[Jacob-list] registration question

fourhornfarm fourhornfarm at verizon.net
Wed Mar 18 19:15:37 EDT 2009


Thanks for your input Neal.
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From: "Neal and Louise Grose" <nlgrose at yadtel.net>
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Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] registration question



>I am going to skip what JSBA has as policy and go right to heart of the

>previous question asked by Peggy. I think part of the reason that we do not

>see more outliers is that most experienced breeders do not send them in for

>registration. Perhaps we would rather cull them than get a reputation with

>substandard animals.

>

> "How do these things happen in an established line of Jacobs Sheep?"

>

> As much as we might like to ignore it, there is variation in these type

> traits and the sudden odd thing popping up is to be expected. This does

> not mean it is desirable, and I do not in the least question the

> inspectors if they fail such animals. Including them in the flockbook

> would increase the odds that we will have more non-standard sheep in the

> future, which would undermine the value of other animals in our flock.

>

> Extreme color percentage is more common as an out-lying trait, but I have

> seen wool forward of the horns as well. Of the two, wool forward of the

> horns is MORE LIKELY to be evidence of cross-breeding, but I would be a

> little skeptical of anyone that automatically regarded this as

> cross-breeding. Neither of these things is the result of a single gene

> that pops out showing the "polluting effect" after many generations.

>

> Excessive white or excessive color are the result of natural variations in

> the piebald expression. In a random sampling of animals without selection

> against the trait, the color range will expand and there will constantly

> be more and more out-liers.

>

> In my experience, selection for greater fineness of fleece and more wool

> quantity will eventually produce some individuals with "bangs". This may

> well shed off after the first year or so.

>

> It might be better to always evaluate our sheep only as mature animals.

> However, we need to remember that our goal with Jacobs is hard to achieve,

> because we are seeking to keep them average within a range. Unlike Merino

> where you can't get the wool too fine, or monster show Suffolks where you

> can't get the ******* too big, we have to select against both extremes.

> Percent color, horn set, wool fineness and weight, etc., all supposed to

> be kinda in the middle.

>

> Neal Grose

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "Heather Hettick" <hettick1 at yahoo.com>

> To: <jacob-list at jacobsheep.com>

> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:41 AM

> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] registration question

>

>

>>

>> I have really light ewe lamb I’m agonizing over this year. She otherwise

>> looks good with nice horns, overall Jacob confirmation and she’s a blue

>> eyed lilac. I doubt she has much over 10% color though.

>>

>> Doesn’t JSBA have an appendix registration or something like that for

>> ewes who don’t quite meet the standards or has that changed?

>>

>> Heather Hettick

>> Moonstruck Farm

>> Creston, OH

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