One time, years ago, I chided my elderly grandmother for not
>> > introducing
>> > me to some woman at a gathering - the three of us had been in a
>> brief> conversation. She told me that she could not think of the
>> woman's name,
>> > and that it was de riguer for me to help the situation by
>> introducing> myself, and asking her name so that all three of us
>> would then be
>> > comfortable. I have never forgotten it.
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: michele mason
>> > Date: Monday, February 5, 2007 2:24 pm
>> > Subject: Re: [AGL] different strokes for different folks
>> > To: survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 60s
>> >
>> >
>> >> Could be. My cynical side would agree. She did remember their names
>> >> and
>> >> why would I matter?
>> >> I mean, how does one know to judge harshly without personal
>> evidence?>> I'll be away from the mac tomorrow, working on the
>> multitude of
>> >> paperwork.
>> >> Wishing all another lovely day.
>> >> mm
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Feb 5, 2007, at 12:43 PM, Michael Eisenstadt wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Michele,
>> >>>
>> >>> apparently Ann had different strokes for different folks.
>> >>>
>> >>> i remember her as gov giving a brief address indoors
>> >>> at an art thing - Mexic-arte i think.
>> >>>
>> >>> standing in front of her i moved a little to the left then
>> >>> a little to the right, but she had no trouble not noticing
>> >>> me. if she called out to you in a crowd to ask you
>> >>> about your children, she was playing you (and them)
>> >>> like a piano.
>> >>>
>> >>> mike
>> >
>>
>
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> Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 12:33:48 -0700
> From: "Gerry" <mesmo at gilanet.com>
> Subject: Re: [AGL] More on Remembring Names
> To: "survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 60s"
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> I read somewhere a long time ago that the number of synapses decreases with age. Synapses are the brain's transmitter circuits, you need them to make the connection between the new idea and the data base where your memory is stored. So, if the synapses decrease in number then your new idea has to wait in line for the next available synapse before it can retrieve data from the database.
>
> A few years ago I added L-Phenylalanine to my daily supplement menu. It is supposed to help the body synthesize the neurotransmitters dopamine and norepinephrine. Does it work? I guess so. My memory is hardly flawless but it works more often than not, altho sometimes it takes awhile...
>
> BTW Jeff, what was that airline to Brazil you told me about years ago? And do you know of an airline that has good rates to Lima, Peru?
> G
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jeffrey Nightbyrd
> To: survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 60s
> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 10:31 AM
> Subject: [AGL] More on Remembring Names
>
>
> Gang,
>
> I told an old friend that I was worried that I couldn't remember names very well. Or they would pop in my mind several hours after I needed them. Always socially embarassing particularly when you can visualize all the stories and times you shared. My firend said,
> "Don't worry Jeff. You couldn't remember names when you were 20."
>
> What puzzles me is how this actually functions? Most the the research purports that an active brain doesn't dminish. An active mind generates new synapses and memories to the very end ...well as long as oxygen is getting to the noggin.
>
> Do we merely not remember names becuase there is such a vast amount of data in our hard drives as we age and like a old computer retrival takes longer?..or is it something else? Exercise or hyperbaric chambers which really get oxygenated blood to the brain seems to boost memory.
>
> But I wander if any of you have more scientific info on why we can't recall?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jeff
>
> fmaverick at austin.rr.com wrote:
>
> Yes she was. Lovely. Sometimes she introduced herself as Terrell
> Maverick Webb, so everyone would know she had TWO famous husbands.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: michele mason
> Date: Monday, February 5, 2007 3:11 pm
> Subject: Re: [AGL] different strokes, forgetting names
> To: survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 60s
>
>
> > Thanks Font. A wise grandmother-was she Mrs. Webb(sp?), the lovely
> > woman I knew?
> >
> > On Feb 5, 2007, at 3:05 PM, fmaverick at austin.rr.com wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > I always, always, say my name when I see someone (unless I see them
> > > regularly). My memory for names is not perfect and occasionally I
> > have
> > > a
> > > lapse that is beyond understanding - the person across the room is
> > > someone I KNOW that I KNEW - and I can usually recall the last city
> > > council meeting where I saw them in '96, and the kind of dog they
> > had.>
> > > I assume that even though I am on hugging terms, the person may be
> > > grieving or under some kind of stress, or may have lapses like
> > mine. I
> > > said my name to Molly in the elevator when I hugged her in
> > December,
> > > and
> > > I said my name to Dave yesterday. I said my name several times,
> > in
> > > fact.
> > > I think Michele got it right about withholding judgement in certain
> > > situations.
> > >
> > > One time, years ago, I chided my elderly grandmother for not
> > > introducing
> > > me to some woman at a gathering - the three of us had been in a
> > brief> conversation. She told me that she could not think of the
> > woman's name,
> > > and that it was de riguer for me to help the situation by
> > introducing> myself, and asking her name so that all three of us
> > would then be
> > > comfortable. I have never forgotten it.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: michele mason
> > > Date: Monday, February 5, 2007 2:24 pm
> > > Subject: Re: [AGL] different strokes for different folks
> > > To: survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 60s
> > >
> > >
> > >> Could be. My cynical side would agree. She did remember their names
> > >> and
> > >> why would I matter?
> > >> I mean, how does one know to judge harshly without personal
> > evidence?>> I'll be away from the mac tomorrow, working on the
> > multitude of
> > >> paperwork.
> > >> Wishing all another lovely day.
> > >> mm
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Feb 5, 2007, at 12:43 PM, Michael Eisenstadt wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Michele,
> > >>>
> > >>> apparently Ann had different strokes for different folks.
> > >>>
> > >>> i remember her as gov giving a brief address indoors
> > >>> at an art thing - Mexic-arte i think.
> > >>>
> > >>> standing in front of her i moved a little to the left then
> > >>> a little to the right, but she had no trouble not noticing
> > >>> me. if she called out to you in a crowd to ask you
> > >>> about your children, she was playing you (and them)
> > >>> like a piano.
> > >>>
> > >>> mike
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
> Jeffrey Nightbyrd
> 512 416-9222
> brazilnightbyrd2003 at yahoo.com
>
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