[LargeFormat] REALLY Large Format 30x40

Wed Mar 10 00:32:07 2004

Ditto from me. Now......Drum roll please.....There's another one.
In a varnished wood finish. I saw it at Bel Park Photo YEARS AGO!
I'd love to know who owns it. Had a B&L APLANET on it in BBL.
Bad bellows but nice wood and 2 holders. It was on a  three wheeled
carrage. Barney Copeland wanted 2000.00 for it in 1981. Anyone on
list have it?
Ken

---- Original Message ----
From: LNPhoto@twmi.rr.com
To: largeformat@f32.net
Subject: Re: [LargeFormat] REALLY Large Format  30x40
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 00:10:48 -0500

>I"m not sure which version you know.  I'll tell my version, you can 
>tell his.
>
>The camera sat in the lobby of the Gannett building (aka Photo 
>building) at Rochester Institute of Technology for many years
>including 
>the years I was there. I remember marveling at it and even asked a 
>couple of old timers about it, but nobody knew anything about it
>
>A couple years back I called master tinkerer PRof Andy Davidhazy
>about 
>a Bausch & Lomb microscope camera I had found and wondered if there
>was 
>a market up there for it.  He responded that not only was there no
>room 
>for it, but that he had a bigger white...er  black elephant that he 
>couldn't get rid of.... It seems the lobby was being refurbished and 
>this camera was no longer welcome.
>
>I told him under threat of life was he was not to allow this camera
>to 
>be destroyed.  If nothing else I would rescue it. As I hung up the 
>phone I had madcap visions of shooting little league groups with it
>by 
>putting this beast on some sort of scissor jack in the back of a van
>a 
>la Professor Fate's car. He couldn't think of what to do with it and
>I 
>have to admit I don't know why I didn't think to tell him to call the
>
>Eastman House.
>
>Luckily for me somebody did.
>
>
>Todd Gustavson curator of cameras at Geo Eastman House got a call, I 
>assume from PRof. Davidhazy, about this very large, very old camera 
>that had lost it's lease in the lobby and if somebody didn't take
>this 
>thing, it would lose its lease on life.  Todd  was torn between
>making 
>space and saving a piece of history (the camera is 24 x 36 INCHES in 
>format, made between 1897 and 1904 and had a Taylor Taylor Hobson 
>mammoth plate Rapid Portrait Lens on it from about 1870.)  Todd
>looked 
>into the records and found that a camera with a similar description
>had 
>once been in the collection. So he went and rescued the camera and 
>within a couple of hours found the extension rail that fit it AT the 
>Eastman house!
>
>It seems the camera collection was a very poor orphan division for
>many 
>years (Ken Hough will say it still is)  there was no room to keep 
>cameras at the house, so the previous curators would "loan" cameras
>out 
>for storage.  This camera had been a part of the Eastman collection 
>many years before, but poor records and bad memories nearly lost it 
>forever.
>
>And frankly its in a much better place there than here.  If I had 
>implemented my plan and rescued the camera, I would've had to
>convince 
>my wife that it really was small enough to fit in the house and that
>I 
>was too big to sleep in it outside. A tough sell on both counts.
>
>Les
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On Mar 9, 2004, at 10:07 PM, k4sb@niia.net wrote:
>
>> Hey Les! Ask Gustafson at George Eastman House about that "camera"
>> Neat story.
>> Ken
>>
>> ---- Original Message ----
>> From: LNPhoto@twmi.rr.com
>> To: largeformat@f32.net
>> Subject: Re: [LargeFormat] REALLY Large Format  30x40
>> Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 21:46:18 -0500
>>
>>> I corrected it once, but that post never made it to the list for
>some
>>>
>>> reason...
>>>
>>> the full url should be 
>http://home.twmi.rr.com/lnphoto/F&SBIG2.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 9, 2004, at 8:50 PM, Richard Knoppow wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "LNPhoto" <LNPhoto@twmi.rr.com>
>>>> To: <largeformat@f32.net>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 1:53 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [LargeFormat] REALLY Large Format 30x40
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> here's one a bit bigger, a Folmer & Schwing to boot
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.F&SBIG2.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>    This URL doesn't work, is it complete?
>>>>
>>>> F&S built large copy cameras and studio cameras, I think up
>>>> to 11x14 and maybe to 16x20 inches. They were owned by Kodak
>>>> for a time and continued to build cameras for Kodak after
>>>> they were divested. Kodak sold Century studio cameras up to
>>>> 11x14 although they are rare.
>>>>   Up to the early 1950's at least 11x14 was not unusual for
>>>> advertising illustration.
>>>> ---
>>>> Richard Knoppow
>>>> Los Angeles, CA, USA
>>>> dickburk@ix.netcom.com
>>>>
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