[AGL] Fwd: Texas: Stop Shoot First Shooter in his tire tracks...

[Michael Eisenstadt]

Michele,

your son the DPS trooper beat the snot out of a perp?

that is so unChristian of you. i dont know how you
reconcile this in your mind, much less say it openly.

Mike

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "michele mason" <yaya.m at earthlink.net>
To: "survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 60s" 
<austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 9:10 AM
Subject: Re: [AGL] Fwd: Texas: Stop Shoot First Shooter in his tire 
tracks...


As explained by the deputy who came: It is not illegal to fire off
road, but under no condition is it legal to fire onto the road—even in
self-defense. While I think the horse-killer deserved to die, I would
rather have disabled the car, if just to ask why? does this sick jerk
do this. Besides, provided he ran without the gun, I would have
thoroughly enjoyed watching my son run him down and beat the snot outta
him. mm

On Dec 8, 2006, at 10:38 AM, Frances Morey wrote:


> Hell, I'da shot at the horse drive-by shooter's car. If his defense

> would have been that he was shooting horses I would have said I was

> standing by the horse and thought he was shooting at me! I grew up

> with guns, too, even beat another kid at the hunting camp in a target

> shooting face off--he had won a ribbon in Boy Scout camp outshooting

> 500 other scouts. My dad was really proud of me. His dad gathered him

> up and they left hunting camp early.

> It's like this with me and guns, if you introduce a gun in a movie

> script at some point it has to be fired before the end of the movie. I

> feel that if the potential is there, at some point it will be used,

> sometimes by the intruder--so I just as soon not have them or keep

> them.

> Once the bullets start flying and the scene is scattered with bodies

> it is moot to talk about who shot first. I try to avoid gun totin'

> neighborhoods. That's probably just a delusion.

> When Whitman happened guns came out of the woodwork all over the place

> even though the students were at that time forbidden to keep firearms.

> Best,

> Frances

>

> michele mason <yaya.m at earthlink.net> wrote:

>> This sounds like gone too far. I am a gun carrier and do want the

>> right

>> to shoot anyone who breaks in to my place, or is menacing my land.

>> I've

>> had some scary close calls. So far, a warning shot seems to keep

>> "them"

>> away, but I'm still alert. I want to be sure I'm not signing something

>> that might hinder my rights.

>> We even had one guy driving by to shoot horses! He fired at mine, but

>> missed. He did manage to kill several in Bastrop co. I don't know that

>> they ever caught him. We couldn't shoot back, not even to disable his

>> car because he was "on the roadway". If this bill gives me that right,

>> I can't oppose it. Need more info. mm

>>

>> On Dec 7, 2006, at 4:12 PM, Frances Morey wrote:

>>

>> >

>> >

>> > StopTheNRA wrote:Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006

>> > 15:25:47 -0600 (CST)

>> >> From: StopTheNRA

>> >> To: frances_morey at yahoo.com

>> >> Subject: Texas: Help Stop Shoot First!

>> >>

>> >> If this email does not display correctly, click here to open it in

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>> >> If passed, such a law would make it legal for a gun owner to shoot

>> >> and kill another person even when they could have safely gotten

>> away,

>> >> and even if they are in a public place where innocent people could

>> be

>> >> shot in the crossfire. The shooter does not have to prove their

>> >> life was in danger, but only that they “reasonably” felt their life

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>> >> shooter if they are injured or killed in the crossfire. According

>> to

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>> >>

>> >> This legislation permits the average citizen to bypass our entire

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>> police

>> >> officer, prosecutor, judge, and executioner -- but it doesn’t stop

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