[R129 SL] RE: R129LIST Digest, Vol 21, Issue 1 refrigerant
jan kuylaars
kuylaars at hotmail.com
Mon Sep 11 19:29:16 EDT 2006
I had the same on my car:
The reason was that the switch S32 located on the receiver-drier was defect.
There are two switches on the drier; one with a big screw what operate under
2 bar. If the system pressure is lower then 2 bar it switches to mass W9 and
the system is shut down to protect the compressor. The other switch ( R12 =
green R 134 = Yellow ) is small and located on the outlet side of the
drier. This switch is made that when the pressure on the system becomes
higher then 20 bar it switches the W9 mass and let the electric fans runs on
full power to cool the heated gas what is coming off the evaporator inside
and must be cooled by the radiator in front. If that system or switch is not
working the system becomes overheated when the car is not driving and the
pressure become above 20 bar. Then the expansion valve will loose
refrigerant to let drop the pressure to save the system. When that is
happening several times, the refrigerant level will drop to low and the
system will work but with very small capacity. Filling the system will let
it operate for some time till there is again to less level.
Replacement off the switch solves the problem.
Off course you can get the same problem if both or one electrical fan is
defect, or the resistor R15 (what is put in series from )the relai K10 or
K9-1 , wich are activated by the switch S32.
Then be sure to not overfill !!!! Overfill can permanently damaged your
compressor. I had the same with my Mazda 929 when I refill the system. I
could not read the maximum pressure and looked only that there were no
bubble's in the drier. There was no expansion valve! So the compressor
proberly had received fluid R12 instead of gas and heated up so much that at
the end the complete compressor system with magnet clutch burned out. And I
put the complet system into the car myself some 10 years ago. But after this
a learned my lesson and I let the OFFICIAL mercedes benz mechanicshop filled
my 500 SL. It costs with leakage test and the conclusion of a defect S32
109.00 euro. say 140 $.
I know for sure that you cannot buy and replace a compressor for that money.
I do the most of maintenance on my 500 SL myself, I have the DVD with all
the information the dealer has, but i pay for the airco filling !!!!!!!
So If someone can help me to find a compressor for R12 for the Mazda 929 2.0
I coupe 1986 i be happy. Otherwise it will be next year project. Defect is
defect and i connot make it worse, then i go to try to dissamble the
compressor and replace the bearings and rubers etc.
Greetings from the FLYING DUTCHMEN 500SL in a warm Holland ....with airco.
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> 1. Re: Low Refrigerant Problem (George Jenner)
> 2. overheating (asim razvi)
> 3. RE: R129LIST Digest, Vol 20, Issue 3 (jan kuylaars)
> 4. Re: overheating (Phil Carbone)
> 5. Re: overheating (gregorio at weststargroup.net)
> 6. AMG Package (Phil Carbone)
> 7. Re: AMG Package (George Jenner)
> 8. Re: AMG Package (Phil Carbone)
> 9. RE: AMG Package (Tracy W. Walkup)
> 10. Re: AMG Package (Phil Carbone)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 10:16:35 -0400
>From: "George Jenner" <gjenner at nc.rr.com>
>Subject: Re: [R129 SL] Low Refrigerant Problem
>To: "SL Mailing List" <r129list at mbcoupes.com>
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>Thanks Baktash for the quick response - I'm on my way.
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Baktash Taghehchian" <baktasht at yahoo.com>
>To: "SL Mailing List" <r129list at mbcoupes.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 10:09 AM
>Subject: Re: [R129 SL] Low Refrigerant Problem
>
>
> > George,
> > It is a standard R134a fitting. If you go to your
> > local auto parts store you can buy cans of R134a and
> > also the fittings/hoses. Make sure you get something
> > with a screw type valve that you can open/close. The
> > ones with the trigger tend to leak and are a hassle to
> > use. Also, get something that comes with a pressure
> > guage so that you know how much refrigerant you have
> > in the system, since overfilling will cause problems.
> >
> > Baktash
> >
> >
> > --- George Jenner <gjenner at nc.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> >> My 1996 SL500 runs low on refrigerant about once
> >> every year. Last year I took it into a local auto
> >> air conditioning shop and it cost me over $150 and
> >> they could not find a leak because it was so small.
