let's not do nuance

[Wayne Johnson]

Oh, I wish I didn't feel compelled to write this.  I know, just know, that I
will surely regret it.  But I just can't find any sane and
non-Transcendental argument for the existence of a "soul".  I really,
really wish it were true and that we could all come back again, but my
belief is that when the "biological" light goes out...it stays out.  Finito!
No mas!

>From my perspective, we have some tens of thousands of years of "wishful"
thinking aided and abetted by a bunch of semi-literate, semi-criminals who
wish to profit by spreading mystical and irrational beliefs.  Did Arthur go
to Avalon?  Probably not, as much as I would like it to be so. Ain't going
to see him again.  Nor any other person what has kicked the "biological"
bucket.  Doornails is doornails and when you is gone, you is over.

So.  What do I have to look forward to?  Not a damn thing.  Is that
existential or what?

Cheers until then...."Happy Trails to You, until we meet again".

wj

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pepi Plowman" <pepstoil@yahoo.com>
To: <austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net>
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: let's try to do nuance


>
> --- Michael Eisenstadt <michaele@ando.pair.com> wrote:
> > Pepi,
> >
> > Thanks for writing at length about this.
> >
> > No, I don't speak it.
> >
> > In Hebrew school (to prepare for confirmation at 13
> > for the sake of my religious grandmother who would
> > have had a fit if I wasn't confirmed), we used to
> > say
> > Baruch ator, I don't know anymore.
> >
> > Baruch ator are the first 2 words of all the
> > prayers.
> > Actually we worked our way through quite a bit of
> > Genesis reading it in the original which was my
> > original
> > introduction to the ENORMOUS charm of reading a
> > foreign language.When I slowly worked my way through
> >
> > one of the books of the Iliad in the original many
> > years
> > later, I thought back to Miss Snow with the enormous
> >
> > boobs driving us like Gadarene swine through the
> > beginning
> > of the bible.
>
> Amusing visuals here!
>
> >
> > As for your and your sisters' previous lives, that
> > sounds
> > like hard work.
>
> Seems like it always is.
>
> >
> > Let me get this straight: the jews burnt in the
> > ovens
> > came back as the Plowman sisters (or some of the
> > Plowman sisters); the Nazis who died came back as
> > Israelis.
> >
> > I still come back to this simple question: if you
> > and your
> > sisters love all people all that much, how do you
> > come
> > to the conclusion that the Israelis are reborn
> > Nazis?
>
> A few Israelis, perhaps.  Certainly, not all.  This is
> merely supposition, in any case, as we both know.  But
> I would say by observing the ones who manifest a
> similar persona with a similar agenda (except for the
> reversal of the victims), however you would describe a
> Nazi.  Sharon, perhaps?  Hey, for all we know, Arafat
> may have been a Jew in his past lifetime!
> >
>
> > You write:
> >
> > > But may you not hate too much, it's bad for the
> > soul
> > > (I know, you don't believe in its existence.  Oh,
> > > well, so be it).
> >
> > I'm not the hater. I was taking exception to other
> > folks'
> > hatred. Is that allowed in your scheme of things?
>
> You were taking exception to others with your
> assumption that they hated--sometimes an incorrect
> one.  And certainly, we've already been here...you're
> allowed to be as incorrect as you like, and I'm
> allowed to perceive you that way, whether you see it
> that way or not.
>
> >
> > And yes, it is totally bad for the soul. I believe
> > in the
> > existence of the soul, I just don't believe in its
> > survival
> > after death. That's for cowards who don't want to
> > accept that they must die and stay dead.
>
> Death is a part of Life--they're not opposites--our
> energies continue into perpetuity.  Any scientist will
> tell you that there is no energy on earth that can be
> made to disappear completely--it merely transforms
> into something else.
>
> It has nothing to do with being a coward or not.   If
> one leaves one's body and is awake, as everyone does
> when sleeping, it's enough proof for me that there is
> a soul. You're crossing a room.  No, you're floating
> across the room.  You look down at your body.  No
> body.  A light the color of a Peace Rose.  Is that
> Life?
>
> >
> > And I aint got no agenda.
>
> Well, good, I'm glad to hear that!
>
>  If you or others want to
> > believe in up to 5 impossible things before
> > breakfast
> > like the Red Queen in Alice in Wonderland, hey! be
> > my guest!
> >
> Thanks, my friend, for taking a different tone with
> me.
>
> Best to you,
>
> Pepi
> > Best,
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > P.S. When it comes to learning foreign languages,
> > unless
> > one is a very talented linguini, you hafta choose
> > which
> > one or two or three is it is worth learning in terms
> > of
> > what's written in said languages. Having been an
> > Asian monk
> > in a previous life, have you learnt or remembered
> > how to
> > speak or read Asian monk books? Or is that
> > considered
> > unnecessary.
> >
> Mostly, as I understand it, a veil drops when people
> are born, hiding past lives from them.  Some people
> have bleedthroughs, like me and my sisters.  I have
> the ability (and so do my sisters) to learn any
> language on earth, if we were to spend time in that
> country.  I've had Chinese friends and learned a few
> words from them, but I've never been immersed in the
> language; I've taken a couple of semesters of
> Japanese, have a great accent and that is all--I loved
> writing the kanji; the same could be said for German,
> except I took it in high school for two years and
> never opened the book (I thought it an ugly language);
> I speak and write Spanish and French; defend myself in
> Italian; have translated Portuguese; took three years
> of Latin (but never bothered to study, so can't say I
> really know it); can understand just about any Latin-
> based language when spoken to me.  My sister speaks
> and writes really GOOD Spanish, Italian, French and
> German; speaks Hebrew and some Arabic; wants to learn
> Russian.  I want to learn Chinese.  Life isn't long
> enough to learn every language or to remember every
> past life.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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