[Austin-ghetto-list] Re: Position of women in Afghanistan

[Jon Ford]

Osama bin Baldauf-- better me than welfare--these are Calworks students! The 
feds pay 'em. Don't tell Bush about it-- we'd get investigated for 
"harboring suspected terrorists on the taxpayer's dollar"! Anyway, the big 
clean-out was her idea-- I just made a couple of suggestions, and voila! 
More got  done than I had dreamed of.American students, in contrast, only do 
exactly what you tell them to do, and whenever possible, they take a loaf 
break.

Jon


>From: "JIM  BALDAUF" <jfbaldauf@prodigy.net>
>To: "Jon Ford" <jonmfordster@hotmail.com>, <frances_morey@excite.com>,   
><michaele@ando.pair.com>, <austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net>
>Subject: Re: [Austin-ghetto-list] Re: Position of women in Afghanistan
>Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 21:44:26 -0500
>
>It was written:
>
> >My Afghani assistant ... recruited her husband and son to help clean out
>the lab<
>
>But all worked for Mullah Jon!
>
>Cordially,
>Osama bin baldauf
>"You are always welcome in my Father's tent."
>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Jon Ford <jonmfordster@hotmail.com>
>To: <frances_morey@excite.com>; <michaele@ando.pair.com>;
><austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net>
>Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 8:56 PM
>Subject: [Austin-ghetto-list] Re: Position of women in Afghanistan
>
>
> > (woops--my computer took over and sent this too soon!
> > The  oppression of Afghani women is horrific, and they can be killed for
>the
> > slightest infraction of the code of modesty and obedience. I know many
> > Afghani women, and have hired several to work with me in my labs. They 
>all
> > put female oppresion high on their list for not wanting to return to
> > Afghanistan. NONE wear veils or big tent-like black garments. In
>traditional
> > Muslim societies, women can be forceful figures. My Afghani assistant 
>last
> > semester recruited her husband and son to help clean out the lab,
>redecorate
> > the walls, and haul out old computer manuals. The guys were obedient and
> > humble under the direction of Mom!
> >
> > Jon
> >
> > >From: Frances Morey <frances_morey@excite.com>
> > >Reply-To: <frances_morey@excite.com>
> > >To: Jon Ford <jonmfordster@hotmail.com>, michaele@ando.pair.com,
> > >austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
> > >Subject: Re: [Austin-ghetto-list] Somber Reading
> > >Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 09:58:16 -0700 (PDT)
> > >
> > >I certainly agree with this. Yet in Afganistan the ONLY industry is war
>and
> > >conflict. The terrorism, if it works the way they wanted, is to provoke
>us
> > >into war, a patriotic act from their point of view. The madness of the
> > >Taliban leaders, intrestingly no individual has come to the fore to be
> > >considered the head of it, is in their unwillingness to allow women to
>show
> > >themselves, much less influence their socitey. Women must be silenced!
> > >Women
> > >must hide their humanity! Women must starve if they cannot find some 
>man
>to
> > >support and feed them--they must not allowed to work! These things are
>far
> > >more insane and are indemic to the problem of their male-war-madness.
> > >Frances
> > >
> > >
> > >On Sun, 30 Sep 2001 11:32:08 -0700, Jon Ford wrote:
> > >
> > > >  Normal, sane reasoning would be on Mike's side here--but life is
> > >neither
> > > >  normal nor sane in the Middle East. Take an angry Arab, Afghani,
> > > >  Palestinian,or Pakestani kid, maybe living in a relocation camp, 
>very
> > >pious
> > > >  Muslim, with zero chances of ever making it to America (no rich
>cousin
> > >in
> > >
> > > >  California) or even affording cologne or a nice tight suit and good
> > >shoes,
> > > >  and offer him several years of education in Germany and flight 
>school
> > >in
> > > >  Florida, nice expense account, etc., in return for dying for Allah 
>at
>a
> > > >  certain point, and I believe there would be quite a few takers!
>What's
> > >the
> > > >  alternative? 20 years  of unemployment in a relocation camp? 
>Picking
> > >through
> > > >  garbage?
> > > >
> > > >  JOn
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  >From: Michael Eisenstadt <michaele@ando.pair.com>
> > > >  >To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
> > > >  >Subject: Re: [Austin-ghetto-list] Somber Reading
> > > >  >Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 09:53:25 -0500
> > > >  >
> > > >  >yeah the eau de cologne and the clean tight clothes.
> > > >  >there will always be a irreducible number of wackos
> > > >  >but it is a small number. remember, the Arab is just
> > > >  >like everybody else, the call of Disney land and
> > > >  >living in Southern California where many Arabs
> > > >  >have a cousin is for sure going to be more
> > > >  >appealing than this
> > > >  >
> > > >
> > > >
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