[Jacob-list] Jacob-list Digest, Vol 56, Issue 39

[Joan Gross]

*"We all want to take good care of our sheep and should do so, but it is my
sincere hope that we will keep them the hardy, primitive breed they are
meant to be and not kill them with kindness."*
I like this quote Carl, so true!
Joan Gross
www.mudranchjacobs.com


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>   1. Re: bottle-fed lamb questions (ARTHUR PARTRIDGE)

>   2. Re: bottle-fed lamb questions (Thomas P. Carnes)

>   3. Interesting.. Jacob List and Google (gotothewhip at aol.com)

>   4. Re: OCD in Jacobs (Linda)

>   5. tanning hides (hobbyknobfarm)

>   6. Re: bottle-fed lamb questions (CARL FOSBRINK)

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> Message: 1

> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:46:14 -0700

> From: "ARTHUR PARTRIDGE" <aztreaz at earthlink.net>

> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] bottle-fed lamb questions

> To: "jacob-list" <jacob-list at jacobsheep.com>

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>  >Why did you leave the ewe and her lambs in a jug for two weeks? If

> > there was a problem, that is a reason, but that is the reason for your

> > problem with the lamb. If left separated from the flock for too long the

> > flock will not accept the ewe or her lambs back into the flock without

> > re-establishing the pecking order, which involves a lot of head butting.

> =========

> My friend raises Icelandics and she leaves the ewe and her lambs in the jug

> for two weeks.  She also supplements the triplets; especially the lambs not

> getting enough to eat.  She says it helps the bonding of the ewe and lambs

> and, as I recall, to prevent injuries to the lambs when they are newborns.

> She has no problems with the ewes and lambs returning to the flock after

> two weeks.   I only have one jug set up, for emergencies, so I am not able

> to do this.  I put the ewe and lambs in the jug for a few days after birth

> or put a gate up in the barn and keep them there for a few days.  No

> problems doing it this way either.

>

> Cathy

> Moscow, Idaho

>

>

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> Message: 2

> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 02:50:06 +0000

> From: "Thomas P. Carnes" <tcarnes at carnesely.com>

> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] bottle-fed lamb questions

> To: aztreaz at earthlink.net, "jacob-list" <jacob-list at jacobsheep.com>

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> We have no jug. Ewes just lamb in the pasture with the others. No problems

> of note.

> Thomas P. Carnes

> 713.921.7790 (Telephone)

> 713.921.7793 (Facsimile)

> tcarnes at carnesely.com

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> Sent from my Verizon Wireless

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> -----Original Message-----

> From: "ARTHUR PARTRIDGE" <aztreaz at earthlink.net>

>

> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:46:14

> To: jacob-list<jacob-list at jacobsheep.com>

> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] bottle-fed lamb questions

>

>

> --Previous Message--

>  >Why did you leave the ewe and her lambs in a jug for two weeks? If

> > there was a problem, that is a reason, but that is the reason for your

> > problem with the lamb. If left separated from the flock for too long the

> > flock will not accept the ewe or her lambs back into the flock without

> > re-establishing the pecking order, which involves a lot of head butting.

> =========

> My friend raises Icelandics and she leaves the ewe and her lambs in the jug

> for two weeks.  She also supplements the triplets; especially the lambs not

> getting enough to eat.  She says it helps the bonding of the ewe and lambs

> and, as I recall, to prevent injuries to the lambs when they are newborns.

> She has no problems with the ewes and lambs returning to the flock after

> two weeks.   I only have one jug set up, for emergencies, so I am not able

> to do this.  I put the ewe and lambs in the jug for a few days after birth

> or put a gate up in the barn and keep them there for a few days.  No

> problems doing it this way either.

>

> Cathy

> Moscow, Idaho

>

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> Message: 3

> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 23:54:36 -0400

> From: gotothewhip at aol.com

> Subject: [Jacob-list] Interesting.. Jacob List and Google

> To: jacob-list at jacobsheep.com

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> A gal I know just took in 2 bottle goats... She didnt talk to me before

> feeding them the first day... They are about 8 lbs each...... and she fed

> them 24 and 32 ounces over the last 24 hrs.... Needless to say, she has kids

> with scours!?

>

>

>

> I did a quick google search for a homemade electrlyte solution for her to

> use..... and a Jacob List post from Linda was the #1 choice!?

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>

> Thought that was pretty cool!

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>

>

> Jennfer Tucker

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> Moose Mtn Ranch

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> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 06:26:43 -0400

> From: Linda <patchworkfibers at alltel.net>

> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] OCD in Jacobs

> To: <schmick54 at aol.com>, <gotothewhip at aol.com>,

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> I didn't realize it could exhibit so early. Was I correct in that it does

> get progressively worse? and doesn't get better?

