[R129 SL] soft top not raising

[Paul Samarin]

It seems that there is a click just as the switch moves a tiny bit (say  
within the first half inch downward) and then there's another click at  
the last tiny bit (say within the last half inch downward).  The first  
one is being triggered but not the second one (unless the cover pushes  
it the rest of the way when it closes and locks.)

I did get the order of things right, b/c it's pretty clearly set forth  
in the manual.  Front left one click, then right two clicks, then one  
more click on the driver's side, then go to the back for one click  
left, two right, one more left, etc.  The locks are not grabbing the  
top's bracket.

It may be that I have to cycle the whole thing through--whether  
manually or however--to trip all the appropriate switches in the proper  
order.

No more time to play with it today.  Tomorrow may bring more info!

Still hopeful,

Paul

On Jun 7, 2006, at 9:52 AM, Anil M Seunath wrote:

> Once the top makes contact with the switch and there is a click ...  
> then
> you're in business.. Its an on-off switch. Without it.. the sequence  
> will
> not complete. I'm sure its needed when opening the top.. Maybe it  
> plays a
> part in closing too..
>
> Note : the front locks to the windshield first, followed by the back  
> cover
> and the back glass lock down..
>
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> Not sure I'm making progress, but I'm taking baby steps at least.  I
> think I may have more than one problem with the thing.
>
> I have located the switch I think you're referring to.  It is white
> plastic with a blue plastic piece.  The soft top pushes it down when
> the top closes.  However, mine is not traveling the full distance down.
>   When I push it further with my finger, I can hear a tiny click,
> leading me to believe that there is a contact point not being
> triggered.  No amount of pressure on the soft top with make it move
> that switch any further; it feels as if the soft top has gone as far as
> it can go and the switch has another half inch to go.  It may be that
> when the hard cover locks down the switch goes the further distance, I
> don't know.
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> Also, however, the locks which hold down *either* top in the rear are
> not grabbing and holding the hooks on either side.  So, I cannot
> manually lock the soft top down.  I now remember that locking down the
> hard top was also problematic the two or three times I've done it.
> What could make the locks not catch?  The locking tool works fine and
> the front locks down fine, but the locks are just not grabbing hold in
> the back.
>
> Thanks for walking me through this...
>
> Paul
> '90 500 SL
>
> On Jun 6, 2006, at 11:32 AM, mooncusser wrote:
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>> Don't need the switch. Just have to give a tug on the top to line it
>> up with the switch as it goes down.
>> On Tue, 06 Jun 2006 14:14:52 -0400, you wrote:
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>>> On my 92 300sl  there is a switch that the top frame comes in contact
>>> with behind the drivers seat and if it does not connect going down it
>>> will not go up. Look just inside the left or right side and see if  
>>> the
>>> top is resting on the switch (mine is blue) like it should to  
>>> operate.
>>> Just a suggestion from someone who has been there at one time.
>>> Later...
>>>
>>> On Tue, 06 Jun 2006 09:22:40 -0700, you wrote:
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>>>> '90 500 SL:
>>>>
>>>> So far, good news and bad news (maybe.)  Good news is it's not the
>>>> switch.  That's good b/c at least I don't have to tear the console
>>>> apart to install the switch only to discover it's not the fix.  The
>>>> bad
>>>> news is that the switch was pretty darn cheap, and the actual fix  
>>>> may
>>>> not be!
>>>>
>>>> So far, with the parking brake engaged and the key in Position Two
>>>> (whether engine idling or off), the windows automatically roll down
>>>> all
>>>> the way and the soft top cover pops open to what looks like 90
>>>> degrees,
>>>> which looks like full open.  The top doesn't move, though.
>>>>
>>>> It doesn't seem to be obstructed b/c two people can easily pull it
>>>> out
>>>> fully.  (I am not able to pull it out fully by myself as it's too
>>>> heavy
>>>> and the leverage is insufficient from just one side.)
>>>>
>>>> I haven't replaced any fuses or switches, but it now doesn't seem
>>>> electrical in nature.  Should I try that anyway?  There are fuses in
>>>> the trunk; they all look good, but are they the most likely  
>>>> suspects?
>>>>
>>>> Are there any "lift assistors" (e.g., springs, shocks) that are DIY
>>>> replaceable/adjustable?  I am aware from the p.o. that the top has
>>>> not
>>>> been raised for years.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for all suggestions.
>>>>
>>>> Paul
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