> >> Thirty years ago I would add a can of R12 whenever I
> >> had a problem like this and be good to go. I looked
> >> at the refrigerant inlet fitting on the Benz and it
> >> looks larger than I am used to seeing. I would like
> >> to put a can of refrigerant in myself and am
> >> wondering if anyone reading this has done it on the
> >> 129 cars. What do I need for connection between the
> >> HFC R134a can and the inlet fitting?
> >>
> >> Happy Motoring - George> The MB Coupes Website!
> >> R129 SL Mailing List
> >
> > The MB Coupes Website!
> > R129 SL Mailing List
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>Message: 2
>Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 11:09:00 -0700 (PDT)
>From: asim razvi <asimrazvi at yahoo.com>
>Subject: [R129 SL] overheating
>To: r129list at mbcoupes.com
>Message-ID: <20060830180900.47239.qmail at web82105.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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>Anyone have issues with overheating? My 94 SL320 runs fine most of the
>time but in heavy traffic I see the temp needle move north, to the point I
>have to turn the heating on to get it to go lower, seems to do it sometimes
>on hills as well. I checked the secondary fan and its good but didnt know
>if its something more obvious.
>
>asim
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 3
>Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 23:38:51 +0200
>From: "jan kuylaars" <kuylaars at hotmail.com>
>Subject: [R129 SL] RE: R129LIST Digest, Vol 20, Issue 3
>To: r129list at mbcoupes.com
>Message-ID: <BAY124-F212EBF09AAB23B3A1AFDADC53E0 at phx.gbl>
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>Anil , i send you the bitmaps about the headlite switch S1 and connector
>with wirecode to your private e-mail. But this is standing on the DVD i
>send
>you; look at the DVD driveletter:\classic\etm\webetm\129\start.html.
>
>May be ther is a difference in buildingyear, so you must look that yourself
>if it is not the exact connector.
>greetings from the Flying Dutchmen SL500.
>
>
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> >Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 10:09:32 -0400 (EDT)
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> >
> > 1. Re: Headlamp switch wiring diagram NEEDED. (Phil Carbone)
> > 2. softop wont release (asim razvi)
> > 3. Re: softop wont release (Anil M Seunath)
> > 4. Re: softop wont release (Paul Samarin)
> > 5. unknown (mwillnow at lightspeed.net)
> > 6. Re: R129LIST Digest, Vol 20, Issue 2 (Bob Terry)
> > 7. Low Refrigerant Problem (George Jenner)
> > 8. Re: Low Refrigerant Problem (Baktash Taghehchian)
> >
> >
> >----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >Message: 1
> >Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 09:02:19 -0500
> >From: "Phil Carbone" <philcarbone55 at comcast.net>
> >Subject: Re: [R129 SL] Headlamp switch wiring diagram NEEDED.
> >To: "SL Mailing List" <r129list at mbcoupes.com>
> >Message-ID: <00a301c6caaa$983ea050$218c0e18 at userbed8ce6610>
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> >
> >Try Autohaus AZ at 800 240-4620.
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Anil M Seunath" <amseunath at atlanticlng.com>
> >To: "SL Mailing List" <r129list at mbcoupes.com>
> >Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 7:47 AM
> >Subject: [R129 SL] Headlamp switch wiring diagram NEEDED.
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Folks-
> > >
> > > I was in the process of changing the headlamp switch on a 230E and the
> > > wires got mixed up when i pulled out the old switch.
> > >
> > > Now, the switch is the same on the SL280, so I'm checking you all to
>see
> > > if
> > > i can get it from this forum.
> > >
> > > Let me know.. thanks..
> > >
> > > 1992 230E
> > > 1995 SL280
> > >
> > > The MB Coupes Website!
> > > R129 SL Mailing List
> >
> >
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> >Message: 2
> >Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 10:21:15 -0700 (PDT)
> >From: asim razvi <asimrazvi at yahoo.com>
> >Subject: [R129 SL] softop wont release
> >To: r129list at mbcoupes.com
> >Message-ID: <20060828172115.46389.qmail at web82106.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> >I had my window motors both replaced after they torqued around and broke,
> >works great now but now when I try to drop the top it wont release at the
> >windshield. I held the buttons down for five seconds to reset the
>windows
> >etc and then up (just in case) but no luck, disconnected and connected
>the
> >battery but still no luck. Any advice on how to get this top down, its
>75
> >degrees in California and my head is turning white.
