Senator Zell Miller on the floor
Wayne Johnson
austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
Sat Feb 28 09:30:27 2004
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Re: Senator Zell Miller on the floorI don't know but there might be an =
attorney somewhere who would be interested in this issue. Certainly, =
any court convictions would open the way for this investigation. =20
Bring 'em on!
wj
----- Original Message -----=20
From: susi=20
To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net=20
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: Senator Zell Miller on the floor
i live in eugene oregon, and as i recall every west coast electric =
utility had rate increases, as a result of the electrical fiasco in =
california that enron has been accused of perpretrating. that gridlock, =
or whatever is was , caused everything to resonate down the line, the =
aluminum factories sold their contractual electricty back to the bpa at =
a profit, (i don't remember if the factories were even running then, but =
if they were that created unemployment) anyway many of us continue to be =
directly affected by the higher electricity rates , so the question is, =
when the enron executives are convicted can damages suits be filled =
against them in a class action sort of way ??
susi
From: "Wayne Johnson" <cadaobh@shentel.net>
Reply-To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 08:44:55 -0500
To: <austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net>
Subject: Re: Senator Zell Miller on the floor
Oy, I completely agree with the "decency" problem. Most of this =
"soft-porn" shit is simply there to titilate the teenage to mid-20s male =
demographic (for beer, car, etc. sales). Sex is great, even sex on the =
screen but in most instances it is completely gratuitous and banal. =
(Close shot of heaving male buttocks, close shot of woman's mouth with =
accompanying ooohs and ahhhs. Borrrrrrriing!) Usually has little to do =
with the story, or nothing that couldn't be simply referred to (over =
coffee the next morning, etc.etc.) but more to do with who is the =
current "hot chick" and will she (read: Halle Barry/et al) take off her =
clothes? Pant. Pant. Uch.
If you want to read something about historical parallels, look at =
the Roman Historians, especially Tacitus and others writing about the =
"Silver Age". Rome began as a pretty Puritanicall and very Matriachal =
society and then, with its incredible growth and ascension, began to =
lose it's own "moral center". Claudius writes about this. (Check out =
the wonderful BBC series I, Claudius with Derek Jacoby, et al.) =20
It is much easier to rail against tits and gay marriage than to look =
at the real obscenities like destruction of the environment, our =
children's future or lack of medical care...from infants to elderly. =
Disgusting.
Spring is beginning to show promise here. How are things in Austin?
wj
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Frances Morey <mailto:frances_morey@yahoo.com> =20
To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net=20
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: Senator Zell Miller on the floor
Thanks for setting me straight on Zell, I do agree that there is a =
decency deficit, though. I think the news and entertainment industry in =
America is on a slippery slope to low taste with downright porn =
overtones, ie. prime time programming. Some of the scripted stuff is =
salacious--filled with double entendes and sexual innuendo. It is like =
the Ranger highjinks way back when, seeing what can be gotten away with, =
but the Ranger was so tame and innocent by comparison. I guess it was =
the line about "silence is not golden, it is yellow" that got me on =
board. That is certainly the way I feel about much of the poop that the =
administration is dishing out.
Hope you and Honor are well,
Frances=20
Wayne Johnson <cadaobh@shentel.net> wrote:
What a bunch of right wing, psuedo Christian Hokum! ...
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I don't know but there might be an =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Bring 'em on!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 27, 2004 =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Senator Zell =
Miller on the=20
floor</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>i live in eugene oregon, and as i recall every west =
coast=20
electric utility had rate increases, as a result of the electrical =
fiasco in=20
california that enron has been accused of perpretrating. that =
gridlock, or=20
whatever is was , caused everything to resonate down the line, the =
aluminum=20
factories sold their contractual electricty back to the bpa at a =
profit, (i=20
don't remember if the factories were even running then, but if they =
were that=20
created unemployment) anyway many of us continue to be directly =
affected by=20
the higher electricity rates , so the question is, when the enron =
executives=20
are convicted can damages suits be filled against them in a class =
action sort=20
of way ??<BR>susi<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR><B>From: </B>"Wayne Johnson"=20
<cadaobh@shentel.net><BR><B>Reply-To:=20
</B>austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net<BR><B>Date: </B>Wed, 25 Feb 2004 =
08:44:55 -0500<BR><B>To:=20
</B><austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net><BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: =
Senator=20
Zell Miller on the floor<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial>Oy, I completely agree =
with the=20
"decency" problem. Most of this "soft-porn" shit is simply =
there to=20
titilate the teenage to mid-20s male demographic (for beer, car, =
etc.=20
sales). Sex is great, even sex on the screen but in most =
instances it=20
is completely gratuitous and banal. (Close shot of heaving male =
buttocks,=20
close shot of woman's mouth with accompanying ooohs and ahhhs.=20
Borrrrrrriing!) Usually has little to do with the story, =
or=20
nothing that couldn't be simply referred to (over coffee the =
next=20
morning, etc.etc.) but more to do with who is the current "hot =
chick" and=20
will she (read: Halle Barry/et al) take off her clothes? Pant. =
Pant.=20
Uch.<BR></FONT></FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial>If =
you want to=20
read something about historical parallels, look at the Roman =
Historians,=20
especially Tacitus and others writing about the "Silver Age". =
Rome=20
began as a pretty Puritanicall and very Matriachal society and then, =
with=20
its incredible growth and ascension, began to lose it's own "moral =
center".=20
Claudius writes about this. (Check out the wonderful BBC =
series=20
I, Claudius with Derek Jacoby, et al.) =
<BR></FONT></FONT><BR><FONT=20
size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial>It is much easier to rail against tits =
and gay=20
marriage than to look at the real obscenities like destruction of =
the=20
environment, our children's future or lack of medical care...from =
infants to=20
elderly. Disgusting.<BR></FONT></FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2><FONT =
face=3DArial>Spring is beginning to show promise here. How are =
things in=20
Austin?<BR></FONT></FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2><FONT=20
face=3DArial>wj<BR></FONT></FONT>
<BLOCKQUOTE>----- Original Message ----- <BR><B>From:</B> Frances =
Morey=20
<mailto:frances_morey@yahoo.com> <BR><B>To:</B>=20
austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net <BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February =
24,=20
2004 9:46 PM<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Senator Zell Miller on the=20
floor<BR><BR>Thanks for setting me straight on Zell, I do agree =
that there=20
is a decency deficit, though. I think the news and entertainment =
industry=20
in America is on a slippery slope to low taste with downright porn =
overtones, ie. prime time programming. Some of the scripted stuff =
is=20
salacious--filled with double entendes and sexual innuendo. It is =
like the=20
Ranger highjinks way back when, seeing what can be gotten away =
with, but=20
the Ranger was so tame and innocent by comparison. I guess it was =
the line=20
about "silence is not golden, it is yellow" that got me on board. =
That is=20
certainly the way I feel about much of the poop that the =
administration is=20
dishing out.<BR>Hope you and Honor are well,<BR>Frances=20
<BR><BR><B><I>Wayne Johnson <cadaobh@shentel.net></I></B> =
wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial>What a bunch of =
right wing,=20
psuedo Christian Hokum! ...<BR></FONT></FONT>
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