[R129 SL] RE: R129LIST Digest, ANIL SWITCHES FOR SOFT TOP.
Jan Kuylaars
jan at rian-bv.nl
Mon Aug 1 12:47:37 EDT 2005
Anil:
You can find the complete drawings and diagnostic on the DVD From MB
USA.
I got one from George Simpson in France. Thanks a lot George, it is a
complete technical booklet, with all what you should know. I can send
Anil an copy if he give me his address.
And then he can make a copy for the guy's in the USA.
But before you got the DVD: It all starts with the switches in the
doors, to know that the windows are down.
Then the cover from the soft-top lifts up, there are switches in the
trunk to detect the cover is open or closed.
After the cover reaching the end , the soft-top release at the
windshield, there are also two switches to detect that the soft-top is
open or closed. The soft-top go down in the storage compartment, in the
storage compartment are also on both side's 2 switches who detects if
the top is going down and is at the end. At the end the switch detects
and set the side windows back up again.
The control unit is behind the passengers seat under the smal seat or in
the box.
Closing the top it works in reverse, if you send me your e-mail address
I will send you pictures about the positions off the switches.
Jan Kuylaars Holland.
With the open SL 500 and the throttle pedal down " the Flying Dutchman "
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I have looked at the drawings this weekend, the fuses are in the trunk .
There is a fuse for each side. Then in the door there are the window
motor, the connector and a X earth point. Also an end switch at the
bottom and a switch if the door is open, so the window can be opened
without turning on the ignition key.
>From the door's the wire go though the soft top control unit, witch is
after the passenger chair under the cabinet or child seat. The wire from
the battery go to the fuse and from the fuse to the soft top control
unit.
Good luck
Jan kuylaars
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In addition on mine last mail:
If the window is crashed at the upper part, and is stocked between the
rubber, and/or the guide u profile inside the door, there is also a
possibility that the current from the motor come to high and the fuse
will blow. That is properly the reason if the window- switch will not
operate. But first you had to correct the alignment from the window and
then replace the fuse. First pick-up the stopper at the bottom off the
door compartment.
Let someone else operate the window switch , and help with your body
power to lower the window to the bottom. Then you can mount the stopper
at its original place, and should the problem be gone.
REMEMBER THAT SOMETIMES THE FUSE ARE BLOWN WITHOUT THAT YOU CAN SEE THAT
THE LEAD IS BURNED AWAY. So replace the fuse to be sure.
The window has only an fuse ; an switch, an (roof command) relay, and a
motor. The rest is wiring, so there can not be a very difficult
problem. The relay and switch are connected parallel.
Success.
Jan Kuylaars
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In the door there are two stoppers screwed to the inside plate to fix
the end of the window height. You can reach it after remove the cover.
If the nut of on stopper is come loose, and the stopper fall down in
the door compartment, the window
Will be turned a little bit at the end and come higher then normally. I
believe the window is now clamped between the rubbers and the door, and
will not be able to go down. If the window will not move , the bottom
switch will not operate and the roof will not work.
Jan Kuylaars , in the naburhood from the first twister in my lifetime in
Holland. Only damage some tree's and one house.
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this morning i put up both side windows - tried to close driver's side
door and window is stuck in the fully up position - hits the top and
trouble
closing door.
and the switch does nothing can't move it up or down - please help
regards, bill
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It's strange that the glass hits the top - why would the window go up
beyond it's usual 'end of travel'?
Try using the hard top/soft top Raise/Lower red switch. You only need to
push the red button backwards or forwards a little way and both windows
should start to lower. Once half way down, reverse what you are doing
with the red button and see if that changes anything.
If that doesn't work, maybe one of our resident electronics experts can
suggest a 'reset' solution (you have, of course, checked the fuses !!)
George Simpson
Cognac
william hughes wrote:
> this morning i put up both side windows - tried to close driver's side
> door and window is stuck in the fully up position - hits the top and
> trouble closing door. and the switch does nothing can't move it up or
> down - please help regards,
> bill
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thanks jan,
i looked in the main fuse box - none were blown
but i did not see which one controlled the windows - do you know?
thanks, bill
Jan Kuylaars wrote:
>In addition on mine last mail:
>
>If the window is crashed at the upper part, and is stocked between the
>rubber, and/or the guide u profile inside the door, there is also a
>possibility that the current from the motor come to high and the fuse
>will blow. That is properly the reason if the window- switch will not
>operate. But first you had to correct the alignment from the window and
>then replace the fuse.
>First pick-up the stopper at the bottom off the door compartment.
>Let someone else operate the window switch , and help with your body
>power to lower the window to the bottom.
>Then you can mount the stopper at its original place, and should the
>problem be gone.
>
>REMEMBER THAT SOMETIMES THE FUSE ARE BLOWN WITHOUT THAT YOU CAN SEE
>THAT THE LEAD IS BURNED AWAY. So replace the fuse to be sure.
>
>The window has only an fuse ; an switch, an (roof command) relay, and a
>motor. The rest is wiring, so there can not be a very difficult
>problem. The relay and switch are connected parallel.
>
>Success.
>
>Jan Kuylaars
>
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>In the door there are two stoppers screwed to the inside plate to fix
>the end of the window height. You can reach it after remove the cover.