> >
> >thanks
> >
> >Asim Razvi
> >
> >94 SL320 90k Red
> >various other cars not worth mentioning
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Message: 3
> >Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 13:25:56 -0400
> >From: Anil M Seunath <amseunath at atlanticlng.com>
> >Subject: Re: [R129 SL] softop wont release
> >To: asim razvi <asimrazvi at yahoo.com>, SL Mailing List
> > <r129list at mbcoupes.com>
> >Message-ID:
> > <OF0EDD1BDD.A83FAF7F-ON042571D8.005FAE3A-042571D8.005FC17F at atlanticlng.com>
> >
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >see if the hydraulic fluid is ok. Located in boot under spare tire..
>under
> >the sombero (3 screws)
> >use only MB fluid.
> >
> >
> >
> > asim razvi
> > <asimrazvi at yahoo.
> > com>
>To
> > Sent by: r129list at mbcoupes.com
> > r129list-bounces@
>cc
> > mbcoupes.com
> >
>Subject
> > [R129 SL] softop wont release
> > 08/28/2006 01:21
> > PM
> >
> >
> > Please respond to
> > asim razvi
> > <asimrazvi at yahoo.
> > com>; Please
> > respond to
> > SL Mailing List
> > <r129list at mbcoupe
> > s.com>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >I had my window motors both replaced after they torqued around and broke,
> >works great now but now when I try to drop the top it wont release at the
> >windshield. I held the buttons down for five seconds to reset the
>windows
> >etc and then up (just in case) but no luck, disconnected and connected
>the
> >battery but still no luck. Any advice on how to get this top down, its
>75
> >degrees in California and my head is turning white.
> >
> >thanks
> >
> >Asim Razvi
> >
> >94 SL320 90k Red
> >various other cars not worth mentioning
> >
> >
> >The MB Coupes Website!
> >R129 SL Mailing List
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Message: 4
> >Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 12:04:04 -0700
> >From: Paul Samarin <pauls at sbcglobal.net>
> >Subject: Re: [R129 SL] softop wont release
> >To: asim razvi <asimrazvi at yahoo.com>, SL Mailing List
> > <r129list at mbcoupes.com>
> >Message-ID: <717e4b78c58ae83e084f33ceb0e99104 at sbcglobal.net>
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
> >
> >Do you know how to do it manually? On my 90, it's in the index or
> >appendix in the back of the owner's manual. Follow the instructions to
> >the letter, and see if it works after that.
> >
> >Mine wasn't working at all--after years of non-use by the prior owner,
> >apparently--so, I had to help it manually through all the ups and
> >downs, and after a couple of complete run-throughs, it works fine now.
> >
> >Paul
> >
> >On Aug 28, 2006, at 10:21 AM, asim razvi wrote:
> >
> > > I had my window motors both replaced after they torqued around and
> > > broke, works great now but now when I try to drop the top it wont
> > > release at the windshield. I held the buttons down for five seconds
> > > to reset the windows etc and then up (just in case) but no luck,
> > > disconnected and connected the battery but still no luck. Any advice
> > > on how to get this top down, its 75 degrees in California and my head
> > > is turning white.
> > >
> > > thanks
> > >
> > > Asim Razvi
> > >
> > > 94 SL320 90k Red
> > > various other cars not worth mentioning
> > >
> > >
> > > The MB Coupes Website!
> > > R129 SL Mailing List
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Message: 5
> >Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 18:55:41 +0200
> >From: mwillnow at lightspeed.net
> >Subject: [R129 SL] unknown
> >To: r129list at mbcoupes.com
> >Message-ID: <20060829165530.5E47112039B at mailwash11.pair.com>
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> >here, the introduction
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> >
> >Message: 6
> >Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 18:38:29 -0400
> >From: "Bob Terry" <bobterry99 at hotmail.com>
> >Subject: [R129 SL] Re: R129LIST Digest, Vol 20, Issue 2
> >To: <r129list at mbcoupes.com>
> >Message-ID: <BAY111-DAV117122EC73B7FF8BC44500C83E0 at phx.gbl>
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> >
> >Here is a link to the simple procedure for replacing the leaking
>cylinder.
