[Jacob-list] Jacob-list Digest, Vol 85, Issue 12

[jessica at spiritcraftwellness.com]

Hello All,

I have four dobermans, believe it or not, who love my Jacobs.  They view them as "their" sheep.  The sheep love them as well, but they were raised with a livestock guardian, so they are used to the energy of dogs, and my dogs have practically no prey drive, only a protective instinct.

I was speaking to another owner in the area who had a problem with some neighbors herding dogs when she first got her sheep BECAUSE they were raised with livestock guardian.  Her sheep didn't know to view dogs as a threat and run. She switched up to a combination of livestock guardian and scheduled time in and out.  So far i haven't heard any problems.

Good luck!!!

Jessica.



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> From: "Heather Hettick" <hettick.1 at osu.edu>

> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] Predator Control Question

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> In answer to:  Marjorie Schafer <MHSchafer at oglecom.com>

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> We use a llama since we have had dogs chasing and hurting

> sheep in the past.

> There are supposed to be coyotes in our area and we keep

> the lambs inside

> when they are small - February into March, but once the

> grass is growing

> they can stay outside if they like, and we have luckily not

> had coyotes

> visit, although I've seen foxes, who don't seem to bother

> the sheep at all.

> We keep our barn open so they can get in most of the time

> during good

> weather and we keep a fan going to keep them cool.

> 

> Our current llama gelding is very people friendly, almost

> too friendly.  He

> is only a so-so guard but his presence and curiosity is

> probably a

> deterrent.  He doesn't hang with the sheep all the

> time and does what he

> likes, but he's gentle with them and not a problem, so he

> stays.  He is lead

> trained and easy to care for which is also a big

> plus.  Our former llama was

> an excellent guard and stayed with the sheep and would

> physically round them

> up and get between them and a dog and was a danger to all

> dogs, including

> ours.  He chased away any kind of dogs, deer and geese

> from our pasture and

> tried to chase out the groundhogs too - they drove him

> crazy. We lost him to

> heat related pneumonia and that's part of why we keep a fan

> in our barn now.

> 

> I've heard dogs are better for more serious predators than

> we have, but are

> also good at getting out of fences and like to have a

> larger area to patrol.

> We have only 5 acres and are near a busy road and I'm

> afraid to have a dog

> guardian that could wander off or get hit by a car. 

> They also cost more to

> feed.

> 

> I've heard mixed results with donkeys.  I imagine that

> they are like llamas

> - some are good and some are bad.

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> Heather Hettick

> Moonstruck Farm

> Creston, OH

> www.moonstruckfarm.wordpress.com

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