grounds for optimism in the Zionist entity-Palestinian problem

[Forrest Gunter]

Boy Howdy, am I glad to not be such a Cassandra, whatever that means.  
Anyway, maybe I'm as corny as Kansas in August, but I'm pleased as punch 
that silly ole me am cockeyed optimist enough to imagine at least the 
possibility of there being some light at the end of the 
rainbow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And Season's Hopefulness to All!!!!!!!!!

>From: "Wayne Johnson" <cadaobh@shentel.net>
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>Well, yes and no, Mike.  Did the sheik deserve to die?  Probably, along 
>with a major mouthfull of creeps just like him.  Does Israel have the 
>"right" to defend itself?  Of course it does.  And it can keep on defending 
>itself until absolutely no life of any kind exists from Damascus to the Red 
>Sea. What is justifiable may still be a long-term recipe for disaster.
>
>To be clear: there is no "Win-Win" game here as long as everyone thinks 
>they have the right to kill the other guy.  Does this approbation extend to 
>the Hamas?  Absofuckinglutely!
>
>However, the "rationales" on both sides will simply mean the coffin makers 
>will enjoy a long and profitable career for generations to come.  No one 
>will "ever" live in a "peaceful state of mind", no "quiet enjoyment" of 
>your home, street, neighborhood, kabbutz, shopping center, whatever.  
>Lose:Lose, all the way into the future.  What jolly good fun for the makers 
>of new armaments toys, eh?
>
>My further useless opinion is that the current Regime squatting in the 
>White House has a purely "utilitarian" view of the situation.  Let's let 
>the Israeli's spend their money on arms and the killing fields so the US 
>doesn't have to.  So accommodating, so useful, so nicely far away. Not to 
>mention: it's only "ragheads and Jews" what are being killed and maimed 
>anyway, so who gives a shit.  (Not like they was Methodists or something!)
>
>You see, being a "Christian" has soooo many advantages.  Especially when 
>you are: rich, evil and stupid.  So the US won't do Jack Shit...other than 
>to provide new killing toys...and the innocents will be killed on both 
>sides in their mosques and pizza parlors.  This country (with a few 
>exceptions) really doesn't care about anything but making money and the 
>mid-East is one of the best "sellers market" in my lifetime.  We can ship 
>our "designated terrorists" off to Egypt or Jordan or Timbuktu so as to 
>maintain our aura of "civilized Christian deniability" until we run out of 
>people to torture. Happily, the Monkey King Regime can now turn to 
>"Eco-terrorists" to experiment upon.....in Egypt, mind you.
>
>Cheers.
>
>wgJ
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Eisenstadt" 
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>Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 3:11 PM
>Subject: Re: grounds for optimism in the Zionist entity-Palestinian problem
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>>From: "Wayne Johnson" <cadaobh@shentel.net>
>>
>>>Mike.
>>>
>>>If I understand one of the "sub-texts" of this message, it would be that
>>>since Israel and Egypt are cooperating in various "means"  of "attacking
>>the
>>>Islamic Fundamentalist Problem" there may be a "positive outcome" from
>>this
>>>collaboration.  Right?
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>>I don't do sub-texts. What you read is what I mean.
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>>>So, the desire to achieve a good "end"....some kind of long-term
>>semi-peace
>>>in the Palestinian firmament therefore justifies the use of whatever
>>"means"
>>>seems to be effective, at least temporarily.
>>
>>Are you saying that a missile fired from a non-manned drone
>>targeted on and hitting the crippled sheik in the wheelchair
>>was something the Israelis should NOT have done?
>>
>>If that is your meaning, to me and to most other chosen Peepul,
>>you are on Cloud 9. You seem to be suggesting some kind
>>of Ghandian non-resistance to enemies who are killing you.
>>The sheik was the leader of Hamas. Hamas, dear bubba,
>>remember them? Those are the folks who do martyr operations
>>in buses and pizza parlors.
>>
>>Your message amounts to saying to the Israelis "dont defend
>>yourselves, else you are murderers." Easy enough for you to
>>practice the higher morality living in safety in a peaceful & bucolic
>>Virginia.
>>
>>Regards to Honor,
>>
>>Mike
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