> >I don't suggest using loctite per the author's instructions. You can buy
>a
> >new replacement cylinder for about $150, or contact this guy who repairs
> >any cylinder for $30:
> >
> >Mr. Dennis Ficken
> >16285 S. Chester
> >Olathe, KS 66062
> >email: mainshipmed at sbcglobal.net
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: r129list-request at mbcoupes.com
> > To: r129list at mbcoupes.com
> > Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 8:47 AM
> > Subject: R129LIST Digest, Vol 20, Issue 2
> >
> >
> > Message: 9
> > Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 16:08:05 -0700
> > From: "Ralph Foster" <ralph.foster at cox.net>
> > Subject: [R129 SL] New problem
> > To: <r129list at mbcoupes.com>
> > Message-ID: <000001c6c576$a92b2e30$7b7ba8c0 at Ralphf01>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > When I lower my soft top I have a new problem where hydraulic fluid is
> > leaking on the passenger side top where the sun visor connects to the
> >car. I
> > am assuming the latch on top uses hydraulic fluid to open and close.
>Has
> > anyone had this problem and what is the fix?
> >
> > Ralph Foster
> > ralph.foster at cox.net
> >
> >
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> >Message: 7
> >Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 10:05:28 -0400
> >From: "George Jenner" <gjenner at nc.rr.com>
> >Subject: [R129 SL] Low Refrigerant Problem
> >To: "SL Mailing List" <r129list at mbcoupes.com>
> >Message-ID: <001a01c6cc3d$598e30c0$7499bf41 at mycomputer1>
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> >
> >My 1996 SL500 runs low on refrigerant about once every year. Last year I
> >took it into a local auto air conditioning shop and it cost me over $150
> >and they could not find a leak because it was so small. Thirty years ago
>I
> >would add a can of R12 whenever I had a problem like this and be good to
> >go. I looked at the refrigerant inlet fitting on the Benz and it looks
> >larger than I am used to seeing. I would like to put a can of
>refrigerant
> >in myself and am wondering if anyone reading this has done it on the 129
> >cars. What do I need for connection between the HFC R134a can and the
> >inlet fitting?
> >
> >Happy Motoring - George
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> >Message: 8
> >Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 07:09:28 -0700 (PDT)
> >From: Baktash Taghehchian <baktasht at yahoo.com>
> >Subject: Re: [R129 SL] Low Refrigerant Problem
> >To: SL Mailing List <r129list at mbcoupes.com>
> >Message-ID: <20060830140928.35786.qmail at web51508.mail.yahoo.com>
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> >
> >George,
> >It is a standard R134a fitting. If you go to your
> >local auto parts store you can buy cans of R134a and
> >also the fittings/hoses. Make sure you get something
> >with a screw type valve that you can open/close. The
> >ones with the trigger tend to leak and are a hassle to
> >use. Also, get something that comes with a pressure
> >guage so that you know how much refrigerant you have
> >in the system, since overfilling will cause problems.
> >
> >Baktash
> >
> >
> >--- George Jenner <gjenner at nc.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> > > My 1996 SL500 runs low on refrigerant about once
> > > every year. Last year I took it into a local auto
> > > air conditioning shop and it cost me over $150 and
> > > they could not find a leak because it was so small.
> > > Thirty years ago I would add a can of R12 whenever I
> > > had a problem like this and be good to go. I looked
> > > at the refrigerant inlet fitting on the Benz and it
> > > looks larger than I am used to seeing. I would like
> > > to put a can of refrigerant in myself and am
> > > wondering if anyone reading this has done it on the
> > > 129 cars. What do I need for connection between the
> > > HFC R134a can and the inlet fitting?
> > >
> > > Happy Motoring - George> The MB Coupes Website!
> > > R129 SL Mailing List
> >
> >
> >
> >End of R129LIST Digest, Vol 20, Issue 3
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>Message: 4
>Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 16:49:28 -0500
>From: "Phil Carbone" <philcarbone55 at comcast.net>
>Subject: Re: [R129 SL] overheating
>To: "asim razvi" <asimrazvi at yahoo.com>, "SL Mailing List"
> <r129list at mbcoupes.com>
>Message-ID: <005a01c6cc7e$2d439ff0$218c0e18 at userbed8ce6610>
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>
>My 1992 500SL does the same thing. There is a service bulletin that states
>these cars run hot.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "asim razvi" <asimrazvi at yahoo.com>
>To: <r129list at mbcoupes.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 1:09 PM
>Subject: [R129 SL] overheating
>
>
> > Anyone have issues with overheating? My 94 SL320 runs fine most of the
> > time but in heavy traffic I see the temp needle move north, to the point
>I
> > have to turn the heating on to get it to go lower, seems to do it
> > sometimes on hills as well. I checked the secondary fan and its good
>but
> > didnt know if its something more obvious.
