[Jacob-list] Jacob-list Digest, Vol 93, Issue 9

[tlund at eclipsebordercollies.com]

Thank you everyone for you information and help.  I really appreciate it:)

Happy lambing.

Tashia Lund
Eclipse Border Collies
955 Highway 81 NE
Cummings ND 58223-9552
www.eclipsebordercollies.com
701-330-3195




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> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 20:33:35 -0800

> From: Johann K <johanndiedrich at msn.com>

> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] food

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> The jacob's I've slaughtered for meat (in winter time) have appeared to

be quite trim.  However, they seemed to have what I would consider to be a
healthy fat reserve.  I'm not sure how to quantify the amount of fat, but
it was more than I would expect from their outward appearance.  Their
muscle structure simply doesn't cover all their bony parts, and for them to
carry enough fat to do the job they would have to be a bit obese.  That is
my observation.

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> Johann

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> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 07:57:08 -0500

> From: patchworkfibers at windstream.net

> To: lambfarm at tds.net

> CC: jacob-list at jacobsheep.com

> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] food

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> When Jacobs are referred to as "goat-like", it refers to dairy goats -

not meat goats. A dairy doe in peak condition is pretty angular looking
compared to a Boer goat.

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> Linda

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> On 1/22/2012 7:01 PM, Betty Berlenbach wrote:

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> I also think of jacobs as being different from standardized breeds of

sheep: they are ?swimmers? not ?football player?.  That is, they seem to
naturally want to be thin.  Their backbones, like shetlands, are different
from standardized breeds. My coopworths and jacobs are together, presumably
eat the same things, although the smaller jacobs push the coopworths out of
the way very often, so might actually get more grain.  Nevertheless, the
coopworths are large, their backbones are much smoother. The jacobs remain
thin...It?s kind of like my husband who can eat three helpings of food and
stay thin. I sit and smell the food and put on three pounds.  I don?t think
THIN is a bad word.  With jacobs and shetlands and other primitive breeds,
the instructions in the books about their backbones and what they should
feel like, just don?t work. I know one shetland breeder in Vermont, the
original shetland importer to the States, who, when she sells sheep,
suggests that on the way home, t

>  he new breeder take the sheep past the vet, and ask the vet to come out

and check the backbone and tell the vet, probably unfamiliar with these
type of sheep, that this is what a healthy shetland feels like and looks
like. I think jacobs are similar.  Which doesn?t mean they can?t be in poor
condition, but I think means that good condition might look different on
primitive breeds than on standardized breeds.  I would suggest that if you
are not sure, ask an experienced breeder in your vicinity to come over and
check them out for you.

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> That said, I NEVER feed alfalfa, because I think it?s too rich for

jacobs, though I know lots of breeders who successfully do, so I think it?s
just my personal quirk. I feed second cut hay. However, I do give bred ewes
about l/4 cup of organic whole grains every day after the second month of
gestation, and increase it to perhaps a third of a cup during the first
month of lactation. After that, I start reducing the amount, and from
weaning til breeding, they primarily get grass, though I have been known to
give them about a tablespoon each of organic whole grain a day so they know
who god is!  (That is, they will follow the bucket!)  During winter months,
when grass isn?t growing, I feed second cut hay.  (And that means,
mid-October through mid-May, most years!)

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