[Jacob-list] Registered vs. unregistered

[Linda]

Nicely put, Victoria

Linda
 
www.patchworkfibers.com
Registered Jacob Sheep, Angora Rabbits, Handspun Yarn


> We are going through this same argument on the

> Haflinger web about registered and unregistered.  I do not recall

> anyone on this list being rude????  I

> belong to several horse and carriage driving lists as well as this

> list and I guess I know there are always some people who state

> things directly and could be more diplomatic...but that is true of

> checkers at the grocery store too.

> What I always try to remember is that the people who are supporting

> registration are the ones who have done all the work on the web

> page, the member

> listings, etc. so that if people for example want to know more

> about the breed, you will have a web page to refer them to. I

> certainly appreciated there being a web page when I was just

> starting out!   This comes out of the money we pay for

> registration, plus we pay to have ourselves listed as farms.

> Without these

> people and those of us who pay registration, there would be no/or

> less information you could use to learn about and market the breed.

> IN Great Britian, as Juliet will tell you, they crossed their

> Jacobs and now the original registered Jacob is gone and it is only

> here in the United States that we have the "original" breed that

> came in the mid last century to America.  Most of us Jacob breeders

> are in it to help preserve an endangered breed instead of a more

> profitable breed and the only way to

> preserve a breed is to register them to assure they truly are the

> actual breed.  I hope in the future all those of you who love this

> breed will make the extra effort to register your animals and make

> sure the next generation of shepherds have the option of also

> having this endangered breed and join us in the information and

> marketing efforts.  The more involved, the better for the Jacobs ;-

> ).  Peace, Victoria

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>> 1. I agree with Sue's daughter (Gail)

>> 2. Mineral Feeder (Beryl Schwartz)

>> 3. Re: Guard Llamas for sheep (Beryl Schwartz) 4. Re: I agree

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>> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:00:14 -0600 (GMT-06:00) From: Gail

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>> I have to agree with Sue's daughter, in reference to how some of

>> the new comers are treated. I too don't post because of the nasty

>> comments I received, when I first joined this group. My Jacobs

>> are not

>> registered and someone made sure I understood that I wasn't in

>> their league, because of that fact. At the time we had a young,

>> but very handsome 4 horned ram. He was criticized for not having

>> enormous horns. He was a baby and still growing! Most of all,

>> though, was the attitude about my unregistered stock. There

>> aren't many people in our area that raise Jacobs and I don't know

>> of any that are registered. Even though some of us don't raise

>> registered stock, it doesn't mean that we aren't doing everything

>> we can to preserve the best qualities of the breed. I've

>> checked out most of your sites and my lambs look just as good as

>> your's. They just don't have the long fancy names attached!

>>

>> This is an amazing breed! They lamb easy & are great Moms,

>> relatively disease free, more compact & easy to handle and

>> beautiful to look at. What a package! It's no wonder so many of

>> us want to raise these sheep- - -  registered or not. Most of us

>> signed up for this group to learn, find answers to our

>> questions and maybe even find some sheep friends- - - mentors, if

>> you will.

>>

>> On a whole, I enjoy reading the posts and learn lots from all of

>> you. Just please don't belittle us

>> because our flocks aren't registered. They are just as important

>> to us, as your's are to you.

>>

>>

>> Gail

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>> www.loveormoneyexotics.com

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>> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:26:06 -0700

>> From: "Beryl Schwartz"

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>> Subject: [Jacob-list] Mineral Feeder

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>> Just like to tell you about the success that I've been having

>> with my new

>> mineral feeder.  I got tired of the girls knocking over and

>> dirtying up

>> their old feeder, so I took a chance on a Kane Creep Feeder, and

>> it works great!!

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> http://www.jefferslivestock.com/ssc/product.asp?CID=2

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>> Beryl Schwartz

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>> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:42:00 -0700

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>> Meg,

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>> I would love to see your article.  I have a guard llama as well

>> and he has

>> been a great help, especially when I heard them or when they are

>> moved from

>> one pasture to another.  It is amazing to see how much the sheep

>> trust him.

>> I have noticed that he doesn't bother friendly dogs, but makes

>> threatening movements towards barking ones.

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>> One question for you about llamas:  How do you worm them?  He was

>> last

>> wormed in May during shearing time and I'd like to not repeat the

>> experience.  I wonder if he could have a feed additive, like that

>> used for

>> goats and horses, as only he can get to his hanging bucket.

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>> Also, there is a book for children called "Harley" about a guard

>> llama.

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>> Beryl Schwartz

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>> Stockton, UT

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>> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 07:43:27 -0500

>> From: "R. Unzicker"

>> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] I agree with Sue's

>> daughter

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>> Hi Gail,

>> Thanks for sharing your experience.  It is yet

>> another reminder  that we all

>> need to be careful how we sound on the internet. It is so easy to

>> fire

>> something off,  then  reread it a day later and want to crawl in

>> a hole.  I

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> Victoria

> Castle Rock Farm

> Jacob Sheep & Nigerian Dwarf Goats

> www.castlerockfarm.net

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