> >
> > asim
> > The MB Coupes Website!
> > R129 SL Mailing List
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 5
>Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 15:04:52 -0700
>From: <gregorio at weststargroup.net>
>Subject: Re: [R129 SL] overheating
>To: "SL Mailing List" <r129list at mbcoupes.com>
>Message-ID: <000a01c6cc80$51f02290$0a00a8c0 at GROUCHO>
>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=response
>
>My 1991 500 SL does the same thing but only on very hot days, and only if
>I'm sitting in stop & go traffic for long periods of time. Never had an
>"over" heating problem, but still get a little nervous when it gets close
>to
>the red! On the flipside, I had a 400E that never got hot - even when I
>ran
>it thru the 110 degree desert at 90 MPH for 5 hours on a trip from Arizona
>to California! Wonderful car!
>
>Cheers,
>
>Greg
>1991 500SL
>2001 ML 320
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Phil Carbone" <philcarbone55 at comcast.net>
>To: "asim razvi" <asimrazvi at yahoo.com>; "SL Mailing List"
><r129list at mbcoupes.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 2:49 PM
>Subject: Re: [R129 SL] overheating
>
>
> > My 1992 500SL does the same thing. There is a service bulletin that
>states
> > these cars run hot.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "asim razvi" <asimrazvi at yahoo.com>
> > To: <r129list at mbcoupes.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 1:09 PM
> > Subject: [R129 SL] overheating
> >
> >
> >> Anyone have issues with overheating? My 94 SL320 runs fine most of the
> >> time but in heavy traffic I see the temp needle move north, to the
>point
> >> I have to turn the heating on to get it to go lower, seems to do it
> >> sometimes on hills as well. I checked the secondary fan and its good
>but
> >> didnt know if its something more obvious.
> >>
> >> asim
> >> The MB Coupes Website!
> >> R129 SL Mailing List
> >
> > The MB Coupes Website!
> > R129 SL Mailing List
> >
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 6
>Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 09:35:18 -0500
>From: "Phil Carbone" <philcarbone55 at comcast.net>
>Subject: [R129 SL] AMG Package
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>Does anybody own an SL600 with the AMG package and is it worth the extra
>money? What is included?
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>Message: 7
>Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 13:50:27 -0400
>From: "George Jenner" <gjenner at nc.rr.com>
>Subject: Re: [R129 SL] AMG Package
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>Phil, from what I have seen and read on the subject the AMG package was
>offered as an option on the 129 series cars. This included both the SL500
>and the SL600. The package was a dress up add on and included Xenon
>headlights (headlamp wiper delete), 18" staggered width wheels with z rated
>low profile tires, a front body trim and grille change, side (under the
>doors) body trim with a aerodynamic shape and a rear body trim (under the
>trunk) panel change. That is the entire package. The wheels and tires
>alone gave the entire car a more aggressive look and wider stance which I
>like. I have recently added the AMG wheels, and I fitted these with Riken
>Raptor (Michelin) tires to my 1996 SL500. Very happy so far.
>
>Happy Motoring - George
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> From: Phil Carbone
> To: SL Mailing List
> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 10:35 AM
> Subject: [R129 SL] AMG Package
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> Does anybody own an SL600 with the AMG package and is it worth the extra
>money? What is included?
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>Message: 8
>Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 14:07:51 -0500
>From: "Phil Carbone" <philcarbone55 at comcast.net>
>Subject: Re: [R129 SL] AMG Package
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>Thanks for your help. Are the Riken Raptors better than the Pilots?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: George Jenner
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> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 12:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [R129 SL] AMG Package
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>
> Phil, from what I have seen and read on the subject the AMG package was
>offered as an option on the 129 series cars. This included both the SL500
>and the SL600. The package was a dress up add on and included Xenon
>headlights (headlamp wiper delete), 18" staggered width wheels with z rated
>low profile tires, a front body trim and grille change, side (under the
>doors) body trim with a aerodynamic shape and a rear body trim (under the
>trunk) panel change. That is the entire package. The wheels and tires
>alone gave the entire car a more aggressive look and wider stance which I
>like. I have recently added the AMG wheels, and I fitted these with Riken
>Raptor (Michelin) tires to my 1996 SL500. Very happy so far.