>If the nut of on stopper is come loose, and the stopper fall down in
>the door compartment, the window
>Will be turned a little bit at the end and come higher then normally. I
>believe the window is now clamped between the rubbers and the door, and
>will not be able to go down. If the window will not move , the bottom
>switch will not operate and the roof will not work.
>
>
>Jan Kuylaars , in the naburhood from the first twister in my lifetime
>in Holland. Only damage some tree's and one house.
>
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>this morning i put up both side windows - tried to close driver's side
>door and window is stuck in the fully up position - hits the top and
>trouble closing door.
>and the switch does nothing can't move it up or down - please help
>regards, bill
>
>
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>Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 14:38:01 +0200
>From: George Simpson <george.simpson.r129 at tiscali.fr>
>Subject: Re: [R129 SL] WINDOW
>To: SL Mailing List <r129list at mbcoupes.com>
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>It's strange that the glass hits the top - why would the window go up
>beyond it's usual 'end of travel'?
>
>Try using the hard top/soft top Raise/Lower red switch. You only need
>to
>
>push the red button backwards or forwards a little way and both windows
>should start to lower. Once half way down, reverse what you are doing
>with the red button and see if that changes anything.
>
>If that doesn't work, maybe one of our resident electronics experts can
>suggest a 'reset' solution (you have, of course, checked the fuses !!)
>
>George Simpson
>Cognac
>
>william hughes wrote:
>
>
>
>>this morning i put up both side windows - tried to close driver's side
>>
>>
>
>
>
>>door and window is stuck in the fully up position - hits the top and
>>trouble closing door. and the switch does nothing can't move it up or
>>down - please help regards,
>>bill
>>The MB Coupes Website!
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>>
>>
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From: "Paytrak of Mississippi" <PaytrakofMS at jam.rr.com>
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I need some advise. I have 2 stud on the left rear wheel that snapped
off while I was trying to take the wheel off. These are the studs (not
lug nuts) the screw into the Hub. They have a lip made on then to I
assume seat the wheel on to the hub correctly. The studs broke off in
front of these lips so the wheel is still on the hub even after I take
the 3 other studs completely out. Does anyone have any advise as how I
can get these 2 studs out?
Thank You,
Franklin in Mississippi
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thanks jan,
i looked in the main fuse box - none were blown
but i did not see which one controlled the windows - do you know?
thanks,
bill
Jan Kuylaars wrote:
In addition on mine last mail:
If the window is crashed at the upper part, and is stocked between the
rubber, and/or the guide u profile inside the door, there is also a
possibility that the current from the motor come to high and the fuse
will blow. That is properly the reason if the window- switch will not
operate. But first you had to correct the alignment from the window and
then replace the fuse. First pick-up the stopper at the bottom off the
door compartment.
Let someone else operate the window switch , and help with your body
power to lower the window to the bottom. Then you can mount the stopper
at its original place, and should the problem be gone.
REMEMBER THAT SOMETIMES THE FUSE ARE BLOWN WITHOUT THAT YOU CAN SEE THAT
THE LEAD IS BURNED AWAY. So replace the fuse to be sure.
The window has only an fuse ; an switch, an (roof command) relay, and a
motor. The rest is wiring, so there can not be a very difficult
problem. The relay and switch are connected parallel.
Success.
Jan Kuylaars
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In the door there are two stoppers screwed to the inside plate to fix
the end of the window height. You can reach it after remove the cover.
If the nut of on stopper is come loose, and the stopper fall down in
the door compartment, the window
Will be turned a little bit at the end and come higher then normally. I
believe the window is now clamped between the rubbers and the door, and
will not be able to go down. If the window will not move , the bottom
switch will not operate and the roof will not work.
Jan Kuylaars , in the naburhood from the first twister in my lifetime in
Holland. Only damage some tree's and one house.
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this morning i put up both side windows - tried to close driver's side
door and window is stuck in the fully up position - hits the top and
trouble
closing door.
and the switch does nothing can't move it up or down - please help
regards, bill
------------------------------
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Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 14:38:01 +0200
From: George Simpson <george.simpson.r129 at tiscali.fr>
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It's strange that the glass hits the top - why would the window go up
beyond it's usual 'end of travel'?
Try using the hard top/soft top Raise/Lower red switch. You only need to
push the red button backwards or forwards a little way and both windows
should start to lower. Once half way down, reverse what you are doing
with the red button and see if that changes anything.
If that doesn't work, maybe one of our resident electronics experts can
suggest a 'reset' solution (you have, of course, checked the fuses !!)
George Simpson
Cognac
william hughes wrote:
this morning i put up both side windows - tried to close driver's side
door and window is stuck in the fully up position - hits the top and
trouble closing door. and the switch does nothing can't move it up or
down - please help regards, bill The MB Coupes Website! R129 SL Mailing
List
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Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 10:38:29 -0400
From: Anil M Seunath <amseunath at atlanticlng.com>
Subject: [R129 SL] 1995 SL230 - Wiring diagram for softtop ??
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Hello Folks -
Does anyone know were i can get a schematic diagram of the soft-top. I
need to go though a process of identifying all the microswitches and
limiters to determine which one is faulty.
thanks
Anil.
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