>

> Linda

>

>  I have seen it in lambs of about four months of age, but a breeder I know

> has seen it as early as a few days old.It usually occurs when the horn set

> starts to develop more and puts pressure on the brain stem.

>

>  Mick

>

>

>

>

>  -----Original Message-----

>  From: Linda <patchworkfibers at alltel.net>

>  To: gotothewhip at aol.com; jacob-list at jacobsheep.com

>  Sent: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 7:38 pm

>  Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] OCD in Jacobs

>

>

> Fred Horak is the one to talk to. I believe that OCD is progressive and

> doesn't usually show up so early, but I might be misremembering.

>

> Linda

>

> Can anyone direct me on how to find out more about OCD in multi horned

> sheep?  I have a 2 week old lamb, that has been having some problems.. He

> gets better everyday, but a very educated person and I spoke of OCD and its

> symptoms....This lamb has a few of them.  We are going to the vet on Monday

> as the vet suspects that he had a pinched nerve in utero or during the birth

> process.  HE dodnt walk until he was a week old, and now runs and plays, but

> has a wobble to him.  GO figure.. he is the the most stunning, perfectly

> market, incredible structured ram, with 4 wide spaced horns, a real stud

> prospect as he is outside bloodlines of my original flock... SIGH.....Vet

> may also opt for accupuncture as well.  We will get a Xray of the back, and

> possibly the skull.

>

>  Any input... Feel free to reply to me privatley if needed

>

>  Jennifer Tucker

>

>

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> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 09:47:08 -0400

> From: "hobbyknobfarm" <hobbyknobfarm at main.nc.us>

> Subject: [Jacob-list] tanning hides

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> Donna,

> I had to salt my hide right away. Took a few days of salting. Look at

> www.lonestarfurdressing.com for more info. But I let them do the rest.

> They were long but pretty reasonable.

> Elizabeth

> www.hobbyknobfarm.com

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> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 06:49:35 -0700 (PDT)

> From: CARL FOSBRINK <carlfosbrink at yahoo.com>

> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] bottle-fed lamb questions

> To: aztreaz at earthlink.net, jacob-list <jacob-list at jacobsheep.com>

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> Cathy,

> ?

> ??? Jacobs are a primitive?breed. Our ewes will go off by themselves in the

> pasture or go in the shelter by themselves and have their lambs. The rest of

> the flock leaves them alone as they seem to know what is happening. The

> mothers have good maternal instincts and don't have any problem bonding with

> their lambs or producing enough milk for triplets. That is how Jacobs should

> be. If they don't do these things they are culled here.

> ??? I have raised other breeds over the years, but would not go back to

> spending nights in the barn or doing other unnecessary work. We only check

> our Jacobs once or twice a day to see how they are doing during lambing

> season. Our breeding rams stay in with the flock all year round and do not

> bother the ewes or the lambs. We often see the lambs nuzzling the ram or

> jump on his back and he doesn't mind at all.

> ?? We have four different breeding groups this year. The head of our old

> breeding group is 11 yrs. old and most of his ewes are 9, 10 & 11.?We have

> three more ewes to lamb this year and will have 60 plus lambs.

> ??? We all want to take good care of our sheep and should do so, but it is

> my sincere hope that we will keep them the hardy, primitive breed they are

> meant to be and not kill them with kindness.

> ?

> Regards,

> Carl

>

> ?

> Carl and Judy Fosbrink

> www.4hornfarm.com

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: ARTHUR PARTRIDGE <aztreaz at earthlink.net>

> To: jacob-list <jacob-list at jacobsheep.com>

> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 10:46:14 PM

> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] bottle-fed lamb questions

>

> --Previous Message--

> >Why did you leave the ewe and her lambs in a jug for two weeks? If

> > there was a problem, that is a reason, but that is the reason for your

> > problem with the lamb. If left separated from the flock for too long the

> > flock will not accept the ewe or her lambs back into the flock without

> > re-establishing the pecking order, which involves a lot of head butting.

> =========

> My friend raises Icelandics and she leaves the ewe and her lambs in the jug

> for two weeks.? She also supplements the triplets; especially the lambs not

> getting enough to eat.? She says it helps the bonding of the ewe and lambs

> and, as I recall, to prevent injuries to the lambs when they are newborns.

> She has no problems with the ewes and lambs returning to the flock after

> two weeks.? I only have one jug set up, for emergencies, so I am not able

> to do this.? I put the ewe and lambs in the jug for a few days after birth

> or put a gate up in the barn and keep them there for a few days.? No

> problems doing it this way either.

>

> Cathy

> Moscow, Idaho

>

>

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