>
> Happy Motoring - George
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Phil Carbone
> To: SL Mailing List
> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 10:35 AM
> Subject: [R129 SL] AMG Package
>
>
> Does anybody own an SL600 with the AMG package and is it worth the
>extra money? What is included?
>
>
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>Message: 9
>Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 15:27:55 -0400
>From: "Tracy W. Walkup" <twwalkup at hotmail.com>
>Subject: RE: [R129 SL] AMG Package
>To: "'SL Mailing List'" <r129list at mbcoupes.com>
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>Phil,
>
>AMG made a few of the 129 cars as SL60 AMG models. I just missed buying
>one
>a couple of months ago.
>
>Engine mods, suspension, aero kit. A true AMG treatment.
>
>Google SL60 and you will find some history.
>
>Tracy
>
>
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>From: r129list-bounces at mbcoupes.com [mailto:r129list-bounces at mbcoupes.com]
>On Behalf Of Phil Carbone
>Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 3:08 PM
>To: SL Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [R129 SL] AMG Package
>
>
>Thanks for your help. Are the Riken Raptors better than the Pilots?
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: George Jenner <mailto:gjenner at nc.rr.com>
>To: SL Mailing List <mailto:r129list at mbcoupes.com>
>Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 12:50 PM
>Subject: Re: [R129 SL] AMG Package
>
>Phil, from what I have seen and read on the subject the AMG package was
>offered as an option on the 129 series cars. This included both the SL500
>and the SL600. The package was a dress up add on and included Xenon
>headlights (headlamp wiper delete), 18" staggered width wheels with z rated
>low profile tires, a front body trim and grille change, side (under the
>doors) body trim with a aerodynamic shape and a rear body trim (under the
>trunk) panel change. That is the entire package. The wheels and tires
>alone gave the entire car a more aggressive look and wider stance which I
>like. I have recently added the AMG wheels, and I fitted these with Riken
>Raptor (Michelin) tires to my 1996 SL500. Very happy so far.
>
>Happy Motoring - George
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Phil Carbone <mailto:philcarbone55 at comcast.net>
>To: SL Mailing List <mailto:r129list at mbcoupes.com>
>Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 10:35 AM
>Subject: [R129 SL] AMG Package
>
>Does anybody own an SL600 with the AMG package and is it worth the extra
>money? What is included?
>
>
>
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>Message: 10
>Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 14:32:36 -0500
>From: "Phil Carbone" <philcarbone55 at comcast.net>
>Subject: Re: [R129 SL] AMG Package
>To: "SL Mailing List" <r129list at mbcoupes.com>
>Message-ID: <00f901c6d5d9$0ab12980$218c0e18 at userbed8ce6610>
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>Thanks.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tracy W. Walkup
> To: 'SL Mailing List'
> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 2:27 PM
> Subject: RE: [R129 SL] AMG Package
>
>
> Phil,
>
> AMG made a few of the 129 cars as SL60 AMG models. I just missed buying
>one a couple of months ago.
>
> Engine mods, suspension, aero kit. A true AMG treatment.
>
> Google SL60 and you will find some history.
>
> Tracy
>
>
>
>
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> From: r129list-bounces at mbcoupes.com
>[mailto:r129list-bounces at mbcoupes.com] On Behalf Of Phil Carbone
> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 3:08 PM
> To: SL Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [R129 SL] AMG Package
>
>
> Thanks for your help. Are the Riken Raptors better than the Pilots?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: George Jenner
> To: SL Mailing List
> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 12:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [R129 SL] AMG Package
>
>
> Phil, from what I have seen and read on the subject the AMG package
>was offered as an option on the 129 series cars. This included both the
>SL500 and the SL600. The package was a dress up add on and included Xenon
>headlights (headlamp wiper delete), 18" staggered width wheels with z rated
>low profile tires, a front body trim and grille change, side (under the
>doors) body trim with a aerodynamic shape and a rear body trim (under the
>trunk) panel change. That is the entire package. The wheels and tires
>alone gave the entire car a more aggressive look and wider stance which I
>like. I have recently added the AMG wheels, and I fitted these with Riken
>Raptor (Michelin) tires to my 1996 SL500. Very happy so far.
>
> Happy Motoring - George
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Phil Carbone
> To: SL Mailing List
> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 10:35 AM
> Subject: [R129 SL] AMG Package
>
>
> Does anybody own an SL600 with the AMG package and is it worth the
>extra money? What is included?
>
>
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