[AGL] looked it up in the archives. you can too

[Harry Edwards]

sounds like he might have been merely saying go fuck yourself.

On Aug 18, 2006, at 8:08 AM, Michael Eisenstadt wrote:

> I went looking through the archives of AGL and found Jim Strong's
> original message. Also the headers which showed that he sent it.
>
> This is around the end of August 2004. You can look at it in
> context at http://www.pairlist.net/pipermail/austin-ghetto-list/
>
> Here is some of this thread which I just found in the archives.
> First the headers, then a long self-indulgent letter of mine
> reproducing what Jim Strong said, this in response to a letter
> from Pepi.
>
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>
> Jon,
>
> Jim Strong denies sending me his message?????
>
> Here are the headers of the message if you need proof I received it.
> The rhetoric of the message itself is pure Jim Strong. I would be hard
> pressed to invent the misspellings or think to cuss in Yiddish or to
> speak as he did of my wife.
>
> Return-Path: <strongjim at yahoo.com>
> Received: from web80302.mail.yahoo.com (web80302.mail.yahoo.com
> [66.218.79.18])
>  by mx1.hotpop.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 7CBA9E8892
>  for <michaele at HotPop.com>; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 16:24:43 +0000 (UTC)
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> Received: from [207.70.170.154] by web80302.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; 
> Fri, 27
> Aug 2004 09:24:45 PDT
> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 09:24:45 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Jim Strong <strongjim at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: Theodorakis interview
> To: austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net
> Cc: michaele at HotPop.com
> In-Reply-To: <001e01c48c4f$596f7c00$a9bad6c6 at baal>
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> X-HotPOP-Delivered-To: michaele at HotPop.com
>
> From: "Pepi Plowman" <pepstoil at yahoo.com>
> To: <austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net>
> Cc: "Ghetto 2" <GHETTO2 at LISTSERV.WHATHELPS.COM>
> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 9:28 PM
> Subject: Re: Response
>
>
>> Mike, you remind me of Don Quixote, fighting
>> windmills! You want to pick a fight whether there's
>> one there or not! Is this a late midlife crisis, or
>> what?  You send a blip out of the blue talking about
>> how you were insulted by an e-mail sent by Jim Strong,
>> but you don't forward the e-mail.  There's no way to
>> know what Jim meant without seeing it, albeit he
>> rightly figured it was personal.
>
> It was personal but he posted it both to me and
> to agl. I should have allowed it to go through but
> it was so creepy I was ashamed to.
>
> That was a mistake it seems. Here's his email
> in its entirety
>
> START HERE
>
> --- Michael Eisenstadt <michaele at HotPOP.com> wrote:
>
>> http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/469781.html
>>
>> very long interview with Theodorakis the great Greek
>> composer by an Israeli journalist
>>
>> he is full of it just like Jim Strong and others but
>> more nuanced.
>>
>> here's a snippet
> =================
>   <reply>
>    what a pathetic, whiney little schnorra weasel you
> are mikey ... i. e. Gai kakhen afenyam ....
>    or, in the laternative, go engage in your favorite
> pasttime - anal (and/or) banal intercourse with your
> significant other doppleganager ...
>    maybe you should try to get another waiter job -
> and avoid being fired this time for being a flaming
> asshole with the customers ...
>
> peace and have another xanax.
>
> STOP HERE
>
> I shouldnt have showed to Madelon as it upset her.
>
> What set him off I don't know. I said that Theodorakis
> and Jim Strong and others are full of it. The expression
> "full of it" seems so anodyne so what set him off?
>
> Pepi, I want you to know that I take pills for my male
> menopause and the tests show that it is under control.
> The figures are in range and that's science. Unlike
> FHR (female hormone replacement) medication ours
> is distilled from horny stallion pee.
>
> Pepi also said
>
>> You are developing paranoid conceptualizations,
>> as ever, as you enumerate at length friends and
>> acquaintances in consideration of their possible
>> view of you.
>
> At length? This is so unfair. Jon Ford mistakenly
> identified Wayne Johnson (40 year friendship)
> and Gerry Storm as having dissed me on
> JSDGMLG2.
>
> I wrote merely to disabuse him of an error. Jon
> has never even MET Wayne. Gerry I know from
> the Raw Deal. Jon Ford spoke ONLY of Wayne
> and Gerry.
>
> I shoulda stopped there. But at the keyboard a
> counterbalancing contrast seemed to be needed.
> So I named JS, Simmons, Ted Samsel and
> Fontaine also as folks who really REALLY dont like
> me. Pepi, that aint paranoid conceptualizations,
> that's simply the way it is. It's only 4 people, it's
> not a big deal. Sorry it's such a problem for you.
>
> Afterwards Wayne confirmed my claim of friendship.
> And Gerry publicly giggled at Wayne's revelation of the
> LEGUME conspiracy against me.
>
> You're right about email being an imperfect medium.
> I have always thought that the charm of OUR maillist
> was that we knew each other in real life and saw
> one another at parties. So when reading Karen or
> Connie or other folks that we actually know in real life,
> it always strikes me how lifelike their emails are,
> you can almost hearing them speaking, it is SO them.
>
> As compared to folks one knows ONLY through
> email.
>
> I think the problem with my letters is that the
> charm of full self-expression is too tempting for
> me. My self-expression IS different from the
> usual Texan sensibility, I know that. But my view
> is that if I find myself living among folks with a
> more buttoned-up sensibility, the last thing I
> would do in my whole life would be to adopt it.
> Alas, this decision does not easily make me
> friends nor do I have any ambition to run for
> elected office.
>
> It's like Jack Nicholson at the end of the Sean
> Penn directed movie The Pledge where
> Nicholson is sitting on the porch of his lakeside
> house drinking a beer and arguing with himself
> with gestures. Or is it?
>
> Mike
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