[LargeFormat] Intro & Teaching Camera Advice
Stuart Phillips
largeformat@f32.net
Thu Jun 19 10:54:34 2003
He can't use Ebay because he's making an institutional purchase and I think
needs a vendor number.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Les Newcomer" <LNPhoto@twmi.rr.com>
To: <largeformat@f32.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: [LargeFormat] Intro & Teaching Camera Advice
>
> On Thursday, June 19, 2003, at 01:30 AM, Jonathan Taylor wrote:
>
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I'm new to the list (tho I have been lurking for several weeks now),
> > and
> > figured it was finally time to introduce myself.
> >
> > I've been shooting 35mm now since 1997, starting with Tri-X, a good
> > deal of
> > darkroom experience, and an excellent teacher (http://www.JWillis.net/
> > ).
> >
> > For my day job I teach a class called Design & Illustration that draws
> > wacky, brilliant, and otherwise students from 10 local high schools.
> > We have
> > great students and a lot of fun (http://burlingtontech.org/ ).
> > Although my
> > professional background consists mostly of graphic design experience,
> > I get
> > to teach photography as well. One of the great side benefits of the
> > job is
> > that I we have very good resources for buying equipment. Among other
> > things
> > this has allowed me to put together a nice darkroom and a fleet of old
> > Minolta and Nikon manual SLRs to loan out.
> >
> > This year I've gotten authorization to finally buy a large-format
> > camera. I
> > have two motivations for doing so:
> >
> > 1) I think they provide a great vehicle for learning the underlying
> > principles of photography and cameras. (I remember my teacher's
> > demonstrations vividly.)
> >
> > 2) I started getting really serious about landscape photography using
> > infrared film, opaque filters, and a silly but fun Nikon shift lens
> > (http://sover.net/~jtyr/ ). It didn't take long working with this
> > outfit to
> > realize my vision would be much better served by a LF rig.
> >
> > So I have put together the following package from B&H and would greatly
> > appreciate any advice. LF is new and strange territory to me. What
> > little I
> > know is purely theoretical. My goal is to get a solid and usable
> > system for
> > the least money possible. I budgeted $1700 (not nearly enough)! The
> > practicalities of a public school purchase order precludes eBay and
> > even
> > vigulent cherry picking from the usual online used dealers.
> >
> > Here are the uses I'm anticipating for this rig:
> > 1) classroom demo- cheapest Polaroid film possible
> > 2) landscape- Polaroid Type 55 (lovely Polargoo!), HEI, Maco, & Tri-X
> > 3) architecture- same as landscape
> > 4) limited studio- 120 roll chromes
> >
> > 1 Toyo-View 4x5 45C Camera 799.00
> > 799.00
> > 1 Rodenstock 210mm f/6.8 Geronar Lens with Copal #1 Shutter 399.00
> > 399.00
> >>>> Both of these are USED items.<<<
> > 1 Toyo-View 158 x 158mm Lensboard for #1 Copal 54.95
> > 54.95
> > 1 Rodenstock Metal Lens Wrench (for View Lens Retaining Ring) 14.95
> > 14.95
> > 1 Toyo-View 4x5 Folding Focusing Hood/Groundglass Cover 110.00
> > 110.00
> >>>> Do I need this?<<<
> NO use a t-shirt
> > 1 Horseman Roll Film Holder 451 - 6x9cm Graflok Back 398.95
> > 398.95
> You don't need 6x9, 6x7 will work if you are desperate for roll film
> on an LF camera and the Calumet C2 and C2n roll backs are running $100
> or less on ebay.
> > 4 Fidelity 4x5 Sheet Film Holders (Twin Pack) 42.95
> > 171.80
> >>>> Not enough of these, right?<<<
> Need at least 6
> > 1 Polaroid Model #545i 4x5 Polaroid Sheet Film Holder 164.95
> > 164.95
> I know how schools need Purchase orders and the like, but these are
> selling on ebay for around $20-$50
> (actually it's the model 545 (no "i") which is identical but with more
> metal and less plastic.
>
> > 1 Toyo-View Focusing Cloth 36x48" (Black/White) 44.50
> > 44.50
> > 1 Wista 5x Standard Focusing Loupe 52.95
> > 52.95
> If you need to trim the budget, get an agfa plastic 8x loupe. These
> are good/great but other things can get the job done.
> > 1 Tenba CCV45 Car Case for View 45 - Black 185.95
> > 185.95
> >
> > 2,409.95
> >
> > These are "extras" that I really want but probably cannot afford.
> > 1 Nikon Wide 90mm f/8 Nikkor-SW Lens w/ Copal #0 Shutter 699.95
> > 699.95
>
> look around the used camera stores for a 90 Super Angulaon f8. They're
> selling on ebay for $250-$350
>
> > 1 Toyo-View 158 x 158mm Lensboard for #0 Copal 84.95
> > 84.95
> > 1 Toyo-View 4x5 Wide Angle Bellows 369.00
> > 369.00
> >>>>
>
>
> > 1 Horseman Roll Film Holder 612 - 6x12cm, Graflok Back 699.95
> > 699.95
>
> I always thought I wanted one of these, but you can shoot sheet film
> and crop it to 6x12 for a VERY LONG time before these pay for
> themselves.
> >
> > 1,871.80
> >
> > So there you have it. Please tell me what I've gotten wrong, how I can
> > save
> > money, and anything else I'm missing.
> >
> > jt
> >
> >
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