[Jacob-list] registration question
    fourhornfarm 
    fourhornfarm at verizon.net
       
    Wed Mar 18 19:15:37 EDT 2009
    
    
  
Thanks for your input Neal.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Neal and Louise Grose" <nlgrose at yadtel.net>
To: <jacob-list at jacobsheep.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] registration question
>I am going to skip what JSBA has as policy and go right to heart of the 
>previous question asked by Peggy. I think part of the reason that we do not 
>see more outliers is that most experienced breeders do not send them in for 
>registration. Perhaps we would rather cull them than get a reputation with 
>substandard animals.
>
> "How do these things happen in an established line of Jacobs Sheep?"
>
> As much as we might like to ignore it, there is variation in these type 
> traits and the sudden odd thing popping up is to be expected. This does 
> not mean it is desirable, and I do not in the least question the 
> inspectors if they fail such animals. Including them in the flockbook 
> would increase the odds that we will have more non-standard sheep in the 
> future, which would undermine the value of other animals in our flock.
>
> Extreme color percentage is more common as an out-lying trait, but I have 
> seen wool forward of the horns as well. Of the two, wool forward of the 
> horns is MORE LIKELY to be evidence of cross-breeding, but I would be a 
> little skeptical of anyone that automatically regarded this as 
> cross-breeding. Neither of these things is the result of a single gene 
> that pops out showing the "polluting effect" after many generations.
>
> Excessive white or excessive color are the result of natural variations in 
> the piebald expression. In a random sampling of animals without selection 
> against the trait, the color range will expand and there will constantly 
> be more and more out-liers.
>
> In my experience, selection for greater fineness of fleece and more wool 
> quantity will eventually produce some individuals with "bangs". This may 
> well shed off after the first year or so.
>
> It might be better to always evaluate our sheep only as mature animals. 
> However, we need to remember that our goal with Jacobs is hard to achieve, 
> because we are seeking to keep them average within a range. Unlike Merino 
> where you can't get the wool too fine, or monster show Suffolks where you 
> can't get the ******* too big, we have to select against both extremes. 
> Percent color, horn set, wool fineness and weight, etc., all supposed to 
> be kinda in the middle.
>
> Neal Grose
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Heather Hettick" <hettick1 at yahoo.com>
> To: <jacob-list at jacobsheep.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] registration question
>
>
>>
>> I have really light ewe lamb I’m agonizing over this year.  She otherwise 
>> looks good with nice horns, overall Jacob confirmation and she’s a blue 
>> eyed lilac.  I doubt she has much over 10% color though.
>>
>> Doesn’t JSBA have an appendix registration or something like that for 
>> ewes who don’t quite meet the standards or has that changed?
>>
>> Heather Hettick
>> Moonstruck Farm
>> Creston, OH
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