[Jacob-list] sheep update... still need some advise

Hannah hannah at knoxfarms.com
Fri Nov 28 16:39:12 EST 2008


Hello,


> Hannah,

>

> Someone on the list recommended contacting a vet, which is very advisable.

> Did you receive your Dex dosing from a vet?


*The three medications that we are working with are naxcell (antibiotic),
banamine (anti-inflamitory, rever reducer), and dexamethasone (steroid),
all of which are prescription medications. This lamb would not have
lasted this long had she not recieved immediate treatment. Further more,
I cannot afford a $300+ emergency Thanksgiving vet visit which is not
worth her weight in salt. I am taking this entire series of unfortunate
events as a learning experience - hopefully one in which she will survive.


>I wasn't sure if you

> administered than IV or IM (or SubQ) but, depending on the method of

> administration, the dosing seems rather low for a sheep that might way 100

> lbs.?


*This drug is administered IM. We use it whenever an animal must be
treated for extended periods of time. I found a dosage online for sheep,
but I also read that the dosage depends upon the symptoms that the animal
is presenting. The dose that we gave her is adequate for her weight and
symptoms.


> Meds are beneficial indeed but they do not offer full effects unless

> they are administered properly and in the correct dosing.


*No! Really?
LOL, no offense...


> Also, the mg/ml

> amount in your Dex will be a factor. Meds listed for other species often

> are not 'labeled' for sheep but are used by vets frequently. This is the

> case for Banamine, as well as a number of other drugs, including various

> dewormers like Ivomec and Dectomax. What dosing of Banamine are you using?


*1ml/50#


> One of the effects of Banamine on sheep tends to be that is really upsets

> the rumen, as some folks have mentioned to you already.


* I believe any mention of rumen inbalance was in reference to the
affects of antibiotics, but thanks for bringing this to my attention. I
didn't know that banamine would do it too. I actually forgot to give her
her probios yesterday. I think shes been eating some feed.


> It can be used for

> longer periods of time but again, vet supervision or consult is often

> recommended.

>

> I hope your sheep makes some progress soon!



*Thanks! She was out and about this morning. Her breathing is still
fast, but not as labored.

TTYL,

Hannah K


>

> This afternoon we gave her 1ml of

> dexamethasone.

>

>

>

>

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> -----Original Message-----

> From: Hannah <hannah at knoxfarms.com>

> To: wedohoney at sbcglobal.net

> Cc: jacob-list at jacobsheep.com

> Sent: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 10:18 pm

> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] sheep update... still need some advise

>

>

>

> Those are both great ideas. I am going to give her some IV fluids

> tomorrow morning. Hopefully that will give her a boost.

> I listened to her lungs. Her breathing sounds very labored and raspy.

> There is definately liquid in there. I know that she cannot go on

> breathing like this for many more days. This afternoon we gave her 1ml of

> dexamethasone.

>

> I check on my animals at least once a day and this was very sudden. Is

> that common? Did I just miss something?

>

>

>> don't know what happened while I was typing but anyway I was going to

>> say

>> my vet also suggested to use Banamine at 50% dosage for up to 10 days,

>> not

>> as a painkiller but as antiflammatory.

>>

>>

>>

>> Jack and Jaci

>>

>> --- On Wed, 11/26/08, JACI SIEHL <wedohoney at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>>

>> From: JACI SIEHL <wedohoney at sbcglobal.net>

>> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] sheep update... still need some advise

>> To: jacob-list at jacobsheep.com

>> Date: Wednesday, November 26, 2008, 5:40 PM

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> I suggest to add saline to the Nuflor 50/50. Nurflor is very thick and

>> takes a long time to inject and still seems to be a painful injection.

>> My

>> vet suggested the saline and it sure makes it easier.

>>

>> Also, my vet

>>

>>

>>

>> Jack and Jaci

>>

>> --- On Wed, 11/26/08, ARTHUR PARTRIDGE <aztreaz at earthlink.net> wrote:

>>

>> From: ARTHUR PARTRIDGE <aztreaz at earthlink.net>

>> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] sheep update... still need some advise

>> To: "jacob-list" <jacob-list at jacobsheep.com>

>> Date: Wednesday, November 26, 2008, 11:43 AM

>>

>>>*No. I am quite certain that she is suffering from pneumonia. I spoke

>>>with my friend this afternoon who told me that pneumonia causing

>>> bacteria

>>>in sheep in my area are resistant to pen-g. We started her on naxcell

>>>last night.

>> =======Nuflor is very good for that. It is specifically for respiratory

>> problems.

>> If I have a lamb will raspy breathing I give it a dose of Nuflor. I buy

>> it

>> at a vet clinic store. See the website for more info:

>> http://www.nuflor.com/nuflor_glance/faq.html. Unlike Pen-G, it doesn't

>> need storing in a

> refrigerator.

>>

>> Good luck,

>> Cathy

>> Moscow, Idaho

>>

>>

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